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Rush Compares Bush to Nixon [actual title: Bush '04 Strategy More Nixon Than Reagan]
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | July 30, 2003 | Derek Taylor

Posted on 07/30/2003 5:18:48 PM PDT by derekftaylor

Edited on 07/30/2003 5:57:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Actual text of Rush's article:


1:15 PM ET BEGIN TRANSCRIPT:

Consider this story by Steven E. Schier in The Hill magazine, "President Bush - A Radical With a Plan." Quote: "President Bush has had a rough summer, beset by a troublesome military occupation of Iraq, growing budget deficits and media challenges to his credibility." Get that: "media challenges." That's horse manure. These are not just "media." They may as well be elected Democrats. That's who's challenging Bush. They're one and the same.

More: "Lately, the White House has fought back hard in response to its Democratic critics. Why such an aggressive approach? The Bush presidency has a huge project at its heart, one now suddenly threatened by adverse events. The White House forcefulness towards its critics reflects the unusually large scale of Bush’s presidential ambitions. Bush’s goal is a big one — to make the Republicans the natural, default party of government." Where have we heard this before? I guess this is this guy's version of The BIG Theory. "Karl Rove, the president’s chief political strategist, frequently mentions durable GOP dominance as a major goal of the Bush presidency. Bush seeks lasting conservative rule over American politics, completion of the rightward revolution begun by Ronald Reagan.

"The Bush administration is working steadily to create conservative dominance over political institutions, party and interest group alignments and the terms of policy debate. In the terms of Yale University political scientist Stephen Skowronek, Bush is an 'orthodox innovator' trying to adapt the Reagan approach for the 21st century. As James K. Polk restored the Democratic Party in the 1840s and Teddy Roosevelt reinvigorated the GOP at the turn of the 20th century, so Bush hopes to create a new Republican political coalition than can dominate national politics long after he leaves the White House.

"The risk for such orthodox-innovators, according to Skowronek, is that their innovations split their coalitions and end their party’s dominance, as Roosevelt’s progressivism divided the GOP in 1912. So far, Bush has avoided that fate. Instead, his strategy, described to me by a White House official as 'base-plus,' seems to be working. The GOP base loves Bush, though his hold on centrist voters remains uncertain. If his proposed tax cuts stimulate the economy in time for the 2004 election and international events do not turn against the White House, Bush’s long-term strategy will have an improved chance of succeeding.

"The worst news of the summer for Bush concerns the budget deficit, now likely to exceed $450 billion next year. His GOP base may well fracture in the long-term over the problem of large and persistent budget deficits resulting from his tax cuts."
The base concerned about the deficit? Dream on! The base isn't going to care a rat's hair about it. "Deficits pose three political difficulties for his project. First, large deficits over time will produce increasing disunity among Congressional Republicans. Complaints about this year’s deficit are already issuing from GOP ranks on Capitol Hill. Second, deficits hand Democrats a national issue with which to put the GOP on the defensive.

"Bush’s own father — an orthodox innovator who failed — found both Bill Clinton and Ross Perot effectively hammering him on the issue in 1992. Third, high deficits endanger other central policy goals of the administration, such as an increased defense buildup and Social Security privatization. The Bush administration promises tight spending control to reduce deficits. Its first two years in office do not seem to guarantee future discipline. Federal spending in 2001 and 2002 grew more than it did during Clinton’s first four years in office.

"And if such discipline is attempted, how will swing voters react to cuts in popular programs? Building a dominant conservative coalition for the long term is a task beset with practical political difficulties. This is an administration bent on huge changes in American politics and public policy and willing to take big risks to achieve them. Right now, they’re fighting hard to retain the political initiative behind this big project, facing some of the biggest political challenges of Bush’s presidency. Whether or not they succeed, the Bush presidency promises to enter the history books as one of the most politically ambitious of all time – because of its efforts to reshape the entire political landscape."



The author here, Steven Schier is Congdon Professor of Political Science at Carleton College in Northfield, Minnesota. He's editor of a forthcoming book on the early presidency of George W. Bush. In essence, this is his version of the BIG Theory in which the president and his advisors are basically counting on the fact that the base will be their support no matter what, and they're going out there advancing a domestic agenda designed to attract Democrat liberal moderate centrist pinko voters to expand to the Republican base, make it so big that there's no longer a viable Democratic Party. So let me try to deal with this the most delicate way that I can.

I have pointed out every fact raised in this piece to one degree or another, over the course of the past three or four months, every fact raised in this piece. The problem with this piece is its conclusion, I think, which I just shared with you. This base plus approach is nothing new. Everybody tries this. Reagan reached out to the blue-collar and religious Democrats back in the '80s. I mean, that's where the phrase "Reagan Democrats" comes from. And as I've said repeatedly, he did so without stiffing his base time and time again. Back in the '80s, nobody who voted for Reagan was upset with what he was doing on the domestic agenda. I'll telling you, folks, nobody was. Yet the Reagan Democrats loved this guy.

The electoral strategic model that is being followed by the Bush operatives is not Reaganesque. Here comes the biggie...it's Nixonesque. Wait a minute, folks. Just hang on. I don't say that with any intent to diminish either Nixon or Bush. This is an analytical fact. Remember, just as Reagan won two landslides, Nixon won one as well - a huge one in 1972. Now, let's look at this. Richard Nixon, like Bush, embraced, I think, too much of the left's domestic agenda in an effort to attract support beyond his own base. Look at what Nixon did. He created the Environmental Protection Agency, he created OSHA, he created revenue sharing - which is the kind now touted by Hillary Clinton for the so-called homeland security purposes.

Nixon was the first president to put real teeth in the affirmative action laws, in case you're too young to know or have forgotten. It was Nixon who imposed wage and price controls when unemployment was at 3%, and Nixon, Nixon relied on the weakness and the public aversion of his opponent, George McGovern, to win his landslide. You'd be hard-pressed to argue that it was any kind of political revolution from a philosophical governing viewpoint. I mean, Nixon made a beeline for the things that McGovern voters liked on the domestic side. McGovern was a pure anti-war candidate, anti-Vietnam. I know some of you are going to be scratching your heads or worse, but it's a mistake to say that what Bush is doing is Reaganesque. There are far more similarities to Nixon.

Nixon would have signed a campaign finance reform bill. Reagan wouldn't have. Nixon would have signed any major expansion of Medicare. Reagan would have vetoed that before it got to the White House. Nixon tried to blur some of the principle distinctions between conservatism and liberalism, but Reagan never blurred the difference. He always referred to limited government and repeatedly spoke of it. He challenged liberal thought and policy on virtually every front. If there's a model that's being adopted - and I think the Bushes are being somewhat original and unique here with what Rove is doing, at least in how they're executing it - it's more Nixonian. Bush told the Urban League "[W]e need active government." Those words never would have crossed Reagan's lips. They would have crossed the lips of Nixon easily. When I heard that line I thought, "Who wrote this speech? Bill Kristol?" So we're looking at similarities, but not to Reagan.

In addition here to establishing, I think, very conclusively and almost inarguably that the Bush pattern here of "base plus," or the new theory that Bush more closely replicates what Nixon did certainly more than what Reagan did, let's deal more with foreign policy and national security, shall we? The comparison to Reagan and the Reagan Revolution does work. It's one area where I will agree with Schier's piece.

Both Bush and Reagan rejected the common wisdom and they've set their undiverted sites on destroying the enemy. In Bush's case, terrorism and Al-Qaeda. In Reagan's view, the evil empire. Reagan toppled the Soviet Union by rejecting containment and appeasement. Bush has terrorists all over the world on the run by doing the exact same thing. Both Reagan and Bush have been denounced by the mainstream media - and even by members of their own party. That's because Reagan was, and because Bush is, a visionary when it comes to the national security of his country. That's the similarity. If you want the similarity between Bush and Reagan, look at foreign policy. If you want the similarity between Bush and somebody else on the domestic side, regardless of what you think of it, you will find a far closer alignment with Richard Nixon in his 1972 campaign and its governance after his landslide victory in 1972....

Furthermore, what is the Nixon legacy? "Great foreign policy president," right? It certainly is. He opened the door to China and all that sort of stuff. What do you think Bush is angling for here? He's got the base plus, the BIG Theory. But the things that Bush is doing that will end up in history books are indeed Nixonian: foreign policy and wiping out of the terrorism.

(1:40 PM EST END TRANSCRIPT)

(1:57 PM EST BEGIN TRANSCRIPT)

Mr. Snerdley desperately tried to make the case that Bush is more like Reagan on the BIG Theory than Nixon, but you can't make that case - other than tax cuts. That's really the closest you can get. A final example is that, during Wednesday's show, President Bush made remarks at the White House celebrating the 38th anniversary of Medicare. Nixon would have done that; I don't know that Reagan did, although he might have been forced to. If Reagan did do it, he didn't want to.

2:00 PM EST END FINAL TRANSCRIPT


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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Rush has casual, non-political listeners?

Casual, non-political, I mean people who listen to be entertained, or to listen to the parodies, or want to become politcally aware but aren't the political junkies of FR.

There are still millions of people out there who when they hear Nixon, they say to themselves Watergate.

But Rush's thesis of the "big theory" has already been discredited. Political times are different and there were different issues than there are now, but Nixon didn't lower taxes etc.etc..

JMO, trying to compare Bush to Nixon, is a poison pill(the stigma of Watergate).

One could say that Reagan followed the Nixon model. He compromised on issues with democrats(such as a tax increase in 82), when the times got tough in Lebanon, he pulled out, etc.etc..

61 posted on 07/30/2003 7:34:49 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Southack
No, you can easily make the case that Bush is more of a SOCIAL conservative than Reagan. But Reagan was the free-market, pro-growth, anti-Keynesian. He was a one-man think-tank on political philosophy issues and his fiscal policy was heavily influenced by Hayek and Smith. W is a good and decent human being and a strong leader, but he unfortunately has a problem saying no to spending. Government has grown more rapidly under Bush than under any of the recent modern presidents. He has never vetoed a spending bill, and does not in his heart believe, as did Reagan, that you cannot tax and spend your way to a better society.
63 posted on 07/30/2003 7:36:42 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: Dane
Well Dane, it seems GWB is the right man for the issues you care deeply about.
Vote for him, and support him, by all means.
On the issues I care deeply about, GWB is either pointedly ignoring, or actively in support of a course I do not want nor approve.
Thank God Bush was POTUS on 91101!
I did vote for him,in Florida, but it was more a reflexive self defense vote against Gore.
Anyone but Gore was needed.
That does not mean I think GWB "deserves" to advance his NWO, open borders,CFR,larger Federal government,playact as a semi conservative and blow sunshine up my posterior for fun agenda, with my name as a supporter.
I am very proud to have had GWB as the POTUS in the hardest times this country has endured for decades.He is, without doubt IMHO, the right man for the times he was forced to lead us through.
I thank him, and will be forever gratefull for his leadership.
Not much time remains for a leader to emerge who I feel confident to take us to the next step.I may have to vote for GWB again.
It would be an error on your part, and upon all the rabid partisans to think I am happy about the lack of real choices for leadership that my right to vote affords me.
64 posted on 07/30/2003 7:43:24 PM PDT by sarasmom (Hey France...tick tick to.. (I am the new oracle..See Afghanistan and Iraq in my resume))
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To: nyconse
Well, I can understand why Rush is on Bush's butt. He did the classic thing: in the primaries he ran to the right and now he is governing to the left of x42. HIV is his big issue these days? Wassup?
65 posted on 07/30/2003 7:44:51 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Southack
History books will view him very favorably, mark my words. Have you read any history books lately from our public schools? The last Republican to be treated favorably in a public school history book was Lincoln!
66 posted on 07/30/2003 7:44:56 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: austinTparty
"W is a good and decent human being and a strong leader, but he unfortunately has a problem saying no to spending. Government has grown more rapidly under Bush than under any of the recent modern presidents. He has never vetoed a spending bill, and does not in his heart believe, as did Reagan, that you cannot tax and spend your way to a better society."

Actually, you'd be hard-pressed to substantiate that point.

Reagan was a great President, but he probably had the largest budget deficits in history at that time.

67 posted on 07/30/2003 7:45:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Dane
One could say that Reagan followed the Nixon model. He compromised on issues with democrats(such as a tax increase in 82), when the times got tough in Lebanon, he pulled out, etc.etc..

Yeah, obviously Reagan compromised many times before the infamous tax cut rollback championed by Dole, probably for foreign policy and military buildup reasons (which is classic in Presidential politics -- give to Congress where Congress has the upper hand [spending and domestic policy] and take where you have the upper hand [military and foreign matters].

In many ways, Bush and Reagan are playing from the same playbook on that score. Bush is getting his way on foreign and military policy, and the Democrats (or even Congress as a whole) is not playing any significant role in those areas whatsoever. And he is compromising significantly with Congress on domestic and spending policy.

A lot is being muddled by the ridiculous early start of Presidential politics where it looks like the RATS are coming off the reservation -- but 8 months ago, before the Presidential politics were in swing, he had the RATS completely cowed on the Iraq war vote.

But a pretty good case could be made that Bush and Reagan aren't that far apart in grand governing strategy...given the generational differences from the span of 20 years between one Presidency and the other. (Reagan had a better culture to work with...more conservative, more WWII, than the post-war, 60's generation that Bush must govern to).

68 posted on 07/30/2003 7:45:58 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Dane
Rush isn't even trying to hide his hate for the Bush. His priorities are: his talk show, gulf, his ideology, cigars, football, his country, his listeners, whatever party he belongs to, if any.... Rush is being hired by ESPN so that he can be fired, a la Keyes, Savage..... I'm disappointed with him.
69 posted on 07/30/2003 7:48:34 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort
"for the Bush" can be changed to "for the Bush Presidents".
70 posted on 07/30/2003 7:49:53 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Southack
Not difficult to substantiate. To begin with, Reagan had a Dem Congress, W has a Republican one. I don't have the figures offhand, but should it be necessary, I can dig them up at a later date: in terms of percentage growth in government, W far outstrips the other presidents. Reagan may have had deficits, but look at what he inherited from Carter; he slashed tax rates and set the stage for the economic growth into the nineties. The surplus would not have been possible without Reagan's policies.

A deficit is no indication of the SIZE of government. Spending is.

71 posted on 07/30/2003 7:50:50 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: sarasmom
It would be an error on your part, and upon all the rabid partisans to think I am happy about the lack of real choices for leadership that my right to vote affords me

I really can understand that, but that is the nature of the system.

One needs 270 electoral votes to win and coalitions have to be built.

I have never said that Bush was perfect, neither was Reagan, but they are whole lot better, IMO, than the other alternative that has a chance to win and that is the demos.

72 posted on 07/30/2003 7:54:04 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Pharmboy
He is attempting to establish a lasting Republican majority. Plenty of conservatives don't like medicare and some other policies, but the majority of voters do-according to polls. It is better for Bush to introduce a Republican plan-then lose an election-and let the Democrats have the plan they really want. The plan will eventually (backloaded) lead to privatization-if Bush is re-elected, and he helps get more Republicans elected to the Senate. I think President Bush is a political genius. We need to give him a chance.
73 posted on 07/30/2003 7:55:52 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: austinTparty
Reagan had a Dem Congress,

Actually Reagan had a Pubbie Senate for 6 years and there was more breathing space than the 51-49 Senate Bush has now. Also Daschle ran the Senate for a year and a half in the Bush administration.

74 posted on 07/30/2003 7:59:25 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
I have never bashed Nixon in my entire life.
But for Richard Nixon, my oldest brother would have been drafted to serve in the Vietnam War.
He would have served, and he might have wound up as a statistic in a war the Feds decided in advance not to fight to win.
Whenever I hear people deride Nixon,I remember how I prayed God to bless him, for not sending my brother to fight a war the politicians in the USA had already decided not to win.
Some people will remember Watergate.I will remember that my brother lived, although several of the older boys in my neighborhood did not, and those who did, were never the same, and the bitterness they felt was not for having fought in war, it was for not being allowed to win.

75 posted on 07/30/2003 7:59:36 PM PDT by sarasmom (Hey France...tick tick to.. (I am the new oracle..See Afghanistan and Iraq in my resume))
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To: Consort
Rush is a lot smarter then you think.
76 posted on 07/30/2003 8:05:12 PM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: OneVike
" We must keep Bush'e feet to the fire lest he forgets who brought him to the prom."

I think it's Rush's feet that should have been held to the fire. If someone had told me a few years ago, that Rush would be calling President Bush-"George W. Clinton", on NBC Nightly News,in a bit with Lisa Meyers,I would never have believed it. Rush's schtick on GW has gotten so old. Rush has developed a sneaky habit of only partially quoting the President or taking his comments out of context. He's become the angry,bitter person the libs have always accused him of being. His shows used to be positive and uplifting and LOL funny.Rush has become a curmudgeon. I will write a check to FR for 100,next fall,if my prediction is wrong. The audience for the pre game show will probably be 50/50 Dems and Reps.Would you watch a pre game show with Carville or Begala or McAuliffe ? I wouldn't.Not unless they reformed their ways and maybe not even then. That same dynamic will be at work with Rush.
77 posted on 07/30/2003 8:10:51 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: sarasmom
That was a powerful post.
78 posted on 07/30/2003 8:11:36 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Dane
See my #75.
I liked Richard Nixon.
I loathed Carter to the point of courting a stint in Leavenworth for making my opinion of him known to fellow military members.
I sometimes think I was allowed to continue on active duty by "radical" command elements.
After the presidential demise of Carter, Ronald Reaagan was like air to one drowning, or water to one who had wandered for years in the desert.
GWB could have been a Reagan, but he decided to to be a Nixon.
We will all know next year who called him correctly.
But all of us can be thankfull for the good he has done for the USA.

79 posted on 07/30/2003 8:16:07 PM PDT by sarasmom (Hey France...tick tick to.. (I am the new oracle..See Afghanistan and Iraq in my resume))
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The Bush administration is working steadily to create conservative dominance over political institutions, party and interest group alignments and the terms of policy debate.

Could have fooled me.

But, I'll probably still vote for him, in the absence of any superior options. My feeling is that despite his domestic policy flaws, Bush is as conservative a politician as we are likely to see in the Presidency for the next thirty years.

I am in total agreement. Will I work for Bush's re-election campaign? No I won't. Will I vote for him? Probably.

80 posted on 07/30/2003 8:18:46 PM PDT by c-b 1
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