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Like a Cloud, Economic Woes Follow Bus Tour
The New York Times ^ | August 4, 2003 | ELISABETH BUMILLER

Posted on 08/04/2003 12:33:05 PM PDT by Willie Green

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CRAWFORD, Tex. - President Bush slipped speedily into vacation mode this past weekend at his furnace of a ranch in Central Texas, where he spent Sunday fishing, clearing cedar and going for a walk with the first lady and his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. But before the president ducked out of public sight, he made sure to address one of the biggest re-election anxieties of Karl Rove, his chief political adviser: the nation's continuing loss of jobs and the uncertainty about the economy.

"This week, three members of my cabinet — Treasury Secretary John Snow, Commerce Secretary Don Evans and Labor Secretary Elaine Chao — visited business owners and their workers in the Midwest," Mr. Bush said in his weekly radio address on Saturday. "They received reports that the economy is picking up."

Well, yes and no.

Anyone on the trip, which was a very un-Air Force One-like, two-day, six-city bus journey across Wisconsin and Minnesota (Ms. Chao dined on Tuesday night at Burger King), could see that the cabinet members charged with promoting the president's tax cuts also heard a lot of anger from workers about foreign competition and laid-off relatives and friends.

"Right now I am very disillusioned with the Republicans' policies," said Michael Retzer, a Republican and a consultant to a supplier for Harley-Davidson. Mr. Retzer told Mr. Snow at a Harley plant near Milwaukee that he did not see how the tax cuts would stimulate the economy when so many consumers would spend the extra money on goods made overseas.

Later, in the kind of confrontation with a disgruntled citizen almost never seen on the president's trips, Mr. Snow tangled with an unemployed software programmer at the drive-through at Culver's Frozen Custard and ButterBurgers in Wausau, Wis.

"He said, `But your tax cuts haven't done anything for me,' " Mr. Snow recounted the next day to reporters, as the bus traveled through Minnesota. "And I said, `Well, now, let's just take a second and talk about that.' "

Here in McLennan County, Tex. — which includes the nearby city of Waco, the one-stoplight town of Crawford and the president's 1,600-acre ranch — the number of people unable to find work jumped to more than 6,000 in June 2003 from more than 4,000 in June 2000, according to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics.

"That's pretty much a general slowdown that mirrors the rest of the country," said Cheryl Abbot, an economist at the agency's Southwest Regional Office in Dallas.

Although the McLennan County unemployment rate jumped from 4 percent in June 2000 to 5.7 percent in June 2003, it was still lower than the national unemployment rate in June of 6.4 percent. But the jobless rate for Texas that month was 7.5 percent, and more than 800,000 people in the state could not find work, up from 527,000 people in June 2000.

An unscientific series of interviews with Crawford businesspeople and churchgoers Sunday revealed plenty of support for Mr. Bush, whose presidency has brought a surge of tourists to the once-shuttered main street but uneasiness about the economy and nervousness about his policies.

"You look at the tax breaks he's cut for everybody and I wonder how he's able to do that," said John Dutschmann, 32, a sales manager for a concrete products company who had just attended services at Crawford's First Baptist Church. Mr. Dutschmann, a Democrat who supported Mr. Bush in 2000, said he was still behind the president, although he had trepidations about the economy. "We just put our trust in him, and we hope he knows what he's doing," he said.

Paul Stripling, 67, a Republican and executive director emeritus of the Waco Baptist Association, who had also attended services at the First Baptist Church, said that Waco had not felt the economic crunch as much as other parts of Texas and that Mr. Bush "is doing the best he can with a very precarious situation."

Brent Duncan, 40, a hotel owner who was talking with other parishioners after services at Crawford's United Methodist Church, said that his business was doing well — he is building a hotel in the nearby town of McGregor — and that he would probably vote for Mr. Bush in 2004. But Mr. Duncan, who described himself as a conservative Democrat, said that his support was not guaranteed.

"Let's see who the Democrats put out," he said.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Mr. Bush has little on his public schedule this week, although Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld is to make an appearance Friday.

But next week, as part of a monthlong campaign to try to convince voters that sunnier economic days are just around the corner, Mr. Bush will meet at the ranch with his economic team, then take his economic message around the country in day trips from Crawford. His tone will be upbeat, which was evidently the tenor of the report he heard from his cabinet secretaries after the Midwest bus trip last week.

As Mr. Snow put it, "I'm going to go back and tell the president, `Mr. President, I ran into a lot of people who asked me personally to express my gratitude to you for worrying and thinking about us.' "

Mr. Snow did not say if he would mention the man in the drive-through at Culver's.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economicteam; globalism; johnsnow; recession; thebusheconomy
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To: My2Cents
Why should we believe anything written in the NY Times?

Why should we believe anything Dubya says on the issue?

Backdrop Hides `Made in China' Labels
Was the Photo-Op, (Made in China) Cover Up Involving Bush Intentional?

21 posted on 08/04/2003 1:06:06 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Texas_Dawg agrees with Kofi Anan and George Bush that American Trade Policy should subvert domestic prosperity for the greater benefit of the rest of the world.

No, Willie, Texas_Dawg probably agrees that trade policies should not be established with the premise that our dumbest, stupidest, most incapable and incompetent workers (presumably including yourself) should not be propped up at the expense of the rest of us who work hard and don't whine and demand continued handouts at every possible moment. get a clue or buy a new mop - there are many stalls that need cleaning & appears you still have the prerequisite free time so you're still the right man for the job! ROFLMAO

22 posted on 08/04/2003 1:06:46 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Willie Green
Texas_Dawg agrees with Kofi Anan and George Bush that American Trade Policy should subvert domestic prosperity for the greater benefit of the rest of the world.

No, Willie, Texas_Dawg probably agrees that trade policies should not be established with the premise that our dumbest, stupidest, most incapable and incompetent workers (presumably including yourself) should not be propped up at the expense of the rest of us who work hard and don't whine and demand continued handouts at every possible moment. get a clue or buy a new mop - there are many stalls that need cleaning & appears you still have the prerequisite free time so you're still the right man for the job! ROFLMAO

23 posted on 08/04/2003 1:06:49 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Texas_Dawg
Just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living?
24 posted on 08/04/2003 1:07:45 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Texas_Dawg
HA! We saw this on C-Span Friday night (the Mr and me). This guy was NOT a republican, he had to be a plant, and I don't even believe in the parties using plants. He was too well rehearsed in his lines "I've always been a Republican but..." it was so contrived and phony.
25 posted on 08/04/2003 1:11:03 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: Cacophonous
I work in finance. Institutional equity sales, to be specific.
26 posted on 08/04/2003 1:11:51 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Willie Green
I have no use for kneejerk anti-Bush rants. Hope you knock yourself out beating your head against the wall.
27 posted on 08/04/2003 1:13:17 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Steven W.; Willie Green
No, Willie, Texas_Dawg probably agrees that trade policies should not be established with the premise that our dumbest, stupidest, most incapable and incompetent workers (presumably including yourself) should not be propped up at the expense of the rest of us who work hard and don't whine and demand continued handouts at every possible moment. get a clue or buy a new mop - there are many stalls that need cleaning & appears you still have the prerequisite free time so you're still the right man for the job!

A-men, brutha. Willie just likes to throw out little paleo buzzwords and call people Communisses and what not... but he's one of the biggest fans of federal government intervention to protect his incompetency that I've ever seen. He makes the welfare pimps look like Milton Friedman.

28 posted on 08/04/2003 1:13:52 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Texas_Dawg
Thanks.
29 posted on 08/04/2003 1:15:13 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Texas_Dawg
He makes the welfare pimps look like Milton Friedman.

I promote employment in America's private sector, not Dubya's Treasury bankrupting expansion of Medicare benefits.

30 posted on 08/04/2003 1:17:54 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: My2Cents
I have no use for kneejerk anti-Bush rants. Hope you knock yourself out beating your head against the wall.

Fair enough. I have no use for mindless bushbot cheerleaders. Don't wear out your kneepads.

31 posted on 08/04/2003 1:20:26 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
I promote employment in America's private sector, not Dubya's Treasury bankrupting expansion of Medicare benefits.

"Gibber jabber gibber gibber jabber!!"

Willie Green Alert.


32 posted on 08/04/2003 1:22:22 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Willie Green
I promote employment in America's private sector, not Dubya's Treasury bankrupting expansion of Medicare benefits.

Guess what, Willie -- those Medicare prescription drug benefits are specifically intended to remove a bunch of retirees from the insurance plans of major U.S. corporations like General Motors. To make them more competitive with companies like Toyota, Honda, and Volkswagen.

You can't have it both ways.

33 posted on 08/04/2003 1:30:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
No they're not. They are specifically designed for the GOP to suck up to yet another constituency that will never vote for them anyway, another example of the GOP eating its own brain.

If there is one single retiree that removes himself from his corporate insurance plan, I will be shocked.

34 posted on 08/04/2003 1:34:32 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Texas_Dawg
This is interesting -

"Right now I am very disillusioned with the Republicans' policies," said Michael Retzer, a Republican and a consultant to a supplier for Harley-Davidson. Mr. Retzer told Mr. Snow at a Harley plant near Milwaukee that he did not see how the tax cuts would stimulate the economy when so many consumers would spend the extra money on goods made overseas.

Perhaps Michael "Republican" Retzer missed this announcement?

Milwaukee, WI - (MCNW) Harley-Davidson, Inc. announced record revenue and earnings for its second quarter ended June 29, 2003. Revenue for the quarter was $1.22 billion compared with $1.00 billion in the year-ago quarter, a 21.8 percent increase. Second quarter diluted earnings per share (EPS) were 66 cents, a 40.4 percent increase compared with last year’s 47 cents.
"We are pleased with our strong results for 2003 as we head into the second half of the year," said Jeffrey L. Bleustein, chairman and chief executive officer of Harley-Davidson, Inc. "Our US dealer network sold more motorcycles in this quarter than in any other quarter in our 100-year history. Retail sales grew more than 14 percent compared with last year and outpaced our wholesale shipments by over 11,000 units," added Bleustein.

http://www.americanmotor.com/news.cfm?newsid=2231


No left wing media bias here --- move along.
35 posted on 08/04/2003 1:35:33 PM PDT by GhostOfAtwater
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To: Cacophonous
They are specifically designed for the GOP to suck up to yet another constituency that will never vote for them anyway, another example of the GOP eating its own brain.

In case you didn't know this -- despite all predictions to the contrary, Bush actually got more votes in Florida among senior citizens than Gore did.

If there is one single retiree that removes himself from his corporate insurance plan, I will be shocked.

Maybe not tomorrow, but with this Medicare coverage in place these corporations will have no problem scaling back on the quality of their insurance plans. Trust me on this one -- these retirees are eventually going to be removed from these insurance plans.

36 posted on 08/04/2003 1:38:15 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Make America more "competitive" through socialized medicine?

What a pile of neocon horse-pucky.

37 posted on 08/04/2003 1:39:40 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Make America more "competitive" through socialized medicine?

If General Motors spends $1,000 per person per year on its prescription drug plan for retirees, and Uncle Sam comes along and takes them off the rolls for $800 apiece, you can bet that America becomes more "competitive."

One thing is for certain -- no company in America is going to be competitive if it is providing retirees with better benefits than it gives its current employees.

38 posted on 08/04/2003 1:42:44 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe not tomorrow, but with this Medicare coverage in place these corporations will have no problem scaling back on the quality of their insurance plans. Trust me on this one -- these retirees are eventually going to be removed from these insurance plans.

...and put on the public dole. And people that call themselves conservatives support this?

I sure can't wait until we get the GOP, the party of small government, back in power. I'm getting tired of all these democrat party social programs.

39 posted on 08/04/2003 1:43:47 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Alberta's Child
If General Motors spends $1,000 per person per year on its prescription drug plan for retirees, and Uncle Sam comes along and takes them off the rolls for $800 apiece, you can bet that America becomes more "competitive."

Are you serious? You think Uncle can do ANYTHING better and less expensively than the private sector?

40 posted on 08/04/2003 1:45:25 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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