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Andrew Sullivan: It’s all getting a little hysterical (Ann Coulter = Michael Moore)
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 07/06/03 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/05/2003 4:28:35 PM PDT by Pokey78

Few would dispute that she’s a babe. Lanky, skinny, with long blonde hair tumbling down to her breasts, Ann Coulter has been photographed in a shiny black latex dress. She’s whip-sharp in public debates, has done a fair amount of homework and has made a lot of the right enemies.

If much of modern American conservatism has made headway because of its media savvy, compelling personalities and shameless provocation, then Coulter deserves some pride of place in its vanguard.

But that, of course, is also the problem. In the ever-competitive marketplace of political ideas — in a world of blogs and talk radio and cable news — it is increasingly hard to stand out. Coulter’s answer to that dilemma is twofold: look amazing and ratchet up the rhetoric against the left until it has the subtlety and nuance of a car alarm. The left, in turn, has learnt the lesson, which is why the attack dog Michael Moore has done so well.

In fact, it’s worth thinking of Coulter as a kind of inverse Moore: whereas he’s ugly and ill-kempt, she’s glamorous and impeccably turned out. (Her web page, anncoulter.org, has a gallery of sexy images.) But what they have in common is more significant: a hysterical hatred of their political opponents and an ability to say anything to advance their causes (and extremely lucrative careers).

Coulter’s modus operandi is rhetorical extremity. She was fired from the conservative National Review magazine when, in the wake of 9/11, she urged the invasion of all Muslim nations and the forcible conversion of their citizens to Christianity.

As Brendan Nyhan, the media critic, has documented, her flights of fancy go back a long way. No punches are pulled. Ted Kennedy is an “adulterous drunk”. President Clinton had “crack pipes on the White House Christmas tree”. You get the idea.

In Coulter’s world there are two types of people: conservatives and liberals. These are not groups of people with competing ideas. They are the repositories of good and evil. There are no distinctions among conservatives or among liberals. To admit the complexity of political discourse would immediately require Coulter to think, explain, argue. But why bother when you can earn millions by being insulting? Here are a few comments about “liberals” that Coulter has deployed over the years: “Liberals are fanatical liars.” Liberals are “devoted to class warfare, ethnic hatred and intolerance”. Liberals “hate democracy because democracy requires persuasion and compromise rather than brute political force”.

Some of this is obvious hyperbole designed for a partisan audience. Some of it could be explained as good, dirty fun. It was this formula that gained her enormous sales for her last book, Slander, which detailed, in sometimes hilarious prose, the liberal bias in much of the American media.

Her latest tome ups the ante even further. If biased liberal editors are busy slandering conservatives, liberals more generally are dedicated to the subversion of their own country. They are guilty of — yes — treason.

A few nuggets: “As a rule of thumb, Democrats opposed anything opposed by their cherished Soviet Union. The Soviet Union did not like the idea of a militarily strong America. Neither did the Democrats!” Earlier in the same vein: “Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America’s self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.”

And then: “The myth of ‘McCarthyism’ is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times. Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. The portrayal of Senator Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren’t hiding under the bed during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation’s ability to defend itself, while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy’s name.”

Coulter does not seek to complicate her view of liberals with any serious treatment of the many Democrats and liberals who were ferociously anti-communist. Scoop Jackson? Harry Truman? John F Kennedy? Lyndon Vietnam Johnson? She doesn’t substantively deal with those Democrats today — from Senator Joe Lieberman to The New Republic magazine — who were anti-Saddam before many Republicans were.

She is absolutely right to insist that many on the left are in denial about the complicity of some Americans in Soviet evil, the guilt of true traitors such as Alger Hiss or the Rosenbergs, who helped Stalin and his heirs in their murderous pursuits.

Part of the frustration of reading Coulter is that her basic causes are the right ones: the American media truly is biased to the left; some liberals and Democrats were bona fide traitors during the cold war; many on the far left today are essentially anti-American and hope for the defeat of their country in foreign wars.

But by making huge and sweeping generalisations about all liberals, Coulter undermines her own arguments and comes close to making them meaningless. If you condemn good and bad liberals alike, how can you be trusted to make any moral distinctions of any kind? And by defending the tactics of McCarthy, she actually plays directly into the hands of the left.

What she won’t concede is that it is possible to be clear-headed about the role that some liberals and Democrats played in supporting the Soviet Union, while reviling the kind of tactics that McCarthy used.

In fact, when liberals taunt conservatives with being McCarthyites, conservatives now have to concede that some of their allies, namely Coulter, obviously are McCarthyites — and proud of it.

Ron Radosh, one of the most reputable scholars who has studied the McCarthy era in great detail, is appalled at the damage Coulter has done to the work he and many others have painstakingly done over the years.

“I am furious and upset about her book,” he told me last week. “I am reading it — she uses my stuff, Harvey Klehr and John Haynes, Allen Weinstein etc, to distort what we actually say and to make ludicrous and historically incorrect arguments.

“You might recall my lengthy and negative review in The New Republic a few years ago of (Arthur) Herman’s book on McCarthy; well, she is 10 times worse than Herman. At least he tried to use bona fide historical methods of research and argument.”

Radosh has endured ostracism and abuse for insisting that many of McCarthy’s victims were indeed communist spies or agents. But he draws the line at Coulter’s crude and inflammatory defence of McCarthy: “I think it is important that those who are considered critics of left/liberalism don’t stop using our critical faculties when self-proclaimed conservatives start producing crap.”

Amen. American politics has been badly damaged by the scruple-free tactics of those like Moore and Coulter. In some ways, of course, these shameless hucksters of ideological hate deserve each other. But America surely deserves better.


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To: Pokey78
The left, in turn, has learnt the lesson, which is why the attack dog Michael Moore has done so well.

He's joking, right? Right?

21 posted on 07/05/2003 4:46:22 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Pokey78; mountaineer
I'm afraid Andrew's got Ann's number. I'm trying to read "Treason" right now and find it poorly edited, poorly written, and extremely tedious. And that doesn't even cover what I think about her main tenet.

I've been a Coulter fan, but I have to wonder what she's smoking these days.

Could it be that Jonah Goldberg was right?

(ok, flame suit is on)
22 posted on 07/05/2003 4:46:46 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Zipporah
Uh.. comparing the scruples of Coulter and Moore is like comparing apples to a**holes.

Well then, let's compare apples to a**holes.

Let's see...Moore works by pandering to the left, spicing his generalizations with enough distorted facts & figures to make them sound credible, and shamelessly tars the other side as heartless, cruel, and possibly fascist.

Coulter works by pandering to the right, spicing her generalizations with enough distorted facts & figures to make them sound credible, an shamelessly tars the other side as stupid, unpatriotic and possibly traitorous.

They're both two sides of the same coin, so don't assume that just because Ann's telling you what you want to hear that it's the unvarnished truth.

23 posted on 07/05/2003 4:47:36 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Screw him.

Only if you're suicidal.

24 posted on 07/05/2003 4:48:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I will be 37 this month. Am I grown up yet?)
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To: Pokey78
many on the far left today are essentially anti-American and hope for the defeat of their country in foreign wars.

Only during Republican administrations.

25 posted on 07/05/2003 4:49:45 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Pokey78
Sullivan and others should be reminded that Ann has a degree in Constitutional law! Go Ann!
26 posted on 07/05/2003 4:50:40 PM PDT by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Pokey78
It is amusing when one shameless, ambitious and ubiquitous PR hound excoriates another shameless, ambitious and ubiquitous PR hound for being themselves ;-)
27 posted on 07/05/2003 4:51:26 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Pokey78
her flights of fancy go back a long way. No punches are pulled. Ted Kennedy is an “adulterous drunk”

Sounds like a reality based comment to me....

28 posted on 07/05/2003 4:52:36 PM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: wirestripper
Sullivan cannot put Ann and Dumbo (Moore)in the same bag, as he has attempted to do.

The reason is that while they both draw the ire of the other side, Dumbo does it by lying and Ann does it with the cold hard facts.

What YOU Said!!! (Love it when good minds think alike!!!)

29 posted on 07/05/2003 4:52:39 PM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: Pokey78
The left, in turn, has learnt the lesson, which is why the attack dog Michael Moore has done so well.

I would respectfully disagree; even the lefties I know think moore is a disgusting pig..

Comparing Coulter to Moore is like comparing the Vatican with the Clinton LIEbrary..

30 posted on 07/05/2003 4:52:53 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Screw him!


31 posted on 07/05/2003 4:53:16 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Endeavor
Florence King she isn't...but made for TV, yes indeed she is.She does run the risk of over-exposure as a combative partisan.
32 posted on 07/05/2003 4:53:26 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: SubMareener
And all the other Republican Babes!

Why, thank you! And you haven't even seen my pictures!

FReegards,

Xy

33 posted on 07/05/2003 4:53:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I will be 37 this month. Am I grown up yet?)
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To: tet68
Happy Fifth, tet.

"Andrew, if you don't want her, I'll take her.", you wrote.

"Looks like you win Ann by default. Andrew is gay, (Aids too), he's devoutly Catholic, and he's Conservative. So don't fret that he's not too fond of Ann's slash and burn style. He's in total agreement with Ann's main points:

Ann " is absolutely right to insist that many on the left are in denial about the complicity of some Americans in Soviet evil, the guilt of true traitors such as Alger Hiss or the Rosenbergs, who helped Stalin and his heirs in their murderous pursuits.

... her basic causes are the right ones: the American media truly is biased to the left; some liberals and Democrats were bona fide traitors during the cold war; many on the far left today are essentially anti-American and hope for the defeat of their country in foreign wars."

34 posted on 07/05/2003 4:54:49 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Kozak
BLOATED MURDERING ADULTEROUS DRUNK

That's bloated, murderous, adulterous, socialist drunk....

35 posted on 07/05/2003 4:55:35 PM PDT by freebilly (I think they've misunderestimated us....)
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To: habs4ever
Flo King is a tough act to follow. No one's been able to do that, yet (NR keeps trying and failing on the back page).
36 posted on 07/05/2003 4:56:06 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Tax-chick
And you haven't even seen my pictures!

Don't tease us!

37 posted on 07/05/2003 4:57:36 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: YaYa123
Hi dear, you and dean doing ok?
Haven't been freepin on the streets in a long while but
elections are coming so hope to see you guys before long.
38 posted on 07/05/2003 4:58:51 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Endeavor
There is one man who can rescue that back page...Mark Steyn.
39 posted on 07/05/2003 5:00:11 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Pokey78
As Brendan Nyhan, the media critic, has documented, her flights of fancy go back a long way. No punches are pulled. Ted Kennedy is an “adulterous drunk”. President Clinton had “crack pipes on the White House Christmas tree”. You get the idea.

Why is it extremist to report the facts?

40 posted on 07/05/2003 5:00:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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