FOX NEWS: Rev. Gene Robinson Confirmed As Episcopal Church Bishop

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[Brian S]

Rev. Gene Robinson Confirmed As Episcopal Church Bishop

[Conservative_Rob]

"Oh, blah, blah, blah."

Thank you for making my point

God be with you and yours

[The_Reader_David]

Not quite. The Latin church is quite happy to let Orthodox Christians receive communion. We do not, as we regard communion as a sign of sharing the same faith (as indeed do the Latins). The Latins erroneously teach that our faith is identical to theirs.

Incidentally, the Orthodox Church will be quite happy to welcome those fleeing the Anglican apostacy. A lot of us are here already. (My bishop offended a lot of Episcopalians a few years back by thanking Nashotah House for sending our Archdiocese (the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of North America) so many fine priests.)

It is an awful shame about Anglicanism, though. Maybe someday we can have a set of eight tones based on R.V. Williams and Healy Willan's compositions. We're already working on rescuing prayer in Early Modern English: just read the English translation of The Lituricon my bishop (Bp. BASIL (Essy)) prepared or The Psalter and The Great Horologion as translated by the monks of Holy Transfiguration Monastery.

[B-Chan]

...the Roman Church excludes anyone who cannot prove their baptism in the Roman Church from taking communion.

Not so. First, the Roman Catholic Church accepts as valid all Christian baptisms (even those conducted by non-Christians or atheists!) as long as such baptisms are valid in matter (water) and form (trinitarian) and are done with the intention of doing what the Church does via baptism. As a teenager, I myself was baptized by an Assemblies of God minister, but when my wife and I were reconciled to the Catholic Church our parish priest accepted my baptism as valid. No proof was required; my word of honor alone that it had occurred as described above sufficed.

Second: Only Catholic Christians who are in a state of grace (i.e. those who have been absolved of mortal sin through the Sacrament of Reconciliation*) may sinlessly receive the Body and Blood of our Lord at Communion. Those who come to the altar rail while bearing the stain of mortal sin are unworthy of the Body and Blood of the Lord and are thus guilty of sacrelige if they receive Him; it therefore follows that, since non-Catholics cannot receive absolution via confession and penance, almost all* non-Catholics would be spiritually unworthy of that singular honor.

* Some Christians (Catholic, Protestant, and otherwise) may be absolved of mortal sin by the Holy Spirit via an act of perfect contrition -- but these people are rightly called saints. Such truly holy people are few and far between; therefore, as guardians of the Holy Mysteries of the Eucharist, Catholic priests are obligated to deny Communion to all who have not been absolved of sin through the Sacrament of Reconciliation. In any case, the burden of proof lies with the communicant; priets are under no obligation to ascertain the worthiness of any individual worshiper.

[reg45]

Say BYE BYE to the Episcopal Church,

hello to the Eswishcopal church!

[Aarchaeus]

They gain thousands of new gay members and lose what few God fearing members they have left.

And lead all their new members straight into Hell.

[Irene Adler]

"I wonder what Bishop Stanton (my Bishop) is going to do now. If he goes, I go."

Bishop Stanton was "Father Jim" in my Episcopal parish for four years before he became a Bishop. He is a wonderful man, and I, too, and wondering what he will do. Myself, I left the Episcopal church some years ago because I saw the handwriting on the wall. I would become a Catholic but have a Mo. Synod Lutheran-raised husband so can't really do that. Am without a church right now. Sad.

[reg45]

so go kiss a redneck for Jesus.

Only if the redneck is a she!

[B-Chan]

Tagline: "Catholic.Monarchist.Texan. Any questions?"

Yeah. How's the weahter in Austin?

Dunno. I live in Tarrant County, up by Fort Worth!

[PFKEY]

Thanks for the explaination.

I have learned a great deal about the Catholic faith from many members of FR.

However, I am one who hold only the Bible as the word of God and believe that it is sufficient. I do not subscribe to any other doctrines or dogma.

[Aarchaeus]

I'll say it again: THIS IS ONE BISHOP WHO I DON'T WANT LAYING HANDS ON ME! (At least not without washing them first!)

He couldn't wash them clean enough to suit me.

[B-Chan]

I appreciate your concerns. Please rest assured that my intent is not to win “converts”, but to offer an alternative for those Episcopalians who feel abandoned and alone. I apologize for any offense given.

Please note, however, that I'm not evangelizing anyone. Anglicans are Christians and already know the Good News. One cannot evangelize one's fellow Christians.

[Arkinsaw]

I don't believe you have a right to characterize my decision as based on "staying in familiar company."

You will stay Episcopalian after this decision. Will you stay after the abortion decision? How about after "rethinking" the divinity of Christ? I'm just curious where your line will be drawn?

When you put money in the offering plate you are paying for salary and upkeep of the hierarchy that just voted that the Bible doesn't say what it says. Its a free country so you can do that as opposed to forming a new Church that doesn't do that, but I am free to comment on it also.

[B-Chan]

Please note that my statement that “non-Catholics cannot receive absolution via confession and penance“ is in error. Orthodox / Byzantine confession and absolution is wholly effecacious and valid for the remission of all sins, mortal and venial. My apologies for the mistake.

[RobbyS]

It means that the pope doesn't make things up.

[Aarchaeus]

This man is so greedy he will watch the church destroyed for his own gratification

I'm sure he's just following orders. That's just what his master wants.

[Arkinsaw]

Am without a church right now.

You are only without a church building right now. You are not without a Church.

[RobbyS]

Think our diocese will say anything about what is going on? It could point out that there is an Anglican use parish. Is that yours?

[egomeimihi]

I understand your position. I was raised in the Assemblies of God denomination, and unswervingly believed in Sola Scriptura. If someone had told me twelve years ago that I'd eventually be prepared to enter the Roman Catholic Church, I would not have believed them.

[B-Chan]

Yes. We are members of an Anglican Use parish -- St. Mary the Virgin Catholic Parish in Arlington, Texas.