Friend of Bryant's accuser says he saw 'visible evidence'

USA TODAY ^ | 7/22/03 | AP

[kattracks]

EAGLE, Colo. (AP)

[estarwitch]

I agree. This psycho slut just got her 5 minutes of fame.

[Evil Inc]

Those "facts" may serve to raise doubts about the victim, but,, and its a J-Lo sized but, it doesnt prove anything about rape. All could be true and Kobe could have raped her. Right or wrong? Now DNA and visible evidence(bruises)and whatever else convinced the prosecutor, plus Kobe lied, lied, lied as evidence came in,,,I feel I'm on solid ground thinking she was raped. Doesnt Kobes moving truth raise doubts in your mind about his credibility?

[USNA74]

On Hannity's radio show yesterday there was a "Larry from Los Angeles" who was put on the air. Hannity admitted this was a false name and false location to protect his identity. The man called attention to a motion that's been filed in a Colorado court to unseal formerly public records. He claimed the records were public until the Kobe Bryant accusation hit. He claims to have heard directly from a close high school friend of the alleged rape victim that the alleged rape victim has made two prior rape allegations and the public records of these are what's being sealed.

Did anyone else hear this gent and has anyone heard any more about this particular story? This gent was very slow, careful and circumspect with his answers to Sean and sounded quite believable. Apparently some weekly paper in the Eagle, CO area has picked up on the story and this gent called Sean's attention to it to back up his claim about the formerly public records. Bottom line was that he suggested that while this alleged rape victim has friends that have backed up her character, there's another group of folks who knew her well that would not vouch for her character.

Hannity said he was going to look into the story. Has anyone heard any more about this?

By the way, before anyone flames me, beyond the admitted adultery, I'm neutral on this one until I hear the evidence.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

But I'm sure many on this thread will have another ready-made explanation to discount this.

To be fair there are explanations that might address the suppositions you are making regarding bruises. In the end all that will matter is whether or not a jury believes that all of Bryant's explanations are plausible. Personally, I don't yet have a feel for who to believe here. I am surprised at those who are willing to viciously attack one side or the other based on such sketchy evidence.

[aristeides]

Larry from Los Angeles, eh? I wonder how he knew all this stuff. He wouldn't, by any chance, be connected to Bryant's defense?

[BushCountry]

We don't know what the facts are except that she is a bad actor (nutjob). Wait a minute, we don't really know this. All we have is some people who claim to be friends of hers saying something, not under oath and boom the rape charge is a false allegation. In her defense there are several friends that say she would not make it up either.

Here is what has been hinted over the past few days about the allegations leading to his guilt. Don't forget that Kobe is moving heaven and earth to keep the evidence secret. And I asked you Kobe worshippers, "WHY?" Also, he wants the evidence sealed but is using his slimball lawyers and detectives to slander this women. If you think this information is coming out randomly than you are a fool.

1. She was physically battered, bruises defensive wounds. The prosecution is expected to present some physical evidence that will make us squirm.
2. She ran immediately down from his room upset and crying and told hotel employees she was raped.
3. Hotel security came to his room because someone called complaining of a loud ruckus.
4. The hotel room was in disarray.
5. She had torn clothing and it appears buttons were ripped off her clothes inside the hotel room. The crime lab said there was plenty of evidence recovered at the scene of the crime.
6. The 19-year-old woman who accused Kobe Bryant of sexually assaulting her had "visible evidence" of the alleged attack a week later.
7. Were the body guards in the room? Who knows, but the DA was considering false imprisonment charges.

Last but not least, my favorite response to you guys that love this rapist thug. I can not work up the energy to feel sorry for him. Even if he didn't rape her, he is a major league idiot.

1. He had unprotected sex with a stranger he just met. He did this in front of his three body guards. Everything that I read, states that the bodyguards were in the room when room service was called. In fact, room service was for the four of them. They all had to give police statements. They followed him in a cab to the hospital and acted very strange according to the cabbie.

2. He possibly exposed his wife to several STDs or maybe even a death sentence through AIDS. For all he knew about her, she could have been a hooker in some large city servicing every man in a twenty block area, then returned to her home town to recuperate.

3. He exposed the girl to a possible pregency. This is all the world needs, is another forgotten and uncare for bastard child. His primary thought was that if he was unlucky maybe he could throw a few dollars at it (the baby) to make it go away.

4. He gambled his future earnings, just getting caught in the act of infidelity and tarnishing his reputation without the rape allegation could cost him millions of dollars.

5. He drags his wife out to face public ridicule and humiliation during his strange press conference declaring his adultry. He is a major class jerk just for this alone.

Actually the list goes on... But, just so you know where I stand, I have a slight feeling that he did rape her, but no proof (his conduct in the cab leaving the hospital, torn clothing and his crying statement on TV rings false).

[NittanyLion]

I agree with your statements. I don't have the slightest idea what happened, but if I had to guess I'd say she consented initially and then tried to stop Bryant at some point (who knows?). However, I'm amazed at the folks attacking the victim here and disregarding the possibility Bryant could be guilty.

[jimt]

There is a special place in hell for the Kobe apologists attackers dragging the girls his name thru the mud without any verification of story or checking the reliability of those statements.

I think the point is that none of us really know what happened.

[AppyPappy]

I don't understand. Is it legal to rape a woman who has a reputation for being a "nut"?

[AppyPappy]

I'd say she consented initially

What's your basis for this belief?

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Is it legal to rape a woman who has a reputation for being a "nut"?

No, but it's tougher for a woman who has a reputation for being a "nut" to prove her case.

[jimt]

Maybe she bruised her OWN arms...

If we went on the basis of bruises I could have had my wife in jail years ago - never mind that she didn't cause any of them. The reverse is true also.

IF this young lady had impure motivations, it's certainly possible for her to have bruised herself.

[AppyPappy]

but it's tougher for a woman who has a reputation for being a "nut" to prove her case.

So all that is necessary is to allege the woman is a "nut" and a rapist goes free. The old "nuts and sluts" defense that served Clinton so well.

[TomB]

By the way, before anyone flames me, beyond the admitted adultery, I'm neutral on this one until I hear the evidence.

Very well put (for a squid). ;-)

The problem I see with all this idle speculation is that people begin to get way too much emotional capital invested in this story, and when the truth comes out, they find it hard to accept it.

The best example of this is still the Rosenbergs, there are people who have so much emotional attachment to the case that they refuse to believe all the evidence against them. Another one would be the Danielle van Dam/David Westerfield case.

[AppyPappy]

IF this young lady had impure motivations, it's certainly possible for her to have bruised herself.

And raped herself with Kobe's sperm. It could happen you know.

[NittanyLion]

What's your basis for this belief?

I don't have a basis - just a guess.

[Evil Inc]

So whats your point? We dont know what happened so its ok for Kobes lawyers to attack her credibility outside the trial? Its ok for Kobe to repress the facts while attacking her? I wish it was all sealed until the trial, but as Kobes lawyers prefer to try it in the media he is fair game for people to attack his credibility. Unless you can show where the victim has gone public, its all Kobes own doing that has this buzz going, as he wants.

[TomB]

And raped herself with Kobe's sperm. It could happen you know.

Before I ask this, just to let you know, I think Bryant is guilty. But that is only my opinion.

That said, do you believe that women are incapable of falsely accuing men of rape?

[jimt]

And raped herself with Kobe's sperm. It could happen you know.

Seeing as Byant acknowledged having sex with her, that's a rather nonsensical comment.

You seem to have more knowledge than all the rest of us here. Or perhaps you have it on good authority that no one ever files a false rape accusation?

That's as silly as saying no "superstar" athlete ever raped a girl.

The one thing we do know is we don't know enough.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

So all that is necessary is to allege the woman is a "nut" and a rapist goes free.

No, but if there is credible evidence that she has behaved irrationally in the past (i.e. attempted to commit suicide, made other false accusations, etc.) that makes it all the more difficult for her to prove her case. Sorry, but that's life. Unfortunately there are "nuts" in the world who make false accusations. (I'm NOT saying that is the case here.)