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An INSANE situation up in Waltham, Massachusetts
Conservative Alerts.Com ^ | Chuck Muth

Posted on 06/16/2003 3:21:35 PM PDT by webber

An INSANE situation up in Waltham, Massachusetts

This one's so Outrageous, it makes our blood boil just to think of it. Take a look at his message:

ISSUE: Kim and George Bryant have been home-schooling their two kids, George (15) and Nyssa (13), much to the chagrin of the Waltham Public School (WPS) system. The Bryants thus far have refused to force their children to take a government-mandated standardized test to assess their education level.

The WPS empire struck back last year, obtaining a court order giving custody of the kids to the Department of Social Services (DSS), which ever since has been threatening to take the kids away from their parents.

As the MetroWest Daily News reported on Friday, "Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001." They were ruled to be "unfit" for not filing educational plans with the government.

Unfit. For not filing paperwork. With the government school system. Over the education of their OWN children.

In fact, George Bryant was actually ARRESTED six years ago for failing to comply with the government's dictates over the home-schooled education of HIS children.

Arrested!!...Thrown in jail!!...Like a criminal!!...For taking personal responsibility for the education of HIS kids.

This six-year legal battle exploded on Thursday as bureaucrats from the DSS showed up at the Bryants' home with police escorts at 7:45 a.m. and attempted to remove the children from their home and force them to take the mandated tests.

Once again, the Bryants told the government agents to pound dirt, resulting in a seven-hour standoff.

"This has been a six-year battle between the Waltham Public Schools and our family over who is in control of the education of our children," said Bryant.

How DARE these parents stand up to the government and defend their right to raise their children as they see fit? Who do they think they are?

At least, that's the attitude of one outrageous government bureaucrat involved in this brouhaha. "We have the legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS trooper Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants Thursday morning. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

It is near impossible to describe the rage I feel inside every time I read those chilling words. WE will do with them as WE see fit. They do what WE tell them to do.

The sheer audacity of a bureaucrat to make such a statement about someone else's children who are in no way abused in any shape, form or fashion is beyond comprehension to me.

Comrade Etscovitz maintained on Thursday that, "No one wants these children to be put in foster homes. The best course of action would be for (the Bryants) to instruct the children to take the test."

One can just imagine her words being delivered with a thick East German accent: "undt now, all vee need eez dee kidz!"

This isn't about education. It's about control. It's about an imperial government trying to crush a movement in its infancy which could one day spell the end of the public school monopoly over our kids' educations.

Home-schooling means children might start learning again. REAL learning. Not "whole language" and "self-esteem." Learning about radical notions such as freedom, liberty and personal responsibility. Notions such as limited government and the Constitution and the vision of our Founding Fathers.

Yeah, we can't have THAT!

ACTION ITEM: As it appears that DSS is getting its marching orders from the Waltham Public Schools, it seems the best place to start is with the School Superintendent there. Her name is Dr. Susan Parrella. She can be reached via email at:

parrellas@k12.waltham.ma.us
or by phone at:
(781) 314-5400
or fax at:
(781) 314-5411.

Emails are great... but nothing quite ruins a bureaucrat's day like dealing with a flood of phone calls. I know. I just called. The woman who answered the phone hung up on me when she found out what I was calling about. They do NOT want to answer any questions about this.

Oh, and by the way. I reached Ms. Etscovitz this morning. She was not a happy camper once she found out what I was calling about. Refused to comment on her "we will do with them as we see fit" statement, saying only, "I'm terminating this conversation now," before slamming the phone down.

I think it would really bug her if a lot of people called (781) 641-8500, so please, please don't rattle her cage, OK? That number not to call again to reach Susan Etscovitz is (781) 641-8500. That's (781) 641-8500. (You could also fax her at 781-648-6909.)

-- Chuck Muth, ConservativeAlerts.Com


We normally set up a website with a pre-written letter to Congress, etc. However, we thought it would be much more effective for our members to make contact as described above, in their own words. If you get a response you'd like to share, be sure to drop us a note. As this issue develops and is "bumped up the ladder" of responsibility, we'll let you know who to contact next.

NOTE: The situation in Waltham has gotten WAY out of hand.

Outraged Americans across the country need to contact these bureaucrats NOW to express their outrage and demand they do the RIGHT thing. Be sure to forward this email to everyone you know who wants to help save parental choice in America, starting in Massachusetts. p> Thank you!

--Chuck Muth, ConservativeAlerts.Com




TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 18uscs242; homeschoollist
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1 posted on 06/16/2003 3:21:35 PM PDT by webber
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To: webber; *Homeschool_list
Bookmark bump to make some phone calls ...
2 posted on 06/16/2003 3:26:35 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: webber
Previous Thread
3 posted on 06/16/2003 3:29:45 PM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: webber
I would mostly agree with this. I guess at some point, if the parents so desire, they would take some sort of standarized test to assess where their kids are in relation to other kids of their age. But, nobody should be able to force them to do it, if they don't want to.
4 posted on 06/16/2003 3:30:44 PM PDT by rs79bm (The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit ... R. Limbaugh)
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To: coloradan
I've had it with these nut cases.
Do you know that society has an interest in everyone vacinating their children? Can you handle that?
Also education. Is that too oppressive? Just take the standardized tests and shut up!
But no, people want to thumb their noses at society, the society that provides safety and decent neighbors, and police and fire departments, and then all of FR has to mail endless petitions for someone to have the luxury of living in the US and flaunting the few obligations put on a parent, by the state, for his child.
(Home schooling, yes, answering to no one, no.)
5 posted on 06/16/2003 3:34:28 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Sarah
It takes a village, eh Sarah?
6 posted on 06/16/2003 3:40:26 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: webber
They should really consider getting the heck out of Massachussetts at some point. Its no place for a free person to live.
7 posted on 06/16/2003 3:42:02 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: webber
Interesting situation. One the one hand, we don't want "the state" especially as represented by social workers to decide to just take custody of kids because they don't like the fact that the parents haven't had their kids take a standardized test. On the other hand, we don't want some nut cases deciding that home schooling means they can keep their kids pig ignorant so that all they are fit for when they are adults is welfare and crime.

While I am in no way sympathetic with the state, most home schoolers are happy to take standardized test because they consistently show how much better educated they are than the publicly schooled kids. And face facts -- if you want to get into college after home schooling (well, the vast majority of colleges especially if you want to pursue a real degree) you are going to have to take standardized tests to get in.

To take the position that homeschoolers are exempt from standardized testing (which is the least intrusive way for a state to determine that, yes, the kids are actually being educated instead of watching the cartoon channel all day) is like saying "heck, I'm a good driver, I don't need no stinkin' license, so I ain't gonna get one!" Well, yeah, maybe you are a good driver, and maybe you aren't, but if you are going to be on the roads with the rest of us we would like more than just your word on it!

8 posted on 06/16/2003 3:46:39 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: webber
This isn't about education. It's about control.

Not quite. It's about control of education, and as you correctly note, the minds of children. The fascists are getting anxious, since these matters have to be decided one way or another for society as a whole soon. The educrat statists know the jig is up.
9 posted on 06/16/2003 3:49:09 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: webber
Seeing as private school students do not have to take these tests in Massachusetts, it is beyond bizarre that this can happen. The parents should maybe connect with a private school and do the homestudy through them. Or, maybe a clever lawyer could get the parents defined as a private school.

I think there might be something in the home-school laws that gives the schools some rights to test the students and some obligations to let those students be involved in activities and maybe some courses. The testing goes both ways. There have been school systems that have been seriously embarrassed when home schooled students get the best grades on Iowas.

10 posted on 06/16/2003 3:49:28 PM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: webber
Let the lines be drawn. Thsoe who step across deserve what is coming to them.


11 posted on 06/16/2003 3:54:40 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
A village of completely self absorbed people trying to prove some idiotic point, ignoring all the good they receive from others, to ruin a society, yes.
12 posted on 06/16/2003 3:55:27 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: dark_lord
The government has no business assuming that the parents won't educate their children, therefore has no need for a "least intrusive" test.

If we don't assume basic good will and competency of most citizens, we assume a nation fit only for rule by an elite.

13 posted on 06/16/2003 3:55:42 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Sarah
Just take the standardized tests and shut up!

And they let you vote ....

It's not about the tests anymore .... it's about the freedom to live your life away from a government intervention. I'm sure those kids can ace the tests.

The Amish don't go to public school and take stupid government tests; why can Mass. just leave them alone ?

Come to think of it, if I were these people I'd get the hell out of dodge.

14 posted on 06/16/2003 3:57:09 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Freedom4US
The educrat statists know the jig is up.

Hardly. They have just started to raise one eyelid just one millimeter.

Watch out if they even begin to feel threatened.

15 posted on 06/16/2003 3:58:53 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Sarah
Society this, society that....you might be a...SOCIALIST!
Do you know that what makes America great and unique is the concept of INDIVIDUAL freedoms and rights?
16 posted on 06/16/2003 4:00:23 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: Sarah
Yes, so much good flows from the arms of government. Those ingrates have no appreciation of all the positive ways that bureaucrats can come into your home and make your lives better.
17 posted on 06/16/2003 4:01:49 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: rs79bm
The standaradized test that the Ultra-left school board would require the kids to take would cause them to flunk the test and thus showing in writing that the parents are unfit to teach their kids. The Ultra Liberal Public school system will pack their tests with PC questions, which of course home schooled children would answer "Incorrectly" in the view of the "Pubic Skoo Sistum".
18 posted on 06/16/2003 4:05:48 PM PDT by webber (For Tyranny to exists, only takes good men to do nothing.)
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To: webber
My wife and I home schooled both our daughters. We faced this same question and so we understand the reasons or fears behind home school parents not wanting their kids to take such standardized government tests (getting on a government list of some sort to later to be used for who know what purpose).

That said, it would be better for the kids if their parents side stepped the issue and had them independently tested/certified (what thousands of other homeshoolers do every year)....and live to fight another day on larger questions. Just because the government sees fit to use kids as political fodder, it does not mean parents should.
19 posted on 06/16/2003 4:10:37 PM PDT by kimoajax
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To: webber
Any good home school parent should teach their kids how to lie on such tests. Tests are not given under penalty of purjury. In the end, what is the higher value? Being right or effective?
20 posted on 06/16/2003 4:13:05 PM PDT by kimoajax
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