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'Gay Jesus' Claim Draws Fire
CNSNews.com ^ | 5/29/03 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 05/29/2003 2:42:55 AM PDT by kattracks

Pacific Rim Bureau (CNSNews.com) - A homosexual Australian theologian researching a new field of study dubbed "gay spirituality" has come to the conclusion that Jesus and some of his disciples were homosexuals.

Christians Thursday called the claim "preposterous" and "offensive," and suggested the researcher's own homosexual lifestyle affected his academic credibility.

Rollan McCleary on Thursday was awarded a Ph.D. for what the University of Queensland says is a "world first" thesis, after three years of research funded by Australian taxpayers.

The British-born Australian has a book coming out next month called Signs for a Messiah, which explores "the theological implications of the sexuality of Jesus."

McCleary also is an astrologer who has written about Pope John Paul II's horoscope -- and his research looks into matters such as the "star in the east" that drew the Magi or wise men to Jesus' birthplace in Bethlehem.

In a telephonic interview Thursday as he headed for his graduation ceremony, McCleary conceded that his views were controversial, but insisted they were accurate.

He uses Jesus' "astrological chart" -- the planet Uranus figures prominently, as in the case with many homosexuals, he says -- and argues that there are clues in the Bible to back up his views.

In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as "the disciple whom Jesus loved." McCleary thinks this is highly significant.

Asked whether he considered himself a Christian, McCleary replied: "I'm an Anglican, yes."

He strongly rejected the suggestion that his research might be biased because of his own homosexual lifestyle.

"You could see that either way. You could also say that heterosexual people have their eyes wide shut on the matter, that they don't want to see that Jesus would have been of gay disposition.

"You maybe have to be gay to read the signals and to see things and research things which other people wouldn't," he added.

A century ago, McCleary said, those with influence in Christianity were promoting a "muscular Christianity."

"They were even asking artists to portray a very rugged Jesus. They wanted almost a footballer [figure] to fit in with the American ideal of the times. So heterosexuals can also project their ideas onto Jesus quite as much as gay people."

He claimed his research and forthcoming book, being based on both astrology and theology, were "the nearest we can get ... to real objectivity on this."

'Abomination'


Christians opposed to the homosexual lifestyle generally base their stance on two Biblical passages.

In the Old Testament, God tells the people of Israel: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).

In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul writes about "men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due" (Romans 1:27).

Asked about these texts, McCleary said references in the Scriptures to homosexuality were misunderstood or taken out of context.

"In those days they didn't have kind of concept of homosexuality as an identity such as we have it," he argued. "It has much more to do with other factors in society ... homosexuality was associated with idolatrous practices."

In the case of Paul's writings, he continued, "does everybody agree with St. Paul on slavery [or] on women wearing hats? There is such a thing as historical context."

Far from homosexuality being incompatible with Christianity, McCleary believes homosexuals have a particular inclination towards spirituality.

Homosexuals were historically used in priestly and shamanic roles, as "their nature brought them closer to divinity," he said.

Homosexuals were regarded by researchers as being "more inclined to ecstasy, they search for ecstatic experiences more, and religion has traditionally been one way of getting towards the ecstatic."

It wasn't by coincidence, he said, that in an age of declining church attendance, women and homosexuals "do tend to be there and to be supporting it."

McCleary rejected concerns about the fact he received 51,000 Australian dollars ($33,000) of public funding for his research.

"I gather some may feel resentful that such a -- to them -- way out subject was being funded, but nobody had done work on that subject. It's kind of a world first," he said.

"When I consider some of the astonishing doctorates some people do on the remotest subjects -- whereas I was dealing with a topical, relevant subject -- I really don't see how anybody could have objections [to the funding]."

Jesus' love for John


Jenny Stokes, research director for a Christian ethical action group in Australia called Saltshakers, said Thursday "the preposterous claim that Jesus was homosexual is offensive to all Christians."

She questioned the reliability of McCleary's academic research, saying it was "biased from the start since he openly acknowledges he is homosexual."

"It is one thing for homosexuals to do research into their own lifestyle," Stokes said. "However, it is a very different matter when universities - and taxpayers - are paying for research into such questionable and offensive topics. Research that is funded by taxpayers must not be based on personal bias."

Stokes also challenged McCleary's view on the disciple John.

In Greek, the original language of the New Testament, there are four words for love -- agape (spiritual, unconditional love), eros (erotic love), philia (love between friends) and storge (familial love.)

Stokes pointed out that all of the references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" use the word "agape."

"The Bible maintains that the only approved sexual activity is within a marriage between a man and a woman and that homosexuality is wrong," she said.

"Trying to show that the Bible doesn't say that is distorting the clear meaning of Scripture. One has to ask if Mr. McCleary is investigating this topic to justify his own behavior."

Other academics have explored this controversial territory. Theology professor Theodore Jennings of the Chicago Theological Seminary has a new book out called "The Man Jesus Loved: Homoerotic Narratives From the New Testament."

According to a review of the book on a seminary bookshop website, the author "argues that the Bible affirms and even celebrates homosexual relationships."

The Chicago Theological Seminary website says Jennings, a Methodist, "helped initiate the gay and lesbian studies program" at the seminary.

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KEYWORDS: abomination; antichristian; asstrology; astrology; homosexualagenda; looneyleft; nutjob
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1 posted on 05/29/2003 2:42:55 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Rollan McCleary on Thursday was awarded a Ph.D. for what the University of Queensland

Well, that figures... :)

2 posted on 05/29/2003 2:45:38 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("This is how six-year-olds argue: they call everything 'stupid'." --Coulter, on liberals)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I don't think the homosexual community is above doing anything to legitimize their status. If Sodom and Gomorah were truly destroyed by God for their evil, I can understand why. Absolutely nothing seems sacred for the most visible of those who participate in this lifestyle.
3 posted on 05/29/2003 2:51:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
astrological chart" -- the planet Uranus (Your Anus) figures prominently, as in the case with many homosexuals, he says

This is like something out of the Onion...

4 posted on 05/29/2003 3:15:34 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: kattracks
Can anybody out there document WHEN the word gay started to mean homosexual and not happy ???? as well as why THIS word was used ? I'm serious about this inquisition .
5 posted on 05/29/2003 3:15:58 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: kattracks
Clever title choice. It could possibly draw fire forever and ever amen.
6 posted on 05/29/2003 3:26:23 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: AmericaUnited
Has not astrological "science" as this fool is practicing, been discredited, say 500 years ago? This is NOT academic study, it is witch craft. I say burn the sucker at the stake. We got rid of this punishment, why?

Another abuse of the taxpayer for personal gain and ambition. Not happy to see it takes place there, too.

8 posted on 05/29/2003 3:35:18 AM PDT by Tin-Legions
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To: kattracks; Alamo-Girl; Gal.5:1; Commander8; fortheDeclaration; ksen; editor-surveyor
Ping.......

Pacific Rim Bureau (CNSNews.com) - A homosexual Australian theologian researching a new field of study dubbed "gay spirituality" has come to the conclusion that Jesus and some of his disciples were homosexuals.

This 'serpent' lie,.....again,....another 'product' of Darwin/Pagan teaching of 'Evolution'.

(The Pervert's Philosophy)

Maranatha!

2nd Thessalonians 1:1-12

(Romans 10:17)

9 posted on 05/29/2003 3:44:40 AM PDT by maestro
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Another friggin' pervert professor.
10 posted on 05/29/2003 3:53:01 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Another friggin' pervert professor.
11 posted on 05/29/2003 3:53:02 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: kattracks
In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as "the disciple whom Jesus loved." McCleary thinks this is highly significant.

That's it? That's the sum total of his evidence?

...research funded by Australian taxpayers... he received 51,000 Australian dollars ($33,000) of public funding for his research.

Well, it's obvious, to me at least, the Australian taxpayers got screwed!

12 posted on 05/29/2003 3:56:38 AM PDT by libertylover (Clinton jeopardized national security by allowing himself to be blackmailed over Monica.)
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To: Renegade
The earliest reference I have seen, I remember because it was rather suprising...The Three Stooges were in drag singing "Deck the Halls" and when they came to the line "now we don our 'gay' apparel" they all three mugged and went falsetto and aped feminine.

I fell outta my chair...

13 posted on 05/29/2003 4:10:16 AM PDT by Churchjack
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To: kattracks
... "astrological chart" -- the planet Uranus figures prominently, as in the case with many homosexuals, he says ... Why do I find this extrodinariliy funny?
14 posted on 05/29/2003 4:26:34 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Renegade
I have always preferred the term Light in the Loafers
15 posted on 05/29/2003 4:27:45 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
I have always preferred the term Light in the Loafers

I had a Grandfather that called them A Sweet Evening Breeze

I have also heard Up Hill Gardner

16 posted on 05/29/2003 4:57:20 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: maestro
Pacific RIM Bureau.
17 posted on 05/29/2003 5:17:13 AM PDT by tal hajus (I)
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To: libertylover
In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as "the disciple whom Jesus loved." McCleary thinks this is highly significant.

In the Old Testament, God tells the people of Israel: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).

In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul writes about "men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due" (Romans 1:27).

So let me get this straight (no pun intended). This crackpot is rejecting two point-of-fact scriptures in favor of his inference of another to support his claim.

18 posted on 05/29/2003 5:46:28 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: kattracks
He uses Jesus' "astrological chart" -- the planet Uranus figures prominently, as in the case with many homosexuals, he says

'Fess up. You really got this from The Onion, right?

19 posted on 05/29/2003 7:04:02 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: maestro
Jeepers... Thanks for the heads up!
20 posted on 05/29/2003 7:07:47 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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