Canada's 9-11

Envoy Encore ^ | June 21, 2003 | Pete Vere

[Theosis]

I was two-hundred miles from New York City when the terrorists struck the World Trade Center. I never thought I would live throught another event that would so affect the psyche of a nation. And yet, for our American readership, this is exactly what has happened this week as Canada legalizes homosexual marriages.

I spent a good part of the evening talking to various friends from back home – friends from among the Church hierarchy as well as those within the Catholic apologetics and pro-life community. The legalization of so-called homosexual marriages is the only topic on our mind right now. For those who keep tabs on such things, you have probably noticed the personality change among all the Canadians who hang around Envoy Encore. As the shock sets in, we've transformed from our usual laid-back and fun-loving selves into a group of angry and bitter people.

Thus calling this Canada’s Moral September 11th is not melodramatic on my part. I cannot begin to explain the effect this is having on our national psyche. Unlike America which is still fighting the culture war, Canada has now crossed the Tiber back into pagan lands.

[gcruse]

Heheheh. It's a tragedy, I tell ya!

[ckilmer]

No, they were done by legislature which had to repair the mess made by the courts. (brown vs boad of education cause problems rather than repair.)

You're right, I didn't go to law school. But it was the warren courts motions that set school desegregation in motion just as it was roe v wade that enabled abortion. for liberals

The civil rights movement was to enforce laws NOT create them.

while I didn't go to law school I did go to college. This is just sophistry.


Judiacial fiat is a new phenomenon.

No this is the first time you've seen your ox gored.

next time go to law school.

maybe when I was younger. but that time has passed.

[puroresu]

Nature created two genders, male and female. Marriage is the social institution created to celebrate the coming together of the opposite sexes in a natural bond that perpetuates the species. Homosexual "marriage" cheapens the very foundation of this cherished institution.

Homosexuality is a pathology. It is a sickness....a sickness of the body, the mind, and the spirit. Homosexuals are about two percent of the population, yet commit a third of child molestations. See this site for some interesting material:

http://www.narth.com

Male homosexuals are wildly promiscuous, and recognizing their "marriages" won't change that. A better case can be made that "tolerance" of homosexuality increases their promiscuity. When homosexuality is in the closet, with the door slammed shut, homosexuals have to be discrete, and that makes it more difficult for them to find partners. When they do find one, they are a little more likely to stick with them because of the difficulty of finding another one.

"Tolerance" of homosexuality led to the bathhouse subculture that was the catalyst for AIDS spreading like wildfire. Uncloseted homosexuality leads to wild promiscuity. The argument that recognizing their "marriages" will encourage them to settle down is bogus. They can settle down right now if they want to. In fact, they were more settled down back when they had to stay in the closet.

As society grows more "tolerant" of homosexuality, more people are drawn into it. When it's closeted, only the hardest core homosexuals actually carry it out, and even they are forced to limit their number of sex partners for the reasons mentioned above.

Once uncloseted, people with mild homosexual impulses are drawn into the "lifestyle". As sex ed classes, MTV, and Hollywood propagandize in favor of homosexuality and make it appear normal, many confused teens give it a try and become trapped in this pathology. And let's face it, luring in the kids is a major goal of the homosexual lobby, as the war against the Boy Scouts demonstrates.

My prediction for the consequences of legal gay "marriage" after, let's say, ten years:

There will be at least a doubling of homosexual promiscuity.

There will be a doubling of the number of homosexuals committing suicide.

There will be a tripling of the number of minors molested by homosexuals.

There will be radically more restrictions on individual liberties as speech is increasingly restricted to accommodate homosexuals, churches are ordered to perform "gay marriages" or lose their tax exempt status, private organizations are forced to change their moral teachings, etc.

[dsc]

"There are no medical consequences to the homosexual lifesytle...(/s)"

You almost got me. I was ready to slam until I finally saw that little "(/s)" at the end.

[dsc]

You didn't list, "There will be a significant increase in the incidence of SSAD in the population."

[Vote 4 Nixon]

It seems that there is a new socialist bomb shell coming out of Ottawa every week. It is becoming clear that Canada is moving closer to civil war. They need a revolution more than cuba!

[A_perfect_lady]

Comparing gay marriages to 9-11? Yeah, not melodramatic at all. *roll eyes*

Knowing their penchant for "me too-ness", when I saw the title I thought, "What, did a moose stroll onto a highway and cause a traffic pile up?"

[F-117A]

Totally agree with your #6 and #7 posts!

[NYer]

Does it matter to our judicial overlords that marriage predates both Church and State? Or that the vast majority of Canadians oppose extending the definition of marriage to include homosexual couples?  The answer lay in our beloved Maple Leaf, which now symbolizes Canada's role as the red light district of the global village.

The situation in Canada goes well beyond tragic. It is a blight on their beautiful country. Being the largest country to legalize homosexual marriage, it also sets a precedent that other nations will likely follow. Like a plague of locusts, it will spread rapidly, devouring one civilized nation after another.

[RobbyS]

Our judicial overlords do not want to be bound by nature but by the opinions of their upper class peers. Corporations are people but unborn human beings are not. A sexual liason is a marriage even when the basic purpose of marriage, which is child-bearing, is absolutely impossible.

[dsc]

"In Africa, the overwhelming majority of cases are heterosexual."

Those statistics can be quite misleading. If one were to view your statement with no context, one would get the impression that it is being spread from healthy female to healthy male to healthy female...etc.

Such is not the case.

For one thing, in Africa they are diagnosing AIDS entirely without testing for HIV. They can't afford it. So, the presence of a given constellation of symptoms is presumed to signal AIDS. However, other maladies endemic to those regions can produce the same symptoms.

Another factor is the reuse of unsterile medical equipment, also driven by poverty. Some authorities also doubt the integrity of the blood supply. The fact that women are larger consumers of health care in Africa most likely accounts for a good part of the increase in women diagnosed with AIDS.

And a third factor, sorry to bring it up, is that since time immemorial they have preserved the technical virginity of young girls and prevented pregnancy in all ages through the practice of anal intercourse, which is far more likely to transmit the virus than normal intercourse.

So, the fact that a woman shows up with AIDS doesn't necessarily mean she got it from normal heterosexual activity with a man. In some of the cases that are counted towards the "totals," the woman doesn't have HIV at all. In some, she got it through shoddy medical practices. In some, she got it from being buggered. IMO, it just doesn't add up to a surge in "heterosexual AIDS."

[maxwellp]

"Appointed for life". We have the same problem in the USA and it's a policy I do not support. Prayers for Canada and prayers for for the U.S.A.

[Camber-G]

You pretend alot

[longtermmemmory]

(s) If homosexual marriage is allowed to stand, and it naturally follows that ultimatley polygamy has to be allowed. What about polygamous homoseuxal marriages?

It could be an endless marriage for medical care insurance and emplyers could not stop it. They could have their own little pool of sex partners; a group of 1000's all in one marriage. That way marriage is not inconvenient to their lifestyle.(/s)

[puroresu]

It really shows how far we've sunk as a society that gay "marriage" is even being considered. The judicial machinations also show that our "liberal" masters don't care at all what the people think about this issue. They are determined to destroy our cultural heritage by any means necessary.

You're right, there is no logical reason why the courts shouldn't legalize polygamy if they're going to legalize gay "marriage". My guess, though, is that the next stop for the "liberal" agenda will be adult-child sex. The left probably doesn't care much about pushing polygamy since it's associated with conservative religions (Mormons, Islam, Old Testament Judaism), though "gay" polygamy might tweak their interest.

But on the issue of pedophilia, we're right now at about the same point that gay "marriage" was at in 1970. A few radicals are discussing acceptance of it, "liberals" are pushing proposals which, if carried to their logical conclusion, would lead to pedophilia, institutions which go to great efforts to safeguard against pedophilia are coming under attack, etc.

Many current "liberal" proposals actually presuppose acceptance of pedophilia if you think about it. Abortions and contraceptives for minors are good examples. The premise behind providing these things to minors, often with no parental knowledge or consent, is that minors have a "right" to make their own decisions about sexuality. But if that is the case, they're no different than adults in that regard, so why worry if a 42 year old man has a relationship with a 13 year old girl?

The battle against the Boy Scouts shows the same tendency to normalize pedophilia. "Liberals" falsely insist that homosexuals are no more likely than heterosexuals to engage in adult-child relationships. Even if that was true, which it isn't, it would be irrelevant because by definition you are exposing scouts to the risk of molestation by sending them on camping trips with adult homosexuals. Heterosexual males don't have any sexual interest in boys, so even if one has a tendency to "like" kids, it would be girls he likes, not boys.

All indications are that acceptance of pedophilia is the next stop on the "liberal" bandwagon to destroy our culture.

[longtermmemmory]

The next stop is the lowering of age of consent. The companion to this is the decriminalization of age of consent to adult age sex. In other words right now if the age of consent is 16, you can still be charged with other sex crimes until the child reaches 18. (deliquency, improper sexual conduct etc.) Homosexuals are pushing to lower the age as part of their access program. It is vital for homosexuals to forcebly label confused children as early as possible. This way the children can be stigmatized early. Its why homosexuals should not be allowed access to school children.

[NYer]

From the Envoy Magazine blog ...

[Update: This blog entry has sparked a fierce debate over at FreeRepublic.  I want to thank the American Freepers who understand that no disrespect is intended towards the victims of 9-11, and who have taken up the keyboard in defense of myself and other Canadian conservatives, and more importantly the traditional understanding of marriage, while Canadian conservatives are trying to come to grips with the death of democracy at the hands of judicial fiat.  May God bless America as He weeps over what is taking place in Canada]

[Antoninus]

Equating the shock of homosexual marriage in Canada to the World Trade Center attacks in America is revolting....The Taliban are here, and they are no longer Arabic.

And yet the homo-promo types have no problem comparing those who think sodomy is vile and disgusting to the Taliban. You are a walking, talking, posting contradiction. Get over yourself.

[Antoninus]

Uhm, if you are married and have syphilis, then only you and your wife will have it. If you cannot get married and have syphilis, you polygamous love life will spread syphilis far and wide. See why marriage might be better?

Give me a rough estimate as to how many homosexual "married" couples you think will remain monogamous for any length of time -- say a year. My suspicion is that it would be in the low single digits.

If this is the case, it kind of blows your scenario away, doesn't it?

Homos have known that sodomy is a primary cause of AIDS for years, but it hasn't stemmed the tide. If knowing that having indescriminate anal sex could KILL you didn't stop them, what makes you think a little thing like a phony marriage vow would?

[gcruse]

My suspicion is that it would be in the low single digits.
If this is the case, it kind of blows your scenario away, doesn't it?

Heheh.  The only thing your suspicions blow is....never mind.