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Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma - AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns
The Dallas Morning News ^ | May 14, 2003 | By GEORGE KUEMPEL and PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 05/14/2003 5:34:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma

AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns in redistricting standoff

05/14/2003

By GEORGE KUEMPEL and PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Neither side budged in the Red River redistricting standoff Tuesday, a second day of insults and indignation lobbed between Republicans and 51 House Democrats holed up in Oklahoma.

The Democrats, who fled to shut down the House on Monday in protest of a proposed Republican redistricting plan, defended their actions in a news conference outside their haven, the Holiday Inn in Ardmore, Okla.

"We have a message for Tom DeLay: Don't mess with Texas," said Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco, the Democratic caucus chairman who has emerged as a ringleader of the rebel efforts.

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He warned Mr. DeLay, the U.S. House majority leader, that the Democrats would not return to Austin to allow debate of the redistricting plan, which is on the agenda largely because of his efforts.

Mr. Dunnam said the members agreed to stay at least until midnight Thursday – the session's deadline for introducing legislation such as the redistricting bill.

"We decided yesterday that we were going to stay as long as it takes. ... It would take about two minutes if the Republican leadership makes the right decision," said Mr. Dunnam, who called the GOP response to the crisis "cowardly."

In Washington, Mr. DeLay, R-Sugar Land, chided the "fugitive Democrats" and defended the redistricting proposal, which he said would better reflect the way Texans vote by redrawing districts to create at least four more safe seats for Republicans in the U.S. House.

House Speaker Tom Craddick, who has labeled the missing Democrats "chickens," noted that Republicans never fled from redistricting battles. "Two years ago the Republicans could have walked and ... we didn't do it," he said in Austin. "We didn't run and hide, and that's what they are doing."

Mr. Craddick said the hour of death is near for some major state legislation, including bills designed to raise much-needed cash. Until at least two-thirds of the 150 House members return to achieve a quorum, no business can be conducted.

"We killed over $630 million worth of revenue measures ... [needed] to help the state of Texas in balancing the budget," he said.

One of the rebellious Democrats, Rep. Steve Wolens of Dallas, said that despite the fervent talk, there's plenty of time for the Legislature to accomplish critical business. Even if Thursday passes, Mr. Dunnam agreed, the House can vote to suspend that deadline and consider bills.

Mr. Wolens likened the walkout to other parliamentary maneuvers used routinely to kill legislation. For instance, under Senate rules, any bloc of 11 members can prevent a bill from being considered.

"Rome isn't burning, and the Legislature's not going away," he said, adding that redistricting is always among the most divisive issues. "We get past these things all the time."

While the crisis would end if one or two of the Democrats in Ardmore switched sides and returned to Austin, there were no rumbles about any defections around the normally gossipy halls of the statehouse.

Speaker Pro Tem Sylvester Turner of Houston, one of the House Democrats who stayed, asked Mr. Craddick to pull the redistricting bill from the calendar so the House could move on to more pressing matters, such as the state budget.

"Congressional redistricting is not a must-do thing," Mr. Turner said. "The budget is No. 1."

The attempt to force the runaways back to Austin at the hands of Texas Department of Public Safety troopers appeared to have stalled. The DPS said it has no jurisdiction in Oklahoma – or the signatures of judges required of traditional criminal arrest warrants – to serve the "arrest warrants" drawn up by Mr. Craddick's staff based on House rules.

Likewise, a bid for federal intervention failed. A spokesman for state Attorney General Greg Abbott said First Assistant Attorney General Barry McBee had inquired about federal assistance, at the request of Mr. Craddick's office.

The spokesman said Mr. McBee had not heard back, but federal officials in Washington said there was no basis for the Justice Department to get involved. "That's a state matter," said Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez in Washington.

As the standoff dragged on, DPS officers at the Holiday Inn in Ardmore remained friendly with their would-be quarry.

"They're just kind of hanging out," Mr. Wolens said. "They said, 'If you'd like, we'd be happy to accompany you back to Austin,' " Mr. Wolens said. "We did what Nancy Reagan said to do. We just said, 'No.' "

Mr. Dunnam said that the Democrats are paying for the trip with their own money and that they've agreed to forfeit their $124 daily state allowance until the imbroglio is resolved.

Gov. Rick Perry said Tuesday that there's still time for Democrats and Republicans to work out their differences and noted that he's waiting for important legislation that can't cross his desk until the House deals with it.

"With less than three weeks left in this legislative session, legislators have yet to send me a balanced budget, meaningful homeowners insurance reform that lowers rates and a medical malpractice bill that will protect patients' care in Texas," he said.

"It's unfortunate they would run and hide rather than stay and fight for their constituents," Mr. Perry said.

State GOP leaders argued Tuesday that the concentration of Democrats in Ardmore could constitute a quorum of certain House committees, in violation of the Texas Open Meetings Act. State Republican Chairman Susan Weddington said it was outrageous that the missing lawmakers are not subject to legal sanctions.

Democrats deny they are conducting any House business.

Staff writers Matt Stiles in Ardmore, Okla., Robert T. Garrett in Austin and Michelle Mittelstadt and David Jackson in Washington contributed to this report.

E-mail gkuempel@dallasnews.com

and pslover@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/051403dntexstandoff.1c516.html


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: awol; crybabies; democrats; idiots; runawayrats; stooges; texas
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To: MeeknMing
Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma

IQ raised in both states...

41 posted on 05/14/2003 8:20:38 AM PDT by goo goo g'joob
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To: zlala
If they had holed up anywhere inside of Texas and were found, they would have been arrested and taken to the Legislature immediately. They ran out of state to prevent being forced back to their appointed responsibilities. They are SOooo irresponsible . . .
42 posted on 05/14/2003 8:22:01 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: goo goo g'joob
lol !
43 posted on 05/14/2003 8:22:41 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: BellStar
I hope your bill does die. If would violate our much tattered rights to private property and freedom of association. If you don't want to live in such a place, move!
44 posted on 05/14/2003 8:31:32 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: MeeknMing
I feel there is a strong case against the TX Democrat Party, possibly the DNC, and the individual representatives to recoup the expenses of a special session.

I wrote an email a few minutes ago to the TX Attorney General inquiring about such a lawsuit. If anyone else thinks this is a worthwhile pursuit, the Texas AG is Mr. Greg Abbot. His email is:

greg.abbott@oag.state.tx.us

Thanks.
45 posted on 05/14/2003 8:31:35 AM PDT by TxPilot
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To: MeeknMing
Big 'DUH' on my part! LOL Of course that's why!

I can't tell you how much this colors my opinion of Texas - I'm still fairly new to the state. I thought I was moving from dem country (WA state) to Republican country (that's not why I moved here, but it would have been reason enough!). I'm disgusted by this on sooo many levels. I have read many comments on FR that Texas dems were more moderate - almost like Republicans in many cases. But this is a lefty tactic through and through.

46 posted on 05/14/2003 8:32:48 AM PDT by zlala
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To: TxPilot
Thank you ! I hope others will write as well.

If/when you get a reply, let us know what he says.

47 posted on 05/14/2003 8:36:44 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: zlala
Don't feel alone. I was shocked by this completely. And I was born and (mostly) raise here (Air Force Brat. Moved around a lot but have lived my whole adult life here since '72).

But the GOOD news is that the reason they are doing this is because they don't have the POWER in the legislature and this is surely going to have an effect on the next election cycle (hopefully). The 'RATS have controlled the Texas Legislature ever since there WAS a Texas Legislature - until the last election !!

48 posted on 05/14/2003 8:41:11 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
--suppose so-and they only had trains and horses on which to escape--
49 posted on 05/14/2003 8:41:44 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: MeeknMing
This could be a great campaign theme.

This time, vote for someone who will stick around until the job is done. Vote for _____________

Then make a list of all the RAT issues that never got completed because the RATS all went into holes.

Shalom.

50 posted on 05/14/2003 8:43:41 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: MeeknMing
But the GOOD news is that the reason they are doing this is because they don't have the POWER in the legislature

Thank you for your comment, I need to keep that in mind!

51 posted on 05/14/2003 8:51:50 AM PDT by zlala
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To: ArGee
This time, vote for someone who will stick around until the job is done.

Yup and that made me think of the saying "When the going gets tough, the tough get going." Except in the case of the Chicken D's they got goin all the way to OK. Which isn't ok by me!

Hey! Maybe that could be a campagin theme somehow too!

52 posted on 05/14/2003 8:57:37 AM PDT by zlala
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To: ArGee
LOL - now you have my campaign theme juices flowin! (Such as they are) How 'bout:
What were your legislators doing during the 2003 session? Show Reps at the Capital doing various legislative work; then show the pix of the 4 dems on the balcony at the Holiday Inn in OK - or even better by a pool if someone could get a pix like that! End by saying: Vote for __________ who'll stick around to finish the job when the goin gets tough.
53 posted on 05/14/2003 9:04:35 AM PDT by zlala
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To: ArGee
Good idea. I'm sure that will come up in the races where these fools are up for re-election too !
54 posted on 05/14/2003 9:07:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: zlala
:O)
55 posted on 05/14/2003 9:07:39 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks, MEEKIE, Got it! :O)
56 posted on 05/14/2003 9:12:35 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: MeeknMing
Got this from The Australian:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6437016%255E2703,00.html

Texan Republican Governor Rick Perry called the rebels "cowardly and childish" while Republican MPs pasted faces of their missing colleagues on milk cartons and joked about releasing a pack of cards bearing their images.

Mr DeLay called the rebels disloyal to their state.

"I have never turned tail and run. Even when I'm losing, I stand and fight for what I believe. It's so Texas contrary," he said.
57 posted on 05/14/2003 9:21:24 AM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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To: MeeknMing
A Texas FReeper send me a FReep mail and is going to the Ardmore Holiday Inn for a FReep ! They left me their cell phone and would like to hook up with any other FReepers that might be doing the same.

If anyone is going to the Holiday Inn in Oklahoma, please let me know !

If I happened to be in that area and got a whiff of something that resembled someone smoking Crack I think I would sure report it just to be on the safe side. Don't need no riff raff bringing in stuff like that. Think about the Children! :)

And then there is that one fella hanging out with them that looks alot like one of those Accused sexual perverts you see in the Post office postings.

58 posted on 05/14/2003 9:42:27 AM PDT by Area51
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To: Pippin
:O)
59 posted on 05/14/2003 9:51:07 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: knighthawk
The Australian? Wow. Thanks for the link and excerpt . . .
60 posted on 05/14/2003 10:04:10 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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