Posted on 08/07/2003 8:27:02 PM PDT by AZ GRAMMY
Second arrest made in immigrant incident
BY LOUIE VILLALOBOS, Staff Writer Aug 7, 2003
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Yuma County sheriff's deputies have arrested a second man in connection with the alleged unlawful detention of six illegal immigrants on July 31 in Gadsden.
Alexander David Dumas, 26, was arrested Tuesday evening after driving to Yuma from his home in Big Bear Lake, Calif., for an interview, said sheriff's spokesman Lt. Eben Bratcher.
Dumas was charged with six counts of aggravated assault and five counts of unlawful imprisonment following the early morning July 31 incident where deputies said he and Matthew Paul Hoffman, arrested on the same charges on Monday, detained a group of six illegal immigrants that had just entered the United States through the Colorado River.
A third man, Martin Hoffman Jr., was with the two suspects but won't be charged because he was not armed and did not take part in the handcuffing of the illegal immigrants, Bratcher said.
Bratcher said the department will continue to investigate the case and warned citizens against taking the law into their own hands.
He said anyone who sees a group of suspected illegal immigrants should call the Border Patrol, and not take it upon themselves to apprehend the group by using guns and handcuffs. Asking a group to stay put while making a phone call is permitted and would constitute a citizen's arrest, he said.
"When you have someone holding someone against their will with the use or the threat of the use of force, you've crossed the line between a citizen's arrest and unlawful detention," he said. "There was no justification for the use of force."
Deputies said the two men handcuffed five members of the group, which included three children and two women, and held them at gunpoint until U.S. Border Patrol agents arrived.
Agents have said they were dispatched to the scene when a surveillance camera operator noticed the incident unfolding. The agents called the sheriff's department, who then identified and interviewed all three men before letting them go, officials said.
Bratcher said the men are not believed to be part of a larger group, such as the citizen patrol groups that operate on private property along the Tucson border and use various forms of technology to alert Border Patrol agents to the presence of illegal immigrants in the area.
Also being charged with five counts of endangerment is a 16-year-old Mexican national who Bratcher said was paid $600 to bring the illegal immigrants into the United States. Bratcher also said the illegal immigrants were planning to meet with a taxi cab in Gadsden and were to be taken to a unidentified Yuma hotel, according to interviews done of the illegal immigrants by detectives.
William Robbins, Border Patrol spokesman, said the six illegal immigrants were in the agency's custody as of Wednesday morning but couldn't be interviewed.
Hugo Oliva, Mexican consul in Yuma, said the group was in good condition following the incident and that his office is encouraged by the sheriff's department's efforts regarding this case.
"This is a very disturbing thing to happen here," Oliva said. "We can't have people with guns do the job of law enforcement agencies."
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Bound to happen. Boozed up weekend warriors do dumb things.
Groups are actively recruiting. I wonder what kind of hiring standards are upheld?
I get pretty tan in the summer...I'm not going south of Mission Viejo. ;)
And you just keep cheering on the marxist organization...
Never. You are a Liar.
277 posted on 08/08/2003 12:39 AM PDT by PRND21
As I mentioned earlier, the policies you support conincide with the policies of these organizations: La Raza, MechLa, Hermandad Nacional, Democrat Party, Socialist's Party, Trade Union, A.N.S.W.E.R. and Aztlan.com.
You and I have discussed the illegal alien situation before. As I recall you see nothing wrong with it. If that is in error, then say so.
#127 this thread, Spencer- felony arrest for gun charges the other day. When you're done go to google to find out how Simcox and pal got arrest on gun charges. Next, read how Ranch Rescue dudes pistol whipped some guys and got arrested. I'm sure there is more. Keep cheering, Hippo Cricket.
And yours coincides with the Nazi Party. I don't think you're a Nazi, but you are cheering on law breakers, which makes you a hypocrite.
You and I have discussed the illegal alien situation before. As I recall you see nothing wrong with it. If that is in error, then say so.
Completely false.
Give some citizens a few weeks training, one week of basic Spanish, and they will make excellent bounty hunters. Sure looks like the Border Patrol can use some help there.
As I mentioned earlier, the policies you support conincide with the policies of these organizations: La Raza, MechLa, Hermandad Nacional, Democrat Party, Socialist's Party, Trade Union, A.N.S.W.E.R. and Aztlan.com.
And yours coincides with the Nazi Party. I don't think you're a Nazi, but you are cheering on law breakers, which makes you a hypocrite.
You and I have discussed the illegal alien situation before. As I recall you see nothing wrong with it. If that is in error, then say so.
Completely false.
289 posted on 08/08/2003 12:59 AM PDT by PRND21
Oh I've been called Nazi by a number of socialist backers. This is nothing new to me.
Great, what policies do you endorse to stop illegal aliens from coming into our nation?
I firmly believe that the government does need to do more, but that doesn't change the illegal action this group took nor the menace that they can be to citizens who have every right to be on those trails. I didn't doubt they would end up in trouble either, but only because I was pretty sure it wouldn't take them long to step beyond their authority as a citizen and do something illegal and dangerous.
290 posted on 08/08/2003 1:00 AM PDT by CWOJackson (The World According to Garp isn't that bad when compared with The World According to Todd.)
I see both these situations being problematic, but I don't see much alternative at this time. Citizens have been literally begging for an end to this situation, but the federal government allows it to continue.
Have a good night.
Ten?! Jeez, I only knew of three. I missed some, post some links, please. And which ones were "not border-related"?
Me too.
Simply sh*tcan all the goodies California gives out and the problem is solved. Cause and effect means it's dumb to hunt the effect.
See #296 below. I've told you that before.
I didn't call you a Nazi, quit the melodramatics.
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