ArnoldGovernor.net (correct thread)

ArnoldGovernor.net (elephantparty.com - temporary) ^ | 8/6/2003 | Jagrmeister

[jagrmeister]

CALLING ALL Arnold Schwarzenegger Supporters:

I am announcing the creation of ArnoldGovernor.net . I have reserved the domain, but the site is up right now at a temporary URL which can be seen here (www.elephantparty.com). I am a Californian and a conservative - and I can say with certainty that Arnold represents the best chance we have of claiming California's governorship. I am posting this site for your review.

First, the others in the race. Bill Simon and Tom McClintock are both fine men, but they have lost important statewide races in the past. Simon lost a race against Davis last year which should have been a cakewalk given Davis' record. Most political analysts agree that Simon ran one of the worst campaigns in recent memory. McClintock is a virtual unknown statewide (let's not get fooled by our own echo chamber). The KEY to remember is that we have

Only 2 months (8 weeks) until Election Day. There is NO time to run someone who Californians have rejected in the past or a virtual unknown. For those who have leaned towards either of them, I'm appealing to your sense of reason to get behind someone with the best shot of winning. Now, why should we elect Arnold?

Arnold is a fiscal conservative but moderate otherwise. His stance on abortion will matter less than you might think- that's a matter for Supreme Court justices which the California governor has no say about. He is pro-business, pro-entrepreneurship, and tough on crime (witness his Proposition 49 which aims to reduce juvenille crime - a major, largely unaddressed component of crime). He is an "American by choice" and is very patriotic. People look at him and think "It's okay to be a Republican". With Schwarzenegger pulling a Total Recall on Grey Davis, Bush may actually find that California is friendly territory in 2004.

I am looking for pro-Arnold supporters to help:

1. Pitching Arnold's candidacy

2. Graphics design- create compelling visuals that are pro-Arnold or anti-Davis

3. Anyone else that wants to be pinged for pro-Arnold events.

4. Coming up with good one liners, spin, updates, opposition research, etc.

Let's team up! Thanks!!

Once I get your suggestions, I will update the site and in a few days, it will be at ArnoldGovernor.net . Thanks all Freepers for your help.

[cibco]

"Reagan wasn't always a democrat. Hubert Humphrey's position on many things, would be to the right of president Bush, if HH were alive today.

Change and growth take time. Arnold is the man of the hour. I wish him well."

You nailed it...

[SoCal_Republican]

You make a point there and don't even know it, rock. Arnold's dad was an evil Nazi, and when he died he did not want to go and see him? Well of course! If my pop was an evil Nazi and then croaked when I was involved in making something of my life despite his evil ways, I don't think I'd want to go see him either!

[cibco]

"McClintock is the Alan Keyes of this race."

You nailed it and I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Keyes.

[jagrmeister]

Thanks for bumping my thread. The term "RINO" is best applied to purists who want to lose a race to Democrats by failing to support the clear frontrunner- Arnold Schwarzenegger. They call themselves Republicans but do the devil's bidding (Democrats's bidding) by supporting lost causes.

[luckystarmom]

Are you going to vote for Arnold? I think Arnold has a great chance. I could see a lot of Bay Area repubs and dems voting for him. The teachers at my kids public school were so sick of Gray Davis last year. I'm wondering who'll they'll vote for: Arnold or Bustamante.

It's gonna be an interesting few months.

[Long Cut]

The term "RINO" is the most overused one on FR, and has thus lost all meaning. It is slung about like the snot from a drunkard's nose, for even the slightest of deviations from the "ideal" conservative line.

When someone uses it, It is best to simply "smile and wave, while backing up slowly..."

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I don't live in Saratoga now, I live in Michigan.

My entire family lives in California, from the Bay Area down to Palm Springs. They are all voting for Arnold and are very excited to be getting rid of Davis. If I was in California, I would happily vote for Arnold. I spent some time with him and some other men who were campagning for Poppy Bush in 92. He's a good man and he will do a great job. He will have the best of the best helping him once he gets into office.

[Ramius]

It is slung about like the snot from a drunkard's nose

Say... I rather like that... :-)

[rolling_stone]

I'll tell you which Democrat I WON'T vote for, and that Democrat is Ah-nold.

I don't think you will be voting for anyone in California unless you move here quickly...

[jagrmeister]

Fair point- the term RINO needs to be used less (and with more accuracy), not more. It's become virtually meaningless.

[jagrmeister]

Yeah, so Arnold's an uber-liberal because his dad was a Nazi? Give us a break. This kind of psychoanalysis doesn't take us anywhere. Arnold will be California's next Governor because he is the GOP's best shot of re-emerging in the union's most populous state.

[jagrmeister]

I don't know- are you referencing an Arnold bumper sticker you saw? What did it look like? I was thinking of creating bumper stickers but I'm guessing the official campaign might beat me to it, so why duplicate.

[jagrmeister]

Sorry Field. It's a done deal. Arnold WILL be the next Governor of California. The CA GOP has to resemble the NY GOP if we want to be competitive here. Those who want more conservative results can't just "will it to be" on election day...they have to do the harder work of changing hearts and minds of ordinary Californians between elections.

[rockfish59]

Jeez, talk about missing the point!

GOP? Yeah, right!

[rockfish59]

The past doesn't matter. He's a RINO and that's what counts!

[EternalVigilance]

A "real" conservative will never, ever, be elected again in California. I don't like it much either but that's the way it is.

Defeatist.

Why don't you just go crawl in a hole and die.

You'd be doing the republic a favor.

[EternalVigilance]

What I said to the other defeatist applies equally to you.

[EternalVigilance]

You have no qualms about voting for someone who supports the abortion industry and has no regard for the Second Amendment.

But hey, he IS a celebrity. Guess that makes it alright.

It's people like you that are the problem with this country.

[EternalVigilance]

Your 'reasons' for voting for Schwarzenegger are lame.

There is plenty of time to educate your neighbors about Tom McClintock---the only guy out there who actually has a reality-based plan for working the state out of the morass created by liberals such as Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Fight, lady. Don't just be a dupe.

[EternalVigilance]

You misunderstand the dynamics of a race like this.

Turning out your voters is the key here, and no one is better equiped to do it then conservatives, if they will quit being defeatist idiots and get off their *sses and do it.