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One of the reasons I don't dislike Hootie Johnson of Augusta National Golf Club is because I believe that in his heart, he would be fine with allowing a female member of the club -- as long as it was the decision of the club's members and not dictated by rabble-rousing outsiders with an agenda that has nothing to do with progress and everything to do with drawing attention to themselves.

I am sure the guys at Kraft -- who are part of the conglomerate formerly known as Philip Morris -- remember all too well the way greedy lawyers and cash-thirsty attorneys general gutted the tobacco industry with a dull knife, and want to avoid another bloodbath. Still, it's got to be pretty doggone emasculating when some wackjob lawyer from the Bay Area sues you over Oreo cookies, ADMITS that he's doing it just to get attention, GETS the attention, and you have to change everything about your company as a result.

1 posted on 07/01/2003 10:20:02 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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it would cap portion sizes

So the serving size that no one reads on the side of the bag is now half a cookie instead of two cookies in a bag of 100.

2 posted on 07/01/2003 10:21:50 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost)
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Save the cookies!!!
3 posted on 07/01/2003 10:23:31 AM PDT by Dog (They can have my Oreo's from my cold dead hands..)
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"This is an ongoing battle," said Keith Patriquin, a buy-side analyst with Loomis Sayles, which holds shares of Kraft and other big food names. "Trial lawyers ... are looking for the next big thing."

Well they have to bill someone.

The courts are a venue for legal robbery, extortion, and slavery.

It reminds one of Rome.

4 posted on 07/01/2003 10:23:37 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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I can't say that I'm surprised that they caved that quickly...it's rather disappointing. Who knows who could be next on the chopping block?
5 posted on 07/01/2003 10:24:44 AM PDT by Ayn Rand wannabe (Aequitas et Veritas)
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For pete's sake!! It's a COOKIE. It's suppose to be fattening. I'd bet a 'healthy' cookie tastes aweful.

I want my fattening Oreos!!! I want to dunk them in WHOLE milk.

Hey Mom!!! They're messing with the Oreo middle again!!!
6 posted on 07/01/2003 10:26:58 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. – JC Watts)
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Obesity among adults in the United States has doubled since 1980, and tripled among adolescents, according to the U.S. surgeon general.

Redefining the definition of "obesity" had something to do with this.
7 posted on 07/01/2003 10:27:31 AM PDT by dsmatuska
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Stop the world, I want to get off.
8 posted on 07/01/2003 10:28:05 AM PDT by Lost Highway
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Why do I hear the sound of half-full New Coke cans hitting the pavement?
9 posted on 07/01/2003 10:30:11 AM PDT by Old Professer
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They got caught up in a shakedown.

Calling Jesse Jackass, Calling Jesse

we've got a wounded one over here, time to come in for the kill!
11 posted on 07/01/2003 10:30:27 AM PDT by aShepard
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And in five years we can say "they don't taste like they used to".

Somebody's always trying to save me from myself.

Oh well, I guess it won't be long til we'll be swallowing a capsule for food so what will it matter?

14 posted on 07/01/2003 10:31:22 AM PDT by GOP_Proud
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Once again, America, the Land of Victims, the Land of I Am Not At Fault For My Actions - Someone Else Is, the Land of Sue, Sue, Sue; the Land of the Poor; strikes again. We are no longer responsible for what we put in our big mouths, the companies are. Will power? Forget it, you are not responsible. You are not an individual. Fat Ted Kennedy, one who really needs to lay off the cookies and booze, is one of the leaders in the blame game as a whole and not on the individual, should take some advice and shut his trap and lose about 175 pounds. Then maybe he will register on the scales when he gets on. No, we are not responsible. Just forget it. Blame someone else. You are not to blame that your fat ass will not fit inside the back of an extended cab pickup truck. It is the fault of McDonalds or Burger King. You fell for their adds because it was their fault for pushing their products on you. Not your fault because you did not have the will power to not eat that supersized big mac or whopper with triple cheese, cheese covered fat coated french fries, slugged down three shakes, two "diet" cokes (I just love that picture) and then hit the ice cream store on the way out of the mall and had a triple fudge sunday. Nope, not your fat assed fault at all. Blame someone else. Anyone else, but your fat assed self!
15 posted on 07/01/2003 10:31:44 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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I've been opposed to all this junk for awhile. But now I am taking a different tack on it. If Kraft, and McDonald's, etc. cave in and create foods that people don't want then it opens the door for new products from smaller mom and pop businesses. Some of the smaller local gourmet foods makers may have an opportunity to put their real cheeses out and perhaps people will eat real cheese instead of 'processed cheese food'.

Find out what products are made in your State and buy them. Support the small cheese makers and one of your few remaining local hamburger stands.
18 posted on 07/01/2003 10:33:02 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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Geez oh man, it isn't the Oreos or the Velveeta making America fat. It's FReepin all day. I know that's my problem at least.....
20 posted on 07/01/2003 10:34:14 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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Well put. I can't say it's a bad move for Kraft, from a corporate perspective -- they're trying to stay ahead of the insanity curve. Fact is, there ARE changes they could make which would improve nutritional content without harming taste and I believe them when they say that consumer demand -- not wacko lawyers -- is their primary motivation. That's just smart business sense.

Course, you seriously have to wonder about people -- like me -- that eat a lot of Oreos and care to give a fig about their nutritional content. LOL. But that's no doubt what people SAY they want and what people will in the market respond to. So this is market-driven, not lawyer-driven, change.
21 posted on 07/01/2003 10:34:55 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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This story comes from Reuters and not AP.

Also, I thought that Oreo's were made by Nabisco, not Kraft, which, I believe is part of Phillip Morris, not RJR.

Some things don't add up about your post from Yahoo.

23 posted on 07/01/2003 10:36:31 AM PDT by Dane
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If Kraft's products don't taste as good anymore, they'll lose customers to their competitors. I'm sure the food nazis have thought of that and are targetting them now, too.
24 posted on 07/01/2003 10:36:39 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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I personally would not vote for a person who did not try to make calorie free cookies mandatory by state action.
25 posted on 07/01/2003 10:37:27 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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This is absolute proof that people never do anything wrong. Cookies make people fat. Cars run over people and guns kill tnem. Everything inert is to blame. Humanity is innocent!


26 posted on 07/01/2003 10:37:48 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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They blame the snacks and not the video games? Kids are fat today cuz the won't run and play outside but instead sit on their butts playing Playstation.
30 posted on 07/01/2003 10:39:29 AM PDT by stands2reason
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Doesn't Oreo have 1/2 the fat cookies already? I remember seeing them in the store. What else can they do?? NO fat tastes horrible and they have to make up for the taste by putting more sugar in like the Snackwell cookies which are loaded with sugar to make them taste better.
32 posted on 07/01/2003 10:40:24 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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