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Are Episcopalians Still a Church? A Lutheran theologian/journalist examines Robinson confirmation
Christianity Today ^ | 8/7/03 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 08/07/2003 5:49:25 PM PDT by rhema

The 2.1 million U.S. Episcopalians will have to ponder three urgent questions now that their General Convention in Minneapolis has approved the election of an openly homosexual cleric as next bishop of New Hampshire:

Will their tiny denomination (there are fewer Episcopalians now than convicts in jail) remain in communion with the rest of the world's 70 million Anglicans? Their chances are slim, given the warnings of the Most Rev. Peter Akinola, archbishop of Lagos and primate of Nigeria, who has of late become the world's most forceful Protestant voice.

How will the Minneapolis decision impinge on ecumenical relations with much larger partners, especially the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, to which Episcopalians are in a sense married by a treaty titled Called to Common Mission, or CCM? Great is the danger that it will accelerate the ELCA's expected implosion over the issue of—guess what?—homosexuality.

Is the Episcopal Church USA still a church in the historical and theological sense of the word? Since Minneapolis there are solid reasons to doubt that the ECUSA as a denomination can seriously make this claim (this does not mean, though, that its faithful dioceses and denominations, a minority, should be read out of the Body of Christ).

What is a church? The Greek word ek-klesia defines it clearly: "called out" (of the masses)— by God, not libido. "Church" is not an assembly of the elect chic with the right to decide which political, sexual or other preference, or any fad for that matter, may be considered holy.

"Church" is not an organization whose clerics—representing Christ at the altar—can declare their same-sex partnership "sacramental," as did the Rev. Canon V. Gene Robinson before his election to the New Hampshire bishopric was confirmed. Protestantism, Anglicanism included, affirms "two sacraments instituted by Christ our Lord in the Gospel-Baptism and the Lord's Supper," we read in article 25 of the Anglican Church's 39 Articles of Religion. Whims of concupiscence do definitely not fall under this rubric.

In article 19 of the same 16th century statement of faith we find these words: "The visible church of Christ is a congregation of believers in which the pure Word of God is preached and in which the sacraments are rightly administered according to Christ's command in all those matters that are necessary for proper administration."

"The pure word of God"—both in the Old and New Testaments—proscribes divorce and certain types of sexual activity. Before Monday's crucial vote, Robinson's supporters spoke much of being guided by "the Spirit." No doubt, they were. But whether it was the Holy Spirit is quite a different question. All sorts of religious fiends, especially those following the example if the 16th-century enthusiasts led by the blood-soaked Thomas Muentzer, claimed adherence to the free-blowing Third Person in the Trinity.

Since Episcopalians are ecumenically wedded with Lutherans—and actually imposed their form of ministerial oversight on them—please let's give Luther a voice here. He said that the only safe way to probe such a question is to test it against Scripture. Had the ECUSA's House of Bishops done so in Minneapolis, the Rev. Robinson would not be given a miter, but the sound advice to repent.

The selfishness and arrogance of the Minneapolis vote are astounding. It was a decision based purely on North American—and perhaps Western European—preoccupations with their bodily wants. Not only did the General Convention of the "Church of Good Taste" ignore the beliefs of fellow Anglicans in Africa, Asia and South America, about whose faithfulness U.S. prelates such as John Spong, the former bishop of Newark, N.J., snigger haughtily.

No, they also disregarded their Lutheran partners whose ministers are ordained on the "sola scriptura" principle, which holds that truth is revealed in Scripture alone. When Robinson is consecrated, a Lutheran bishop must also hold his hands over his head, according to CCM, even though it is still stated ELCA doctrine that homosexual behavior violates the will of God.

Doubtless, there will be a Lutheran bishop ready to comply. But when that happens, it will further unravel the ELCA, whose presiding bishop, Mark S. Hanson, is also the president of the Lutheran World Federation, most of whose member denominations are as opposed to the encroachment of secular and un-Biblical concerns as are African, Asian and Latin American Anglicans—and millions of their faithful brethren in the West as well.

The good news is that this is not a crisis of Christianity as a whole. Most fervent Christians know that worldly concerns and desires are never faith's launching pad. Christians are called to discipleship; they are not called to edit God's will according to their preferences.

As disciples, they will suffer like their incarnate God. For faithful Anglican congregations who feel they can no longer remain within the ECUSA an intense period of suffering is about to begin, which is why they need all the support they can get from like-minded people in other denominations. They will lose their sanctuaries—often very old ones—because the Episcopal Church will turn to secular courts, as it has done in such cases in the past, claiming some very valuable real estate.

That, too, violates Scripture, but who is quibbling now?

If you wish to be a clairvoyant, it's easy to look into the future. While orthodox Christians will worship in school auditoriums or the sanctuaries of other denominations at first, a form of Anglicanism increasingly disconnected from Scripture and tradition will celebrate itself with great splendor in ever-more empty churches and cathedrals.

There will be He-He and She-She couples in the pews and, heck, why not He-and-She-and-She or She-and-He-and-He, and Me-and-Me; all this is sacramental by new Episcopal standards, isn't it? So go bless the gin and tonic and pass it around with finger foods to the folks in front of this new religion's altars.

Pray, what would be a more fitting farewell party for a church in a tailspin?

Uwe Siemon-Netto is religion editor for United Press International.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amassingwealth; catholiclist; christophobes; episcofags; episcopal; episcopalian; fallout; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; lutheran; queer; religion
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To: realpatriot
Agghhh! You're kidding! No, probably not.

Where do we find out more about this?
21 posted on 08/07/2003 7:26:12 PM PDT by livius
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To: realpatriot
The Lutheran World Federation is so whacked out the mainline traditional Lutheran church in the US, the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, does not belong to it. The Wisconsin Synod doesn't either, I believe.

The LCMS doesn't belong to the world Council of Churches either. My pastor referred to it as a communist front group, not a council of churches.

22 posted on 08/07/2003 7:28:32 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: bonfire
Next will be "sacramental" same-sex marriage.
23 posted on 08/07/2003 7:33:08 PM PDT by FreeRep (Proud to be American: John 3:16)
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To: piasa
Thanks for the explanation.
24 posted on 08/07/2003 7:33:11 PM PDT by livius
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To: rhema
I knew the Epicopalians were "losing it" when they started ordaining priestesses.

They have become a side show in a way.

It was sickening to see Rev. Gene Robinson showing off his boyfriend.

Man, I hate to say it but the Episcopalians are a joke now.

25 posted on 08/07/2003 7:40:07 PM PDT by Tiger_eye
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To: rhema
What more can be said at this juncture?
26 posted on 08/07/2003 7:42:50 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Miss Marple
But what will the ECUSA do with dozens, perhaps hundreds of empty buildings and facilities? They will still need some maintenance and upkeep...a money pit in the making!
27 posted on 08/07/2003 7:45:19 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Green Knight
You are RIGHT and nicely done.
28 posted on 08/07/2003 7:45:31 PM PDT by nmh
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To: hellinahandcart
The handwriting has been on the wall for awhile with this denomination when they had the FIRST gay priest. I forget what year it was or his name but they were first. So having a gay bishop only goes to follow.
29 posted on 08/07/2003 7:47:21 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Tiger_eye
They are a church that just needs to go away. Robinson is nothing more than a twenty-first century walking Asherah pole.
30 posted on 08/07/2003 7:48:35 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (We're through being cool (you can say that again, Dad))
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To: realpatriot
Just to remind everyone again - the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod is one of the most conservative churches in America.

I can see them gaining members as refugees from the Episcopalians and ELCA start looking for a new church.
31 posted on 08/07/2003 7:50:11 PM PDT by horse_doc
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To: LiteKeeper; drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; nobdysfool; RnMomof7; Wrigley; Corin Stormhands
There will be He-He and She-She couples in the pews and, heck, why not He-and-She-and-She or She-and-He-and-He, and Me-and-Me; all this is sacramental by new Episcopal standards, isn't it? So go bless the gin and tonic and pass it around with finger foods to the folks in front of this new religion's altars.

Gin and tonic with fingerfoods.

I love it. Bump.

32 posted on 08/07/2003 7:52:33 PM PDT by xzins
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To: LibertarianLiz
What is a church? The Greek word ek-klesia defines it clearly: "called out" (of the masses)— by God, not libido. "Church" is not an assembly of the elect chic with the right to decide which political, sexual or other preference, or any fad for that matter, may be considered holy.

In the Bible, the word ek-klesia (eklaseeya) always means a called out group of people. The letters of the New Testament (most if not all) were written to local, visible assemblies of believers; each making their own choices and governing themselves. So where does this idea of a universal (invisible and all encompassing) church come from? How can we say that this supposed universal church is on this earth since it is impossible to assemble all the saints together, until the time of the return of Christ? I can understand using the word church in an institutional sense (the same way I can talk about the "American family"). Such usage in no way should be construed that there is a big universal church with some earthly Dad residing over it - but instead, I understand talking about the "American family" is a way to talk in general terms.

Just something to think about.

And btw - I've been praying that all the saved would leave the Episcopalian organization and that it would fall, as an example on this earth to all those who would mock God and detest His Holy Word.
33 posted on 08/07/2003 7:54:18 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: LiteKeeper
Au contraire. Either they will fill the pews with leftists and hold political meetings disguised as worship services, or they will sell some of the buldings off for a tidy sum. Many Episcopal churches sit in downtown areas, since they were one of the first denominations in the colonies. They owon very valuable real estate.

In addition, it isn't just the buildings. They possess endowments, antiques, art, and investment accounts.

34 posted on 08/07/2003 8:12:36 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: rhema
Before Monday's crucial vote, Robinson's supporters spoke much of being guided by "the Spirit." No doubt, they were. But whether it was the Holy Spirit is quite a different question.

Ya think?

35 posted on 08/07/2003 8:20:38 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: TaxRelief
It's exciting to find that there are so many faithful people allied against the dark tide sweeping toward us. It's depressing and annoying to find that there's nothing available for would-worshippers in the Washington, D.C. area!
37 posted on 08/07/2003 8:26:29 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: rhema; WVNan
I admit, I was raised an Episcopalian. After the news of the gay unions and gay bishop...This is probably the last day I will admit to being one.
38 posted on 08/07/2003 8:28:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
I can you see the vision of Sodom and Ghomorra present day. I got to tell you, prepare, for the end is near. How can God let this go on much longer. THE CHURCHES ARE ACTUALLY CALLING HOLY, HOMOSEXUALITY!! What is next, clones?
39 posted on 08/07/2003 8:49:58 PM PDT by John.Cooch
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To: John.Cooch
I can you see = I can see
40 posted on 08/07/2003 8:50:38 PM PDT by John.Cooch
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