Denial becomes the new language of casual sex

The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | July 3 2003 | Steve Dow

[RussianConservative]

So more will die...it is survival of fittest and they prove to stupid to survive. Ok.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I think that type of thinking is what makes the homosexuals so dangerous to themselves. If they do not believe in an all-forgiving God, then they do not see that they are worthy of redemption. I can only imagine the type of pain these people must live with. Christians should always remember that each of us is a sinner, and forgiven by the grace of God alone.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Unfortunately, the government will subsidize the survival of these creeps and allow the spread of their foul disease far and wide.

[NavyCaptain]

Sadly, you are so correct!

[FierceDraka]

So more will die...it is survival of fittest and they prove to stupid to survive. Ok.Ah! A fellow Darwinist. Sir, I like the way you think.

Also, gay men reduce the competition for women, IMHO. Not an entirely bad thing, for a guy like me.

[DannyTN]

"well I would normally tend to agree. But when he says he's 6 years old and just knew he was different and couldn't figure it out until he was about 10, I'm not so sure. "

There are counselors out there who specialize in this. Has he sought out any of those?

I also think it's learned behavior. I suspect something happened by the time he was 10, that caused him to associate sexual feelings with males. It may have even happened before he was 6 but I suspect the choices he made as an adolescent reinforced those desire patterns.

[El Gato]

I suspect the U.S. Supreme Court would or will rule that "barebacking" is a Constitutional right.

[Sofa King]

You guys aren't alone here :)

With all of the AIDS education we've been given, these men should have learned to watch where they stick their penises by now.

[UCANSEE2]

No, the money that could have used to bring a faster cure for cancer will have bought an AIDS cure, and then we will subsidize its distribution. We will have succeeded in removing a strong motivator for behaving well.

It worked before. You (via no choice)subsidize abortion. It is a very strong motivator for not behaving well.

[UCANSEE2]

The idea that homosexuality is a learned, not inherited behavior is most likely the truth.

What we, as a society, do not stop to realize, is that it is society that forces that path of learning. We are responsible for it, not those that follow the only path they see.

For explanation:

Just because a male has effiminate behaviour, does not mean his preference sexually (initiated by a rise in hormones) should be for males. SOCIETY MAKES THAT ASSUMPTION. IT IS TAUGHT on TV, in SCHOOLS, DURING JOKES. (Remember the gay male hairdresser jokes?)

Since effeminate behaviour does not jostle the hormones of the females, they shy away from believing such a person would even want to have sex with them.

SO, Everyone wants to be wanted. When females don't want you, where do you turn for love. And I believe it is love that is the real driving factor for homosexuality on both sides of the human sexual equation. Love, not sex. Or I should say, the need to be needed by someone, anyone.

Sex, or the drive to complete the sex act can be ignored, or relieved.

The need to be wanted, to be needed, to feel like someone cares about you, can not. No one makes fun of you for not having sex. (well, amongst the jr. high and sr. high crowd, it can be an issue, but that isn't what causes homosexuality)

BUT, you can't get away from yourself. You want someone to care about you, to love you. I have seen examples over and over of the extremes humans go to to BE LOVED. Even to ignoring sex,if doing so means THEY GET LOVE, COMPANIONSHIP.

Another important, although less driving influence is just that it is so popular these days. Society, once again, is making rules telling kids they have a right to he homosexual. Our government likewise. Is it a wonder those that think they are homosexual, want to believe they have no choice?

[DannyTN]

"it is society that forces that path of learning."

I think that may be a very valid observation. No matter how big the difference between males and females there are always going to be those males who are more effeminate than average. And given human nature those are going to be picked on or shuned by some.

And while there are women who would find those attractive, group think sets in and they tend get shunned by women too. Women seem to be particularly bad about the group think thing too. JLo could date the ugliest most effiminate guy and girls would be lining up behind her. What's that about?

But I also think a good portion of homosexual males are introduced to homosexual sex at an early age. One of the reasons I think that is because one of my best friends in the second grade (that would be 7-9yo) propositioned me and said that he and a cousin had done it and it felt good. I didn't know much about sex at that age, but I knew I didn't want any part of what he was proposing. And several other gays that I've talked to admit to having experiences at a very young age.

[UCANSEE2]

The type of experience you mentioned is also a valid contributor to the acceptance and spread of homosexuality.

Human beings are very complicated and there is never just one answer, to anything.