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Andrew Sullivan: It’s all getting a little hysterical (Ann Coulter = Michael Moore)
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 07/06/03 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/05/2003 4:28:35 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: speedy
The more the merrier.

? Not sure I follow you?

61 posted on 07/05/2003 5:24:16 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Pokey78
Ann is the best ! And ten times smarter than the warthog Moore.

Exposing liberals to the truth is like showing the Vampire a cross, they melt.
62 posted on 07/05/2003 5:24:45 PM PDT by John Lenin (Government does not solve problems, it subsidizes them)
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To: Prodigal Son
Just meant the more posting of Ann pix the merrier. Nothing profound here.
63 posted on 07/05/2003 5:25:15 PM PDT by speedy
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Coulter does not seek to complicate her view of liberals with any serious treatment of the many Democrats and liberals who were ferociously anti-communist. Lyndon Vietnam Johnson?

Lyndon Johnson was not anti -communist. Lyndon was pro-Johnson. If that meant sending American soldiers into So. Vietnam to prop up the Saigon government until after the 1968 election and his reelection, he would do it. It didn't matter if the enemy was commie or not. "Charlie" was, simply, Lyndon's political enemy. Nothing more. (sigh)

64 posted on 07/05/2003 5:25:26 PM PDT by elbucko (Happy Birthday, America!)
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To: speedy
OK.
65 posted on 07/05/2003 5:25:58 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Pokey78
Coulter does not seek to complicate her view of liberals with any serious treatment of the many Democrats and liberals who were ferociously anti-communist. Scoop Jackson? Harry Truman? John F Kennedy? Lyndon Vietnam Johnson?

Scoop Jackson is anything but representative of the Democrat party today or even in his own day. He was a maverick in their ranks and in no reasonable sense represented anything in their mainstream. Truman did fight the commies fairly consistently - not great or all out, but about as good as one could expect from a Dem and certainly better than his old Soviet-cuddling boss Franklin Roosevelt. The same goes for Kennedy who did stand up to the commies (cuban missile crisis), one of the few Dem supporters of McCarthy, and was eventually killed by a communist (Oswald) or many communists (Castro's minions), depending on if you take the standard version or the conspiracy fringe version.

LBJ an anti-communist? Not a chance. He fought another faction of communism abroad while doing his best to install his own version here at home. It was called the Great Society.

In other words, Sullivan's attempted rebuttal does nothing more than prove Coulter's rule by citing the few exceptions (some of them genuine exceptions and some anything but).

66 posted on 07/05/2003 5:27:06 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: habs4ever
It is amusing when one shameless, ambitious and ubiquitous PR hound excoriates another shameless, ambitious and ubiquitous PR hound for being themselves ;-)

LOL. Amen.

I find it amazing that so many folks take any of them so seriously. ;-)

67 posted on 07/05/2003 5:27:36 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: Pokey78
Coulter’s modus operandi is rhetorical extremity...
Well, sort of.

But her style was BETTER described HERE:

[Coulter] 'I love to pick fights with liberals'
Electronic Telegraph ^ | 19 July, 2002 | Toby Harnden
Posted on 07/19/2002 4:40 AM PDT by brityank

'I love to pick fights with liberals'


(Filed: 19/07/2002)
Right-wing broadcaster Ann Coulter captured the belligerent mood of America after September 11.
Toby Harnden meets her in enemy territory

Believe what you read about Ann Coulter and you could be forgiven for wanting to skip a lunch date with her. Surf the web and you can take your pick - she is anything from a "Right-wing telebimbo", "America's favourite blonde neo-fascist" or "Ku Klux Coulter" to the "whore of babble on". She is also the "Queen of the Maneaters", a female friend warns me.

Coulter is not difficult to spot as she enters the chic La Goulue restaurant on Madison Avenue in Manhattan. She is rail-thin, wears a skirt so short that it would be better described as a small flannel, and leaves men staring in silent awe. "It's my total slutty look," she confides later.

'THE' Conservative Babe.
Loud and proud:
'It's my total slutty look'
says Ann Coulter

It's a good thing I've got a tape recorder, she tells me breezily, because writers who take notes "always step on the punch line and make me sound like a pedestrian idiot".

Coulter is no idiot and few would describe her as pedestrian. With an Ivy League degree from Cornell, she went to law school before joining a corporate practice and working as legal counsel for the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Her book High Crimes and Misdemeanours became the definitive conservative case for impeaching President Bill Clinton and her syndicated columns gained a nationwide following.

She has also been a big hit on television since the Clinton scandals broke. Totally fearless, relentlessly combative and unwilling to brook any talk of mushy compromise, Miss Coulter is the ultimate pin-up for the militia crowd.

It all happened by accident, she says, happily. "It really was just God looking down and saying: 'We've got enough lawyers, I'm putting you on TV'."

Now she is sitting pretty at the top of the New York Times bestseller list with her second book, Slander, a devastating diatribe against the Left and all its works - the New York Times in particular.

Coulter's approach is not so much "take no prisoners" as "capture one's opponents, string them up with piano wire, machine-gun them until all movement has ceased and then fire a celebratory volley into the air..."

CLICK HERE for the rest of the thread

68 posted on 07/05/2003 5:28:53 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Thanks for posting that excerpt. I was about to post the quote about Ann being "fired" from NR.

Perhaps Mr. Sullivan should be more particular about his "facts."
69 posted on 07/05/2003 5:29:20 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Pokey78
“You might recall my lengthy and negative review in The New Republic a few years ago of (Arthur) Herman’s book on McCarthy; well, she is 10 times worse than Herman. At least he tried to use bona fide historical methods of research and argument.”

Mr. Sullivan:

(I'm hoping you are vain enough to scan what is written about you here.)

Couldn't you have told us one place where Ms. Coulter got it wrong in her book if you are going to be so critical?

You quote some fool who does the same thing (fail to point out any inaccuracies) as if that were evidence that Coulter hasn't done her homework.

Surely you can do better.

ML/NJ

70 posted on 07/05/2003 5:30:39 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: wirestripper
Sullivan cannot put Ann and Dumbo (Moore)in the same bag, as he has attempted to do.

Right because Dumbo Moore is too fat. Otherwise, they are both idiots who make idiotic statements that are unsupportable. Andrew is right. Ann is more attractive than Moore but nonetheless she is nut. She undercuts her own argument when she claims all Dems are traitors and all Dems are anti-American. Was Reagan a traitor during his years as a Dem. Was Jean Kirkpatrick a traitor? Was Strom Thurmond? Hell he was a Democrat longer than he was a Republican and he definitely was a Dem during the McCarthy period.

71 posted on 07/05/2003 5:30:39 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: speedy; RaceBannon; TLBSHOW; ChadGore
you know the rules....(sigh)

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11 posted on 07/04/2003 3:57 AM PDT by RaceBannon


72 posted on 07/05/2003 5:34:46 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Pokey78
And by defending the tactics of McCarthy, she actually plays directly into the hands of the left. What she won’t concede is that it is possible to be clear-headed about the role that some liberals and Democrats played in supporting the Soviet Union, while reviling the kind of tactics that McCarthy used.

Sullivan's logical premise in that statement is a load of fallacious garbage unto itself. It is also indicative that he is unfamiliar with what Coulter wrote about McCarthy.

To start, Sullivan begins with the premise that McCarthy used the dirty and evil tactics that are popularly associated with his name and that therefore any praise of him is a defense of the indefensible.

The argument only functions if (1) we assume Sullivan's premise about McCarthy to be correct and (2) we assume that Coulter simply praised his name in spite of the tactics that are previously assumed. But as anyone who has actually read the book will tell you, Coulter does NOT simply praise McCarthy and in fact develops an argument as to why many of the assumptions contained in Sullivan's own premise are factually inaccurate.

73 posted on 07/05/2003 5:35:17 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Dave S
come on dave, Ann is correct while Sullivan here has just written the biggest piece of trash this year!

All democrats are evil..........
74 posted on 07/05/2003 5:35:18 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: dogbyte12
Sullivan says these are "flights of fancy," which in my book means he strongly implies that they are untrue. Maureen Dowd typically indulges in flights of fancy. She sits in her office and simply imagining what the "Bushies" are doing and saying in the White House. Dowd invents conversations, invents thoughts, invents all sorts of things that have no connection with factual reality. That's what I call "flights of fancy."

Kennedy is a well-known drunk and a well-known adulterer. He made no great effort to hide either of these weaknesses. He even went so far as effectually to murder one of the young women he had an affair with and try to cover it up. Clinton did have a Christmas tree in the White House during his first term that was decorated with bongs--and also with condoms. Not a flight of fancy but a reported--though of course not widely reported--fact.

75 posted on 07/05/2003 5:36:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pokey78
she urged the invasion of all Muslim nations and the forcible conversion of their citizens to Christianity.

She said we should invade nations that promote terrorism. She did not use the word 'forcible' when she said that we should convert Muslims to Christianity.

But go ahead and believe what you want to believe.

76 posted on 07/05/2003 5:36:30 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Okay, now it works: Knight's Quest, at http://www.geocities.com/engineerzero)
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To: SubMareener
I rather fancy, India Allen. Thanks for the link...;^)
77 posted on 07/05/2003 5:37:02 PM PDT by elbucko (Happy Birthday, America!)
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To: RonDog
ANN COULTER BUMP




78 posted on 07/05/2003 5:37:25 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: TLBSHOW
All democrats are evil.......... Even Bob Novak, who keeps his democratic registration so he can vote in the one party system in D.C.?

Was Jim Robinson evil when he was a democrat? Ronald Reagan? I need a delineation point. Have all democrats always been evil? Was there a cut-off point say, January 26, 1983 where any non evil democrats left the party? Please clarify.

79 posted on 07/05/2003 5:37:56 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Endeavor
Could it be that Jonah Goldberg was right?

...speaking of poorly written and tedious.

80 posted on 07/05/2003 5:38:44 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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