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Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma - AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns
The Dallas Morning News ^ | May 14, 2003 | By GEORGE KUEMPEL and PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 05/14/2003 5:34:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma

AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns in redistricting standoff

05/14/2003

By GEORGE KUEMPEL and PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Neither side budged in the Red River redistricting standoff Tuesday, a second day of insults and indignation lobbed between Republicans and 51 House Democrats holed up in Oklahoma.

The Democrats, who fled to shut down the House on Monday in protest of a proposed Republican redistricting plan, defended their actions in a news conference outside their haven, the Holiday Inn in Ardmore, Okla.

"We have a message for Tom DeLay: Don't mess with Texas," said Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco, the Democratic caucus chairman who has emerged as a ringleader of the rebel efforts.

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He warned Mr. DeLay, the U.S. House majority leader, that the Democrats would not return to Austin to allow debate of the redistricting plan, which is on the agenda largely because of his efforts.

Mr. Dunnam said the members agreed to stay at least until midnight Thursday – the session's deadline for introducing legislation such as the redistricting bill.

"We decided yesterday that we were going to stay as long as it takes. ... It would take about two minutes if the Republican leadership makes the right decision," said Mr. Dunnam, who called the GOP response to the crisis "cowardly."

In Washington, Mr. DeLay, R-Sugar Land, chided the "fugitive Democrats" and defended the redistricting proposal, which he said would better reflect the way Texans vote by redrawing districts to create at least four more safe seats for Republicans in the U.S. House.

House Speaker Tom Craddick, who has labeled the missing Democrats "chickens," noted that Republicans never fled from redistricting battles. "Two years ago the Republicans could have walked and ... we didn't do it," he said in Austin. "We didn't run and hide, and that's what they are doing."

Mr. Craddick said the hour of death is near for some major state legislation, including bills designed to raise much-needed cash. Until at least two-thirds of the 150 House members return to achieve a quorum, no business can be conducted.

"We killed over $630 million worth of revenue measures ... [needed] to help the state of Texas in balancing the budget," he said.

One of the rebellious Democrats, Rep. Steve Wolens of Dallas, said that despite the fervent talk, there's plenty of time for the Legislature to accomplish critical business. Even if Thursday passes, Mr. Dunnam agreed, the House can vote to suspend that deadline and consider bills.

Mr. Wolens likened the walkout to other parliamentary maneuvers used routinely to kill legislation. For instance, under Senate rules, any bloc of 11 members can prevent a bill from being considered.

"Rome isn't burning, and the Legislature's not going away," he said, adding that redistricting is always among the most divisive issues. "We get past these things all the time."

While the crisis would end if one or two of the Democrats in Ardmore switched sides and returned to Austin, there were no rumbles about any defections around the normally gossipy halls of the statehouse.

Speaker Pro Tem Sylvester Turner of Houston, one of the House Democrats who stayed, asked Mr. Craddick to pull the redistricting bill from the calendar so the House could move on to more pressing matters, such as the state budget.

"Congressional redistricting is not a must-do thing," Mr. Turner said. "The budget is No. 1."

The attempt to force the runaways back to Austin at the hands of Texas Department of Public Safety troopers appeared to have stalled. The DPS said it has no jurisdiction in Oklahoma – or the signatures of judges required of traditional criminal arrest warrants – to serve the "arrest warrants" drawn up by Mr. Craddick's staff based on House rules.

Likewise, a bid for federal intervention failed. A spokesman for state Attorney General Greg Abbott said First Assistant Attorney General Barry McBee had inquired about federal assistance, at the request of Mr. Craddick's office.

The spokesman said Mr. McBee had not heard back, but federal officials in Washington said there was no basis for the Justice Department to get involved. "That's a state matter," said Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez in Washington.

As the standoff dragged on, DPS officers at the Holiday Inn in Ardmore remained friendly with their would-be quarry.

"They're just kind of hanging out," Mr. Wolens said. "They said, 'If you'd like, we'd be happy to accompany you back to Austin,' " Mr. Wolens said. "We did what Nancy Reagan said to do. We just said, 'No.' "

Mr. Dunnam said that the Democrats are paying for the trip with their own money and that they've agreed to forfeit their $124 daily state allowance until the imbroglio is resolved.

Gov. Rick Perry said Tuesday that there's still time for Democrats and Republicans to work out their differences and noted that he's waiting for important legislation that can't cross his desk until the House deals with it.

"With less than three weeks left in this legislative session, legislators have yet to send me a balanced budget, meaningful homeowners insurance reform that lowers rates and a medical malpractice bill that will protect patients' care in Texas," he said.

"It's unfortunate they would run and hide rather than stay and fight for their constituents," Mr. Perry said.

State GOP leaders argued Tuesday that the concentration of Democrats in Ardmore could constitute a quorum of certain House committees, in violation of the Texas Open Meetings Act. State Republican Chairman Susan Weddington said it was outrageous that the missing lawmakers are not subject to legal sanctions.

Democrats deny they are conducting any House business.

Staff writers Matt Stiles in Ardmore, Okla., Robert T. Garrett in Austin and Michelle Mittelstadt and David Jackson in Washington contributed to this report.

E-mail gkuempel@dallasnews.com

and pslover@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/051403dntexstandoff.1c516.html


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: awol; crybabies; democrats; idiots; runawayrats; stooges; texas
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For 130 years the DemocRATS controlled the Texas Legislature - since day one. The GOP NEVER has gone AWOL and pulled a stunt such as this. What else can you call these 'RATS but crybabies or Sore Losers, man ?? . . .

Four of the 51 Stooges . . .

Texas Democrats
DAMON WINTER / DMN
From left: Robby Cook of Eagle Lake, Dan Ellis of Livingston, Al Ritter of Nederland and Pete Laney of Hale Center are among those holed up in Oklahoma.


1 posted on 05/14/2003 5:34:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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Texas Democratic legislators still in Oklahoma -
AWOL House members, GOP leaders stick to guns

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As the standoff dragged on, DPS officers at the Holiday Inn in Ardmore remained friendly with their would-be quarry.

"They're just kind of hanging out," Mr. Wolens said. "They said, 'If you'd like, we'd be happy to accompany you back to Austin,' " Mr. Wolens said. "We did what Nancy Reagan said to do. We just said, 'No.' "



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No, you don't HAVE to be a Texan to get on this list!


Full Texas Ping List . . .

2 posted on 05/14/2003 5:38:17 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing

WANTED IN TEXAS

Get Your 2 Page PDF Wanted Poster here

Wanted in Texas!

3 posted on 05/14/2003 5:40:23 AM PDT by Flyer (© 1999 - 2003)
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To: MeeknMing
How long a time is legally needed for Govenor Perry to declare the democrats seats vacant, due to dereliction of duty, and appoint Republicans to the vacated seats?
4 posted on 05/14/2003 5:41:11 AM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: MeeknMing
email, phone, and fax info for the hotel has been posted here
5 posted on 05/14/2003 5:41:23 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: MeeknMing
--as a historical aside, the Democrats in Congress tried this stunt around the turn of the last century. The Speaker of the House had enough of them arrested and returned to constitute a quorum and business went on--
6 posted on 05/14/2003 5:44:56 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: yall
DeLay assails Democrats - he greets walkout
with humor, defends plan for redistricting


Get 'em Tom !

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House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, whose redistricting plan lit the fuse of Austin's political firestorm, mocked "fugitive Democrats" Tuesday with a photo of the Texas Capitol dome superimposed over a hotel in Ardmore, Okla.

"These Democrats up in Oklahoma – they may not be patriots, but they did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night," said the Sugar Land Republican, playing on a series of television ads (although the hotel in question is actually a regular Holiday Inn).


7 posted on 05/14/2003 5:52:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Make sure the dimwits have thier infant shots before they inter texas.Sounds like they have a real bad case of loser sydrone or old fashion red a&%.
8 posted on 05/14/2003 5:54:00 AM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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How long a time is legally needed for Govenor Perry to declare the democrats seats vacant, due to dereliction of duty, and appoint Republicans to the vacated seats?

I don't know, but that would sure suit me fine ! :O)

9 posted on 05/14/2003 5:56:35 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Flyer
Thank you !
10 posted on 05/14/2003 5:56:51 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: The_Victor
Thank you for that link !
11 posted on 05/14/2003 5:57:20 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the ping!
12 posted on 05/14/2003 5:57:23 AM PDT by 1riot1ranger
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To: yall
A Texas FReeper send me a FReep mail and is going to the Ardmore Holiday Inn for a FReep ! They left me their cell phone and would like to hook up with any other FReepers that might be doing the same.

If anyone is going to the Holiday Inn in Oklahoma, please let me know !

13 posted on 05/14/2003 6:12:40 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
The Texas Constitutionis here for those interested.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/toc.html
14 posted on 05/14/2003 6:21:46 AM PDT by shamusotoole
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To: MeeknMing
You know, the Ba'ath party lost the war, and after they fled to Syria, they came back and are demanding to be a large part of the new Iraqi government.

Texas Democrats lost the election, and rather than accept defeat, like the Ba'ath party, they have fled to Oklahoma and are demanding to be a large part of the new Texas legislature.

I guess the moral of the story is: Winning matters.
15 posted on 05/14/2003 6:26:38 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: MeeknMing
These Dems think they are going to be rock stars. Just stopped in for a cup of coffee in southeastern OK. Overheard some Dems there saying the T.Dems are real heroes and of course the old line "what about N. Korea".
Is it just me or are Dems at the lower end of the brain chain?
16 posted on 05/14/2003 6:35:25 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: mabelkitty
I can't express how much it disgusts me that these legislators would, in seeking the furtherance of the their own political party's power, thwart the express will of the people of Texas through their elected representatives.

Texans put the Republicans in charge, so the Democrats who are no longer getting their way after 130 YEARS of control, shut down the people's business.

They have no honor...
17 posted on 05/14/2003 6:38:15 AM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: Flyer
New Headline:

Texas democRATs Flee to Oklahoma and Double the IQ of Both States

With sincerest apologies to all Republican Okies!

18 posted on 05/14/2003 6:52:17 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: MeeknMing
Meek, did you see my post to you on that combind thread about them dem critters that ran away to oklahoma?
19 posted on 05/14/2003 6:54:01 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: MeeknMing
Go for it, Meekie!
20 posted on 05/14/2003 6:54:41 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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