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Mount Sinai Was A Volcano In Saudi Arabia, Says Scientist (Exodus)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-13-2003 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 06/12/2003 6:15:39 PM PDT by blam

Mount Sinai was volcano in Saudi Arabia, says scientist

By Roger Highfield Science Editor
(Filed: 13/06/2003)

Mount Sinai, where Scripture says Moses received God's Law, is located in Saudi Arabia, not Egypt's Sinai Peninsula - moving a key site for Judaism into the nation where Islam was founded, according to a Cambridge professor.

Science also backs traditional beliefs that the Israelites' exodus from Egypt was led by Moses, roughly the way that the Bible tells it, according to Prof Colin Humphreys of Cambridge University.

Prof Humphreys, a churchgoing Baptist and materials scientist, outlines his ideas in his forthcoming book: The Miracles of Exodus: A Scientist's Discovery of the Extraordinary Natural Causes of the Biblical Stories.

While other scholars have proposed that Sinai was in Arabia, Prof Humphreys argues that the holy mount must have been an active volcano, since it shook and emitted fire and smoke (Exodus 19:18). And he has carefully examined records ancient and modern to fix the site.

His candidate: present-day Mount Bedr in north-western Saudi Arabia, since there were no ancient volcanoes in what was later named the Sinai Peninsula.

Prof Humphreys also thinks that near Mount Bedr, Moses experienced God's call at the "burning bush". He suggests that this was caused by flammable natural gas or volcanic gas escaping from the ground.

The Book of Exodus obviously underwent later editing, he said, but the evidence strongly suggests witness material that might well come from Moses himself. The book is "amazingly accurate and coherent", he said.

Prof Humphreys also offers other "naturalistic" explanations for wondrous events. For instance, he thinks that escalating natural disasters explain each of the 10 "plagues" that forced Pharaoh to let the Israelite slaves depart. The Nile "turned to blood" meant that toxic red algae killed fish, the dead fish forced frogs ashore, gnats and flies were drawn to the dead fish and frogs and the insects transmitted a virus that killed livestock.


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To: VaBthang4
Thanks. Now, I see them. LOL
21 posted on 06/12/2003 7:44:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Science also backs traditional beliefs that the Israelites' exodus from Egypt was led by Moses, roughly the way that the Bible tells it, according to Prof Colin Humphreys of Cambridge University.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! Was that Moses Malone?

22 posted on 06/12/2003 7:44:39 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: VaBthang4
Why is adding maps not taking responsibility for my actions? The maps are relevant to the text. I don't like to publicly post my views of historical relevance versus religious relevance of the bible. I'm not transparent on FreeRepublic.
23 posted on 06/12/2003 7:45:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: blam
Science also backs traditional beliefs that the Israelites' exodus from Egypt was led by Moses, roughly the way that the Bible tells it

This is simply nonsense.

There are born-again scientists who accept the Bible as revealed Truth but their beliefs are scarsely based on their science. There are a host of Doctors of Theology out of podunk Bible colleges traveling around the revival circuit. Most hard-nosed trained Egyptologists just try to avoid the issue since it is so loaded and can effect funding.

If the Exodus occurred the Egyptians of the period were unaware of it, despite that 2 1/2 million out of a population of 3 1/2 to 5 million left the country. There is not one reference to it anywhere in all the 500,000 papyri in museums or on stone. Scholars who do discuss it in detail think that the story is a folk memory rewriting the Hyksos episode (at least many do).

24 posted on 06/12/2003 7:47:18 PM PDT by Seti 1
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To: blam
The Book of Exodus obviously underwent later editing

Ya think? Did the Parting of the Red Sea happen, or is it some kind of code?

25 posted on 06/12/2003 7:48:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: Seti 1
There is no record of it. It would be wonderful if there were some documentation of the Exodus. The Egyptians liked to brag about everything they did militarily, even if the campaign wasn't so great.

There should be something along the lines of "The great Pharoah chased the Jews out of the country. The Gods were pleased with the cleansing of the country"

Something, anything. If there is a scroll, an inscription, anything in Egypt that suggests a couple million people took off, I would like to know about it.

26 posted on 06/12/2003 7:52:49 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Seti 1
After centuries of scoffing and ridicule, many "folk memory" tales in the Bible have been proven to be valid and accurate. None have ever been disproved. The reason for this is everything in the Bible is absolutely true.
27 posted on 06/12/2003 7:53:35 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Seti 1
"Scholars who do discuss it in detail think that the story is a folk memory rewriting the Hyksos episode (at least many do)."

...or, that the fleeing numbers were much smaller.

Also, I believe that the Exodus occured in 1628BC when the volcano Santorina blew its top. This could have provided all the fireworks, famines and earthquakes and a tsunami into the Red Sea. The Red Sea was land locked at the end of the Ice Age and my have broken through due to the earthquakes, etc.

Tree rings indicate a worldwide catastrophic event at this time, maybe the people doing all the recording in Egypt didn't survive, huh?

28 posted on 06/12/2003 7:59:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: Cedric
Ezekial 4:12-15

This is true? God does this?

29 posted on 06/12/2003 7:59:46 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: blam
Is there any evidence then of a break in continuity of the Egyptian empire during the time of the exodus?

I think the numbers are cooked in some cases but do detail events. When they talk about battles with 500,000 killed with primitive weapons, there weren't 500,000 killed in Iraq with heavy ordinance over many days. But who knows?

30 posted on 06/12/2003 8:01:43 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: RightWhale
"Ya think? Did the Parting of the Red Sea happen, or is it some kind of code?"

Don't have any data or an opinion on the editing of Exodus. I do believe the Red Sea (or something very close to it) parted.

Code?

31 posted on 06/12/2003 8:02:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: Seti 1
The bit about there not being any mention of it anywhere in Egyptian history is of little affect as it is well known that Egyptian Pharoahs doctored the history of Egypt and previous Pharoahs...even to the point of taking credit for previous conquests, buildings etc etc....I'm pretty sure such a trmendous defeat at the hands of slaves would be enough to try and cover up or erase any mention of what occured.

I have a book that documents alot of these actions and the Pharoahs that had committed a whole host of transgressions that were attempts to mislead posterity. Unfortunately....I think I left it in Richmond this weekend.

Israel's enemies have a long and distinguished history of completely fabricating or erasing history that doesnt flow with their own lie.

32 posted on 06/12/2003 8:03:02 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: dogbyte12
Yep.
33 posted on 06/12/2003 8:03:41 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: blam
If you make the code public, there is some kind of committee that comes to your house and soaps your windows. So I can say no more.
34 posted on 06/12/2003 8:06:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: RightWhale
the Bible code demonstrates the unfathomable intellect of the Bible author.
35 posted on 06/12/2003 8:07:44 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: dogbyte12
"The Egyptians liked to brag about everything they did militarily, even if the campaign wasn't so great."

A great example of that is from the six day war. Immediately following Israel's initial airstrikes that completely destroyed Egypt's Air Force, all of Egypt's state run newspapers, tv & radio stations were regalling the people with tales of rebuffing the assault and shooting down 80% of Israel's jets.

Egyptians were dancing in the streets and shouting for more...little did they know, flies were the most lethal weapons left in Egypt's air arsenal....and Nasser sulked in his room for days.

Examples of this sort of lack of humility and subterfuge from people in the Middle East goes on and on and spans back for thousands of years. We all know it....individuals with an agenda try and hustle their way around it.

36 posted on 06/12/2003 8:11:35 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: RightWhale
LOL
37 posted on 06/12/2003 8:12:09 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: dogbyte12
Arguments for a 1628BC Exodus here
38 posted on 06/12/2003 8:13:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
His candidate: present-day Mount Bedr in north-western Saudi Arabia, since there were no ancient volcanoes in what was later named the Sinai Peninsula.

If the Muslims can claim Jerusalem and all of Israel by saying (with straight faces) that Mohammed "ascended to heaven on a winged horse above Al Quds [Jerusalem]" (note that this silliness is not mentioned at all in the Koran)....then surely the Jews can claim all of Saudi Arabia using this far more scientific method as their proof.

ISRAEL...ANNEX SAUDI ARABIA NOW!

39 posted on 06/12/2003 8:20:34 PM PDT by montag813
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To: blam
How typical of jihadists in saudi to attempt to claim a mandate they have neither been given, nor taken responsibility for.
40 posted on 06/12/2003 8:25:38 PM PDT by ChadGore (Piss off a liberal: Hire Someone.)
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