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Andrew Sullivan: It’s all getting a little hysterical (Ann Coulter = Michael Moore)
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 07/06/03 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/05/2003 4:28:35 PM PDT by Pokey78

Few would dispute that she’s a babe. Lanky, skinny, with long blonde hair tumbling down to her breasts, Ann Coulter has been photographed in a shiny black latex dress. She’s whip-sharp in public debates, has done a fair amount of homework and has made a lot of the right enemies.

If much of modern American conservatism has made headway because of its media savvy, compelling personalities and shameless provocation, then Coulter deserves some pride of place in its vanguard.

But that, of course, is also the problem. In the ever-competitive marketplace of political ideas — in a world of blogs and talk radio and cable news — it is increasingly hard to stand out. Coulter’s answer to that dilemma is twofold: look amazing and ratchet up the rhetoric against the left until it has the subtlety and nuance of a car alarm. The left, in turn, has learnt the lesson, which is why the attack dog Michael Moore has done so well.

In fact, it’s worth thinking of Coulter as a kind of inverse Moore: whereas he’s ugly and ill-kempt, she’s glamorous and impeccably turned out. (Her web page, anncoulter.org, has a gallery of sexy images.) But what they have in common is more significant: a hysterical hatred of their political opponents and an ability to say anything to advance their causes (and extremely lucrative careers).

Coulter’s modus operandi is rhetorical extremity. She was fired from the conservative National Review magazine when, in the wake of 9/11, she urged the invasion of all Muslim nations and the forcible conversion of their citizens to Christianity.

As Brendan Nyhan, the media critic, has documented, her flights of fancy go back a long way. No punches are pulled. Ted Kennedy is an “adulterous drunk”. President Clinton had “crack pipes on the White House Christmas tree”. You get the idea.

In Coulter’s world there are two types of people: conservatives and liberals. These are not groups of people with competing ideas. They are the repositories of good and evil. There are no distinctions among conservatives or among liberals. To admit the complexity of political discourse would immediately require Coulter to think, explain, argue. But why bother when you can earn millions by being insulting? Here are a few comments about “liberals” that Coulter has deployed over the years: “Liberals are fanatical liars.” Liberals are “devoted to class warfare, ethnic hatred and intolerance”. Liberals “hate democracy because democracy requires persuasion and compromise rather than brute political force”.

Some of this is obvious hyperbole designed for a partisan audience. Some of it could be explained as good, dirty fun. It was this formula that gained her enormous sales for her last book, Slander, which detailed, in sometimes hilarious prose, the liberal bias in much of the American media.

Her latest tome ups the ante even further. If biased liberal editors are busy slandering conservatives, liberals more generally are dedicated to the subversion of their own country. They are guilty of — yes — treason.

A few nuggets: “As a rule of thumb, Democrats opposed anything opposed by their cherished Soviet Union. The Soviet Union did not like the idea of a militarily strong America. Neither did the Democrats!” Earlier in the same vein: “Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America’s self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.”

And then: “The myth of ‘McCarthyism’ is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times. Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. The portrayal of Senator Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren’t hiding under the bed during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation’s ability to defend itself, while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy’s name.”

Coulter does not seek to complicate her view of liberals with any serious treatment of the many Democrats and liberals who were ferociously anti-communist. Scoop Jackson? Harry Truman? John F Kennedy? Lyndon Vietnam Johnson? She doesn’t substantively deal with those Democrats today — from Senator Joe Lieberman to The New Republic magazine — who were anti-Saddam before many Republicans were.

She is absolutely right to insist that many on the left are in denial about the complicity of some Americans in Soviet evil, the guilt of true traitors such as Alger Hiss or the Rosenbergs, who helped Stalin and his heirs in their murderous pursuits.

Part of the frustration of reading Coulter is that her basic causes are the right ones: the American media truly is biased to the left; some liberals and Democrats were bona fide traitors during the cold war; many on the far left today are essentially anti-American and hope for the defeat of their country in foreign wars.

But by making huge and sweeping generalisations about all liberals, Coulter undermines her own arguments and comes close to making them meaningless. If you condemn good and bad liberals alike, how can you be trusted to make any moral distinctions of any kind? And by defending the tactics of McCarthy, she actually plays directly into the hands of the left.

What she won’t concede is that it is possible to be clear-headed about the role that some liberals and Democrats played in supporting the Soviet Union, while reviling the kind of tactics that McCarthy used.

In fact, when liberals taunt conservatives with being McCarthyites, conservatives now have to concede that some of their allies, namely Coulter, obviously are McCarthyites — and proud of it.

Ron Radosh, one of the most reputable scholars who has studied the McCarthy era in great detail, is appalled at the damage Coulter has done to the work he and many others have painstakingly done over the years.

“I am furious and upset about her book,” he told me last week. “I am reading it — she uses my stuff, Harvey Klehr and John Haynes, Allen Weinstein etc, to distort what we actually say and to make ludicrous and historically incorrect arguments.

“You might recall my lengthy and negative review in The New Republic a few years ago of (Arthur) Herman’s book on McCarthy; well, she is 10 times worse than Herman. At least he tried to use bona fide historical methods of research and argument.”

Radosh has endured ostracism and abuse for insisting that many of McCarthy’s victims were indeed communist spies or agents. But he draws the line at Coulter’s crude and inflammatory defence of McCarthy: “I think it is important that those who are considered critics of left/liberalism don’t stop using our critical faculties when self-proclaimed conservatives start producing crap.”

Amen. American politics has been badly damaged by the scruple-free tactics of those like Moore and Coulter. In some ways, of course, these shameless hucksters of ideological hate deserve each other. But America surely deserves better.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 07/05/2003 4:28:35 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; mombonn; Sabertooth; Miss Marple; *Ann Coulter list; BraveMan; 1riot1ranger; ...
Pinging both thre Sullivan & Coulter lists.
2 posted on 07/05/2003 4:30:25 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
I think Ms. Coulter's only big mistake is using "liberal" and "Democrat" as synonymous terms. Sometimes they are, and sometimes they aint.
3 posted on 07/05/2003 4:31:59 PM PDT by squidly
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To: Pokey78
Andrew, if you don't want her, I'll take her.

Liberals, Bahh!
4 posted on 07/05/2003 4:32:32 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Pokey78
Sullivan cannot put Ann and Dumbo (Moore)in the same bag, as he has attempted to do.

The reason is that while they both draw the ire of the other side, Dumbo does it by lying and Ann does it with the cold hard facts.

Sullivan is off the wall on this and several other things lately.

5 posted on 07/05/2003 4:36:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: Pokey78
"..scruple-free tactics of those like Moore and Coulter.."

Uh.. comparing the scruples of Coulter and Moore is like comparing apples to a**holes.

6 posted on 07/05/2003 4:36:51 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: tet68
Andrew won't go for her anyways. Likes to be a prison punk and play bend over and get the soap, if you know what I mean!
7 posted on 07/05/2003 4:38:39 PM PDT by Bommer (Tom Dasshole is a Domestic Enemy!!!)
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To: Pokey78

Can I post this?

8 posted on 07/05/2003 4:38:41 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Pokey78
Gives himself away: If you condemn good and bad liberals alike,

He thinks there are good liberals. Idiot! Some are just better actors than others. Andrew Sullivan's act is the one that's getting old ...

9 posted on 07/05/2003 4:39:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I will be 37 this month!)
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To: Pokey78
Few would dispute that she’s a babe.

Count me as one of the few.

10 posted on 07/05/2003 4:40:32 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Pokey78
Here are a few comments about “liberals” that Coulter has deployed over the years:

Hmmm. So, what's Sullivan's beef?

11 posted on 07/05/2003 4:40:34 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Zipporah; Pokey78
How can you compare someone who's graduated law school to someone who dropped out of college after barely graduating high school?????
12 posted on 07/05/2003 4:40:46 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (The mind is its own place, and in itself can make heaven of hell, a hell of heaven~Milton)
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To: Pokey78
Everyone is going nuts. Can't wait for Ann's reply if she even bothers to read this trash.
13 posted on 07/05/2003 4:43:17 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Pokey78
No punches are pulled. Ted Kennedy is an “adulterous drunk”.

What the hell is wrong with Ann, that SHOULD read:
BLOATED MURDERING ADULTEROUS DRUNK.
14 posted on 07/05/2003 4:43:28 PM PDT by Kozak (" No mans life liberty or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain)
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To: Pokey78
To say that Coulter and Moore have the same amount of factual basis in the works they put forth is blatantly absurd. Sullivan trying to be centrist 'voice of reason'. Screw him.
15 posted on 07/05/2003 4:43:39 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (The enemy is.......within......)
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping!

in a world of blogs and talk radio and cable news — it is increasingly hard to stand out. Coulter’s answer to that dilemma is twofold: look amazing and ratchet up the rhetoric against the left until it has the subtlety and nuance of a car alarm.

The arrogance and selfishness shines in Ann! Alas, someone that plays the game and in so doing fights fire with fire!

More of the likes of Ann Coulter should be seen as a benifit to all!

16 posted on 07/05/2003 4:44:02 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Pokey78
As Brendan Nyhan, the media critic, has documented, her flights of fancy go back a long way. No punches are pulled. Ted Kennedy is an "adulterous drunk" . . ..

Is Sullivan complaining because it is false to say this or because it is impolite to say this? I don't know about Andrew, but if I was married and drove off a bridge with a galpal inside my car who was not my wife and I then left her to drown while I got together with my family to figure out how to do damage control, I would be damn happy if all I was called was an 'adulterous drunk.'

17 posted on 07/05/2003 4:44:09 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Pokey78

The fanatics's role in history is a long and honorable one. <johnwayne> It's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it.</johnwayne>

Notice how the liberals aren't screaming about that reactionary extremist Rush Limbaugh anymore? He's practically a moderate now. Heh heh.


18 posted on 07/05/2003 4:44:24 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: Pokey78
As Brendan Nyhan, the media critic, has documented, her flights of fancy go back a long way. ..... Ted Kennedy is an “adulterous drunk”. President Clinton had “crack pipes on the White House Christmas tree”. You get the idea.

Iow, she's a straight shooter.

19 posted on 07/05/2003 4:45:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tax-chick
But America surely deserves better.

Yes, Andrew, it does. America deserves someone much better that you. Ann Coulter will do for starters. Then there is Starr Parker. And all the other Republican Babes!

20 posted on 07/05/2003 4:46:13 PM PDT by SubMareener
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