FOX NEWS: Rev. Gene Robinson Confirmed As Episcopal Church Bishop

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[Brian S]

Rev. Gene Robinson Confirmed As Episcopal Church Bishop

[k omalley]

Their justification is that the church must change with the times. Scripture must be interpreted in light of the time it was written in. Since it is now culturally acceptable to be gay, so goes the church. What a joke!

[jwalsh07]

The only hope (?) is if the conservative Episcopalians split (starting in October?) and the ELCA mis-leaders get scared that their budget will go down the drain when our conservatives split as well. I almost surely will be part of any such exodus, and I won't be quiet about it.

My daughter married an Episcoplian. He has spoken with his pastor in Northern Georgia to tell him that his family could no longer attend the Episcopal Church should this fellow become a bishop.

His pastor told him that leaving that church would not be necessary because they would split from the US Episcopal Church.

That made Grandpa, that's me, a happy guy.

[Diddle E. Squat]

but what justification in scripture do they find to accept homosexuality?

My guess is that those doing the 'justification' don't believe in the bible, or rather believe that it was written by man and thus contains errors. I am not kidding about that, you be amazed at how many mainstream denomination leaders will state that. Or perhaps they are of the branch that believes the bible to be a loose-leaf document....

[Rennes Templar]

How about Episcogaylymans?

[Argus]

As an admirer of the Book of Common Prayer and other traditional Anglican usages, I thank you for those links. it's a possible alternative for orthodox Catholics who are in despair over the liberal rot in the American RC church, too.

[jwalsh07]

Their justification is that the church must change with the times. Scripture must be interpreted in light of the time it was written in. Since it is now culturally acceptable to be gay, so goes the church. What a joke!

They would make excellent federal judges.

[Barnacle]

Ping

[Mfkmmof4]

Change with the times.....how silly.

That is why Jesus died on the cross ... he would not change with the times.

[Rennes Templar]

Or Episcogaylymen.

[Fifth Business]

At least I'm not a member of this "church", hell, they're not even christian anymore

Some are, some aren't. Don't be simple.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

I think that is great that you have found such a great Church home.......

[AppyPappy]

That's the problem. They can't split. The denomination owns the church building and the cemetary.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

How central? We were just in State College two weekends ago at PSU - our daughter is doing the college search........

[Diddle E. Squat]

Joe Episcopoaleans?

[colorado tanker]

At the time the Bible was written, lifestyles and civilization were different. In the ;ast 100 years or so, beliefs and civilization in general have changed. Homosexuality has become mainstream and acceptable. There was plenty more, but that is the crux of it.

To me, that is the crux of the entire debate. Is our faith defined by Biblical teaching or is our faith defined by modern culture, which the left claims is more enlightened or evolved than the "old" faith and values. This isn't just about homosexuality, but the very heart of the faith, because the same people who say the Bible can be ignored if it contradicts modern teaching also often believe (if you can get them to admit it) that Jesus is not the son of God but was just a really good guy we can learn a lot from.

[jwalsh07]

That's the problem. They can't split. The denomination owns the church building and the cemetary.

Yeah, I'm aware of the financial entaglements. So was the pastor.

We'll have to wait and see.

[N3WBI3]

While no doubt it is better to worship with just you wife whom God has given to you than in a house of sinners whos ears itch to hear they are good might it not be good to try and seek out a church community where Gods work is supreme?

I dont tie myself to a denomination, I attended a Naz church for a long time but recently I moved and found a Baptist church where sin is not tolerated because its suddenly popular..

[jwalsh07]

The same justification is used to kill the unborn. There is a special place in hell for one Father Drinan of my Roman Catholic Church.

[NYer]

The only real difference between the Anglican and Roman Churches is that Anglicans believe marriage is for mutual joy instead of procreation and the priests can marry.

How wrong you are.

The Roman Catholic Church does NOT approve the ordination of "active" homosexuals to the priesthood. The church has consistently taught that homosexuality is a disordered state. ALL catholic priests must abide by a vow of celibacy. Those homosexuals who infiltrated the church did so through concealment of their SSAD.

"In recent years, various questions relating to homosexuality have been addressed with some frequency by Pope John Paul II and by the relevant Dicasteries of the Holy See.1 Homosexuality is a troubling moral and social phenomenon, even in those countries where it does not present significant legal issues. It gives rise to greater concern in those countries that have granted — or intend to grant — legal recognition to homosexual unions, which may include the possibility of adopting children. The present Considerations do not contain new doctrinal elements; they seek rather to reiterate the essential points on this question and provide arguments drawn from reason which could be used by Bishops in preparing more specific interventions, appropriate to the different situations throughout the world, aimed at protecting and promoting the dignity of marriage, the foundation of the family, and the stability of society, of which this institution is a constitutive element. The present Considerations are also intended to give direction to Catholic politicians by indicating the approaches to proposed legislation in this area which would be consistent with Christian conscience.2 Since this question relates to the natural moral law, the arguments that follow are addressed not only to those who believe in Christ, but to all persons committed to promoting and defending the common good of society."

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS