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The TRUE Capitol Hill Blue story the PRESS IGNORED:'Dems plan to undermine America to beat Bush'
FR - thru Capitol Hill Blue ^ | January 6, 2003 | DOUG THOMPSON

Posted on 07/11/2003 6:02:31 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Dems plan to undermine America to beat Bush
CapitolHillBlue ^ | January 6, 2003 | By DOUG THOMPSON

Posted on 01/28/2003 2:07 AM EST by JohnHuang2

Democrats plan to undermine public confidence in President George W. Bush by challenging his credibility and raising doubts about America, sources within the party tell Capitol Hill Blue.

A multi-pronged attack against Republicans and the President will focus not only on economic issues, but question American values, raise doubts about how this country is viewed by other nations and question the patriotism of Bush and his party.

The extensive campaign, developed by senior Democratic consultants and party leaders, was launched last week with attacks on the Bush economic plan by Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Richard Gephardt.

In coming weeks, Democratic elected officials will question the President’s intentions on the pending war with Iraq. Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism. “The talking points were developed before the end of last year and sent out to operatives and friendly media,” one Democratic consultant confided. “No Democratic member of Congress will question the President’s patriotism openly but we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts.”

Capitol Hill Blue obtained a copy of the talking points when the Democratic National Committee sent them to a news outlet recently acquired by CHB’s parent company. The talking points outline a strategy to raise public doubts of the President’s real intentions, including: --Saying the war is about oil and will be fought to benefit oil companies that have long supported Bush and the Republican party;

--Claiming the Bush administration has “manufactured” evidence against Saddam Hussein and used that evidence to encourage Britain and other allies to join the American fight against Iraq;

--Suggesting a wartime economy is the only way the administration can revive the country’s lagging economic situation.

“It is clear that the current approval ratings of the administration are tied directly to strong American feelings toward traditional values,” the talking points say. “To counter this, doubt must be raised as to America’s true position within the world community and the true intent of the Bush administration in waging war.”

Some Democrats admit privately they are uneasy with the party strategy to undermine American values in an attempt to get Bush.

“My boss doesn’t want anything to do with it,” one senior Senate aide told Capitol Hill Blue on Monday. “You don’t undermine this country to win elections.” Others, however, are willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control. “The real war isn’t in Iraq,” one Democratic consultant said. “It’s right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004.”

Among the other points Democrats hope to make in the coming weeks:

--Both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are controlled by oil and defense industry special interest groups.

--The war on terrorism is a failure because Osama bin Laden is still at large.

--America is unprepared for another terrorist attack because of White House preoccupation with Iraq. --War will increase the country’s economic woes. --Bush will be forced to raise taxes to finance the war.

“It’s time to take the battle to the people and make them understand just how dangerous George W. Bush’s policies are to the future of America,” the talking points conclude.

Democratic sources say the talking points were developed by Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, Senate Majority Leader Daschle and former House Democratic Leader Gephardt.

“This is a classic, Jim Carville, scorched earth campaign,” crows one DNC staffer. “Take no prisoners. That’s how you win elections.” Democratic party spokesmen would not return phone calls seeking comment on this report.

© Copyright 2003 Capitol Hill Blue



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To: Pan_Yans Wife
And if he thinks Hillary will let him beat Bush, he is delusional."

The hildebeast is running in 2004 if this attack and others like it begin to weaken this Presidency. The liberals want the next appointments to the SCOTUS. They also cannot take a chance that the economy and the stock market is booming in 2008. Remember that most of the liberal agenda has been achieved through the courts, instead of legislation. They know that they will never get what they really want unless they have the courts! The Constitution means nothing to them except when they need it to protect them!! We are in a battle for the soul of our nation and I am in the same camp as norms revenge.

201 posted on 07/11/2003 6:37:47 PM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
My pleasure. You know how difficult it's been getting the good news out through the media filter. Thank you for keeping track of the war news - and for the pings!
202 posted on 07/11/2003 6:39:50 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (We're in a global war on terrorism..If you want to call that a quagmire, do it. I don't.*Rummy* 6-30)
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To: Peach
Thanks for the posts, Peach. It seems:

1)The press-Dems not only forgot the 'reams and reams and reams' of documented evidence re. Iraq, they forgot the whole point of their profession: to inform. Did you know they have a "code of ethics"?

Or

2)They know and don't care. This means they are willing to risk the death of hundreds of thousands to WMDs in the hands of serious nutcase brainwashed hate-filled anti-Western losers for partisan power.

One more for the record:

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677';

30 posted on 07/11/2003 9:28 PM EDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)


203 posted on 07/11/2003 6:51:10 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (We're in a global war on terrorism..If you want to call that a quagmire, do it. I don't.*Rummy* 6-30)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Bring it on.

The posse addresses Hillary:

http://www.terpsboy.com/archives/000931.html


204 posted on 07/11/2003 7:00:00 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (We're in a global war on terrorism..If you want to call that a quagmire, do it. I don't.*Rummy* 6-30)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Although I thought Ann Coulter was a little overboard claiming that Democrats hate America and don't care about national security, I am starting to see her point!
205 posted on 07/11/2003 7:10:28 PM PDT by Peach
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To: IA5GWH
FYI
206 posted on 07/11/2003 7:16:46 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Well behaved women seldom make history)
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To: Peach
The pursuit of power at any cost will lead folks to do stupid things without thinking about the consequences .. or caring.

My hat is off to Ann, she gets "it". :-)

207 posted on 07/11/2003 7:16:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Support FRee Republic ..... http://www.DRAFTTOM.com ..... Semper Fi)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Listen to them talk---'scorched earth';....ooooooh..........

....they're vulnerable on so many things, I'm sure we've got more fuel in the old flamethrower than they do............

208 posted on 07/11/2003 7:25:15 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
BOBTHENAILER:
Please explain the similarities to your Bush/Cheney==Hallibuton comparison to the ones listed by Liz, especially the Daschle/Linda the lobbyist for airlines.

NMC EXP:
I respectfully decline your request. The reason being that Liz's attempt to make this democrat only issue notwithstanding, the original article was non partisan.

The issue is non partisan. THe republicans are every bit as guilty as the democrats. I say a pox on both.

I suggest you remove your blinders.

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And now your rebuttal of my assertion that this issue taints both parties is:

Thanks for supporting the DNC talking points.

That was a lame attempt.

Try this: How about George Shultz and Bechtel?

For the the rest of my buds here, the war is on and it ain't gonna be pretty. Let's get ready to annihilate these specious arguments.

You certainly called for a lot of help in your ping list. Not up to annihilating specious arguments while standing on your own hind legs without backup, huh?

Regards

J.R.

209 posted on 07/11/2003 7:26:48 PM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: Peach
Although I thought Ann Coulter was a little overboard claiming that Democrats hate America

They do. They really, really do.

210 posted on 07/11/2003 7:30:20 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: Peach
Try talking to your local Clinton loving campus Marxist next time you get a chance.......it will be revealing.
211 posted on 07/11/2003 7:32:37 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
raise doubts about how this country is viewed by other nations

Since when was this ever a measure of how well your government is serving you?........France doesn't like us, and neither does Kofi. So what.

212 posted on 07/11/2003 7:37:00 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"The extensive campaign, developed by senior Democratic consultants...."

Come on! We all know where this is comming from if it is their real plan.

It's comming straight from that red nosed, philandering, immoral, never worked a day in his life, draft dodging, over weight, out of shape, worthless piece of shit of a former president by the name of Bill Clinton.

He is the only person who would be willing to throw the whole country into chaos, if he could, to try to rehabilitate his sorry ass in the eyes of the public.

213 posted on 07/11/2003 7:45:10 PM PDT by fightu4it (Hillary Clinton -- Commander-In-Chief of US Armed Forces? Never.....Never....Never!)
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To: NMC EXP
You certainly called for a lot of help in your ping list. Not up to annihilating specious arguments while standing on your own hind legs without backup, huh?

Lame attempt there as well, but I'll play the game, so here I am without back-up.

Let's go back to the question you never bothered to answer. You're plumbing is broken, basement flooded. You gonna call Acme plumbing across town just to show what a shining example of non-partisanship you are, or are you gonna call your best friend, who just happens to be a great plumber you can trust?

Bechtel is probably in the category of your best friend the plunber, notwithstanding Schultz's connection, if it still exists.

I fully realize this issue cuts both ways and I realize the "Creeping Fascism" article was non-partisan as well. Merely pointing out that this is war, and the other side plays a much more murderous game than we do.

Wanna let them win in the name of FAIR PLAY?

FRegards

Bob

214 posted on 07/11/2003 8:09:57 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Dues paying member of the vast right wing conspiracy)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I was in VN in 67 & 68. Demos were in control up to and incliding 68. There was a construction firm that seemed to have most of the large contracts, RMKBRJ. I never knew what the initials stood for or who the principals were, but someone was sure making a poop load of money. They used to drive the long yellow school buses around Siagon to pick up and drop off workers.

Makes one wonder if they might have had some ties to the democraps.

215 posted on 07/11/2003 8:21:27 PM PDT by fightu4it (Hillary Clinton -- Commander-In-Chief of US Armed Forces? Never.....Never....Never!)
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To: NMC EXP
I forgot to clue you to one more little tidbit regarding the Big Oil/Bush DemocRATic talking points, which you seem to believe, hook, line and sinker. Check out my Home Page and read my Letter to Lieberman that Savage read on his show.

"Frreeper Letter Makes Talk Radio"

Might give you a little history on which party really got into bed with Enron during a certain Administration. Enjoy the reading, it might enlighten you.

216 posted on 07/11/2003 8:25:44 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Dues paying member of the vast right wing conspiracy)
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To: fightu4it
There was a construction firm that seemed to have most of the large contracts, RMKBRJ. I never knew what the initials stood for or who the principals were, but someone was sure making a poop load of money. They used to drive the long yellow school buses around Siagon to pick up and drop off workers.

Makes one wonder if they might have had some ties to the democraps.

I'll see if I can find out....it would be interesting.

217 posted on 07/11/2003 8:28:57 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Dues paying member of the vast right wing conspiracy)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I fully realize this issue cuts both ways and I realize the "Creeping Fascism" article was non-partisan as well. Merely pointing out that this is war, and the other side plays a much more murderous game than we do.

Well, some common ground after all. People (both r & d) in positions to decide who gets nominated to join the country club or rebuild a country or sell missle technology to the ChiComs generally do these things for their friends and/or campaign contributors. Its just human nature.

Wanna let them win in the name of FAIR PLAY?

You are stuck on this issue. Halliburton and Bechtel have nothing to do with defeating Iraq. They came after the fact to repair the destruction caused by the US ordnance used for the liberation of Iraq.

Ever heard Dwight D. Eisenhower's (republican) speech re: the "military-industrial complex"?

Regards

J.R.

218 posted on 07/11/2003 8:30:16 PM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: NMC EXP
You are stuck on this issue. Halliburton and Bechtel have nothing to do with defeating Iraq. They came after the fact to repair the destruction caused by the US ordnance used for the liberation of Iraq.

Wrong, or largely wrong. Iraq's O&G infrastructure WAS severely deteriorated PRIOR to the war from years of inaction and lack of upgrades and improvement. What do you think those contracts before the war, with Lukoil (Rusxia) and Total ElfFina (France) were partially about? Infrastructure improvment.

Bechtel is there mainly for general construction and electrical generation improvement, NOT to repair a ravaged country.

That was the most surgical war ever fought. As much damage was incurred by looting and general Iraqi rage after Sadam as was done by our bombing.

Ever heard Dwight D. Eisenhower's (republican) speech re: the "military-industrial complex"?

Yes I have, and I am not worried of his fears expressed therein.

219 posted on 07/11/2003 8:42:31 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Dues paying member of the vast right wing conspiracy)
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To: NMC EXP
When I'm talking about winning, I mean defeating the RATs, not Iraq.
220 posted on 07/11/2003 8:44:13 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Dues paying member of the vast right wing conspiracy)
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