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Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma - AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns
The Dallas Morning News ^ | May 14, 2003 | By GEORGE KUEMPEL and PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 05/14/2003 5:34:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma

AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns in redistricting standoff

05/14/2003

By GEORGE KUEMPEL and PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Neither side budged in the Red River redistricting standoff Tuesday, a second day of insults and indignation lobbed between Republicans and 51 House Democrats holed up in Oklahoma.

The Democrats, who fled to shut down the House on Monday in protest of a proposed Republican redistricting plan, defended their actions in a news conference outside their haven, the Holiday Inn in Ardmore, Okla.

"We have a message for Tom DeLay: Don't mess with Texas," said Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco, the Democratic caucus chairman who has emerged as a ringleader of the rebel efforts.

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He warned Mr. DeLay, the U.S. House majority leader, that the Democrats would not return to Austin to allow debate of the redistricting plan, which is on the agenda largely because of his efforts.

Mr. Dunnam said the members agreed to stay at least until midnight Thursday – the session's deadline for introducing legislation such as the redistricting bill.

"We decided yesterday that we were going to stay as long as it takes. ... It would take about two minutes if the Republican leadership makes the right decision," said Mr. Dunnam, who called the GOP response to the crisis "cowardly."

In Washington, Mr. DeLay, R-Sugar Land, chided the "fugitive Democrats" and defended the redistricting proposal, which he said would better reflect the way Texans vote by redrawing districts to create at least four more safe seats for Republicans in the U.S. House.

House Speaker Tom Craddick, who has labeled the missing Democrats "chickens," noted that Republicans never fled from redistricting battles. "Two years ago the Republicans could have walked and ... we didn't do it," he said in Austin. "We didn't run and hide, and that's what they are doing."

Mr. Craddick said the hour of death is near for some major state legislation, including bills designed to raise much-needed cash. Until at least two-thirds of the 150 House members return to achieve a quorum, no business can be conducted.

"We killed over $630 million worth of revenue measures ... [needed] to help the state of Texas in balancing the budget," he said.

One of the rebellious Democrats, Rep. Steve Wolens of Dallas, said that despite the fervent talk, there's plenty of time for the Legislature to accomplish critical business. Even if Thursday passes, Mr. Dunnam agreed, the House can vote to suspend that deadline and consider bills.

Mr. Wolens likened the walkout to other parliamentary maneuvers used routinely to kill legislation. For instance, under Senate rules, any bloc of 11 members can prevent a bill from being considered.

"Rome isn't burning, and the Legislature's not going away," he said, adding that redistricting is always among the most divisive issues. "We get past these things all the time."

While the crisis would end if one or two of the Democrats in Ardmore switched sides and returned to Austin, there were no rumbles about any defections around the normally gossipy halls of the statehouse.

Speaker Pro Tem Sylvester Turner of Houston, one of the House Democrats who stayed, asked Mr. Craddick to pull the redistricting bill from the calendar so the House could move on to more pressing matters, such as the state budget.

"Congressional redistricting is not a must-do thing," Mr. Turner said. "The budget is No. 1."

The attempt to force the runaways back to Austin at the hands of Texas Department of Public Safety troopers appeared to have stalled. The DPS said it has no jurisdiction in Oklahoma – or the signatures of judges required of traditional criminal arrest warrants – to serve the "arrest warrants" drawn up by Mr. Craddick's staff based on House rules.

Likewise, a bid for federal intervention failed. A spokesman for state Attorney General Greg Abbott said First Assistant Attorney General Barry McBee had inquired about federal assistance, at the request of Mr. Craddick's office.

The spokesman said Mr. McBee had not heard back, but federal officials in Washington said there was no basis for the Justice Department to get involved. "That's a state matter," said Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez in Washington.

As the standoff dragged on, DPS officers at the Holiday Inn in Ardmore remained friendly with their would-be quarry.

"They're just kind of hanging out," Mr. Wolens said. "They said, 'If you'd like, we'd be happy to accompany you back to Austin,' " Mr. Wolens said. "We did what Nancy Reagan said to do. We just said, 'No.' "

Mr. Dunnam said that the Democrats are paying for the trip with their own money and that they've agreed to forfeit their $124 daily state allowance until the imbroglio is resolved.

Gov. Rick Perry said Tuesday that there's still time for Democrats and Republicans to work out their differences and noted that he's waiting for important legislation that can't cross his desk until the House deals with it.

"With less than three weeks left in this legislative session, legislators have yet to send me a balanced budget, meaningful homeowners insurance reform that lowers rates and a medical malpractice bill that will protect patients' care in Texas," he said.

"It's unfortunate they would run and hide rather than stay and fight for their constituents," Mr. Perry said.

State GOP leaders argued Tuesday that the concentration of Democrats in Ardmore could constitute a quorum of certain House committees, in violation of the Texas Open Meetings Act. State Republican Chairman Susan Weddington said it was outrageous that the missing lawmakers are not subject to legal sanctions.

Democrats deny they are conducting any House business.

Staff writers Matt Stiles in Ardmore, Okla., Robert T. Garrett in Austin and Michelle Mittelstadt and David Jackson in Washington contributed to this report.

E-mail gkuempel@dallasnews.com

and pslover@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/051403dntexstandoff.1c516.html


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: awol; crybabies; democrats; idiots; runawayrats; stooges; texas
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Democrat bolters shut down Texas
By Phillip Coorey in New York
15may03

MORE than 50 Texan politicians are wanted by police after fleeing the state to prevent the local parliament from passing legislation they believe is "undemocratic, unjust and unprecedented".

In one of the more bizarre moments in American political history, 51 Democrat state politicians fled across the border to Ardmore, Oklahoma on Tuesday and are holed up in a hotel there, refusing to return to the state capital Austin.

Their absence means the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, the Texan lower house which has 150 lawmakers, cannot gather the minimum 100 votes required for a quorum and, therefore, cannot sit. A rough Australian equivalent would be the NSW Liberal Opposition fleeing to Victoria to paralyse the state parliament and prevent the Carr Labor Government from passing legislation.

The Texan Democrats oppose a Republican Bill which would redistribute federal electoral boundaries in the state.

They say if the Bill were passed, the Democrats would lose at least five seats in Congress.

The Bill must be voted on by tomorrow when the current parliamentary session ends.

The Republicans also control the Texan Senate, meaning if the legislature was able to sit, the Bill would pass in both houses.

Incensed Republicans called in the police and the Texas Rangers, but the law enforcers' jurisdiction does not extend across the state border and they cannot touch the Democrats.

The officers are authorised to seize and return the Democrats to Austin if they re-enter Texas.

In a statement issued from the Oklahoma hotel yesterday, the Democrats say that under state law, federal electoral boundaries are redrawn every 10 years and the last redistribution was only two years ago, in 2001.

"We do redistricting every 10 years, not whenever those in power demand it," they said, and blamed powerful Texan Republican Congressman Tom DeLay as being behind the Bill.

Texan Republican Governor Rick Perry called the rebels "cowardly and childish" while Republican MPs pasted faces of their missing colleagues on milk cartons and joked about releasing a pack of cards bearing their images.

Mr DeLay called the rebels disloyal to their state.

"I have never turned tail and run. Even when I'm losing, I stand and fight for what I believe. It's so Texas contrary," he said.

At last year's mid-term elections, the Republicans took control for the first time in 130 years.

The State lower house has 88 republicans and 62 Democrats. Texas has 32 federal House of Representatives seats, of which the Republicans hold 15 and the Democrats 17. One of the rebellious Democrats, Steve Wolens of Dallas, rejected allegations that critical business was being held over.

He likened the walkout to other parliamentary manoeuvres used to routinely kill legislation: for instance, under Senate rules, any bloc of 11 members can prevent a Bill from being considered.

A spokesman for state Attorney-General Greg Abbott said First Assistant Attorney-General Barry McBee had inquired about federal assistance on the case but that officials in Washington said there was no basis for the Justice Department to get involved.

61 posted on 05/14/2003 10:09:22 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Did you notice that Steven Wolens, husband of Laura Miller (Mayor of Dallas) is on the list of dems who ran in the face of controversy? Are taxpayers paying for their trip, room and board, etc., to Oklahoma? If so, will we ever know how much this is costing us?
62 posted on 05/14/2003 10:16:36 AM PDT by Texagirl4W
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To: ArGee
Hey!

A tolkien fan?

63 posted on 05/14/2003 10:53:54 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: Area51
LOL ! . . . I think.
64 posted on 05/14/2003 10:55:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Hi, Oh eradicator of dixie chimps!
65 posted on 05/14/2003 10:56:47 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: Texagirl4W
Miller's hubby, huh? That doesn't surprise me. Miller didn't go to the Dallas Pro-America Rally in March. But I saw Mary Poss there. She even spoke to me. Too bad Miller won again. Sigh !

If we're to believe the media, the reports are that these scoundrels are forgoing their pay and paying their own expenses on this escapade. We'll see . . .

66 posted on 05/14/2003 11:06:10 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
What a HAPPY looking group, up on that balcony! /S
67 posted on 05/14/2003 11:26:32 AM PDT by potlatch
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To: Austin Willard Wright
One could argue that the home owners' association is violating private property rights. It depends on whether this rule was in effect when the home was bought or after.
68 posted on 05/14/2003 11:33:42 AM PDT by sparkydragon
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To: Pippin
Howdy !

. . . eradicator of dixie chimps!

Oh, if it were true ! :O)

69 posted on 05/14/2003 11:38:25 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: potlatch
hehe ! The one on the right: He looks to me like he might be smokin' somethin'.

Texas Democrats

70 posted on 05/14/2003 11:48:13 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
LOL! Fine looking group aren't they / NOT!!

I enjoyed your pictures, and signed your guestbook!! Logging off for now, till tonight.

71 posted on 05/14/2003 11:57:55 AM PDT by potlatch
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To: sparkydragon
I don't think that is the case here. If I buy a home governed by such an association, I also agree to all the covenants which run with the land. If those covenants autherize the association (of which I am a member) to enact regulatory rules, I don't, and shouldn't have a leg, to stand on....at least in a society which values freedom of contract, freedom of association, and property rights.

Now....if you can show in a court that the Association violated its own rules, you might have a case, however, this bill does not seem concerned with such niceities.

72 posted on 05/14/2003 12:26:32 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: SwatTeam
They must have fired the guy in Menendez office that answered the phone because the guy I got just sat and listened and then said he appreciated my opinion. Just giving my opnion of these swines was enough to make my blood boil.
guido
73 posted on 05/14/2003 12:59:39 PM PDT by GUIDO (.)
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To: MeeknMing
AND WHO THE F IS PAYING FOR THIS??!! The taxpayer is! I wonder if they can just vote and let the RATS vote absentee?!
74 posted on 05/14/2003 2:21:21 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: potlatch
Thank you !

I'll be heading out to my Dad's in East Texas shortly. Tomorrow's his 72nd birthday. Be back tomorrow evening.

I doubt I'll have any FReep time til I get back.

Have a great evening. I'll see ya when I get back.

75 posted on 05/14/2003 3:49:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
You're probably right. I have no experience with home owners' associations. I do have to say though, any time someone feels it necessary to enact a law enabling you to fly the American flag then a very pathetic situation has cropped up.
76 posted on 05/14/2003 4:52:53 PM PDT by sparkydragon
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To: MeeknMing
Hope you have [had] a great visit with your Dad, M&M!!
77 posted on 05/14/2003 7:15:36 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: TxPilot
How about prosecution (rico)for obstruction. Its easy to prove that their actions were ochestrated to render the current session useless. What kind of criminal charges could we utilize for this one? Why not just declare vacancy and call for a new election ASAP.
78 posted on 05/14/2003 7:34:08 PM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: Mia T
Ping.
79 posted on 05/14/2003 8:36:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: sparkydragon
We agree on that. The Homeowners Association has enacted a silly rule but they have a right to be silly.
80 posted on 05/15/2003 6:59:04 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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