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1 posted on 05/13/2003 9:22:35 AM PDT by presidio9
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Jeez louise, it's just one skeleton. One. Personally, I'd want a larger sample size before jumping to any conclusions.
2 posted on 05/13/2003 9:25:03 AM PDT by mewzilla
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"This discontinuity is difficult to reconcile with the hypothesis that both Neanderthals and early anatomically modern humans contributed to the current European gene pool."

They should be a little more careful. What it says is that Neanderthal women didn't contribute to the gene pool. Suppose Cro-Magnon men didn't fancy Neanderthal women, on account of them looking like the sisters of Dourass, but Neanderthal men liked Cro-Magnon women? I don't think that scenario's at all unlikely.

3 posted on 05/13/2003 9:27:00 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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The number of "missing links" between monkeys and men continues to grow. If I hade a chain with that many missing links I, er, ah, wouldn't have a chain at all.
5 posted on 05/13/2003 9:28:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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... no such link between Neanderthal DNA and modern European DNA could be established ...
There goes my theory about the origins of the French.

The dimensions and bone-mass of neanderthal specimens suggests that sex with same, male or female, would have left the human participant injured or dead. Most likely dead. Or wishing that he was, or she was, or whatever. E.g. imagine a human female attempting to give birth to a half-neanderthal child--YIKES! And a neanderthal female would probably just laugh at a sexually excited human male (ahem).

Neaderthals were optimized for heavy lifting etc.
7 posted on 05/13/2003 9:29:08 AM PDT by Asclepius (as above, so below)
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It is a blow to the "multi-regional" theory, in which some interbreeding between Neanderthal and early humans is thought to have taken place.

I have no doubt that interbreeding likely took place, but could the offspring then have been sterile?

8 posted on 05/13/2003 9:29:22 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Ping
9 posted on 05/13/2003 9:30:11 AM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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zug zug!

10 posted on 05/13/2003 9:31:00 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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(from the article) Scientists know

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Stop, yer killin' me!

11 posted on 05/13/2003 9:31:23 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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A skeleton uncovered in Portugal appeared
to show both Neanderthal and human features.


12 posted on 05/13/2003 9:31:35 AM PDT by Slyfox
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Direct descendent of the Neanderthals:

Stephen Jay Gould

14 posted on 05/13/2003 9:33:26 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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Ok, so let me see..."scientists know". There's an interesting phrase. How does the reporter know that scientists know? Perhaps scientists assert that they know. that would be fact-based reporting. But the reporter cannot possibly know what the scientists know. That is ideological reporting.

Next, seems Neanderthal is same species as humans, but there is no DNA linkage. That's particularly curious. Maybe they are not the saem species. But what is a "species" anyway? Why it's merely part of a convention for cataloguing lifeforms. The Dewey Decimal System is a way of arranging books in a library, but that does not make the arrangement scientific or intrinsic to the collection of books.

Someone needs to come up with another view of origins.

I can think of one...<><
15 posted on 05/13/2003 9:33:56 AM PDT by sleepy_hollow
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Something about this headline (Neanderthals breeding) made me suddenly visualize congressional Democrats naked, late at night, in a private Capitol Hill office.
16 posted on 05/13/2003 9:35:08 AM PDT by tdadams
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Scientists know that Neanderthals and early human ancestors were distinct species, even though they lived during the same period.

One wonders if the Neanderthals were the inspiration for the "Nephilim" of Genesis 6:4:

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

19 posted on 05/13/2003 9:39:13 AM PDT by r9etb
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I've been reading a book by Jack Cuozzo, an orthodontist, who did X-ray cranigraphs of Neanderthal skulls from France and Britian.

He's convinced that Neanderthals were merely long lived normal humans - by long lived he means several hundred year old persons - consistent with Genesis.
23 posted on 05/13/2003 9:42:38 AM PDT by fishtank
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Oh, but the neanderthals are not gone.... no
they now live in California.
25 posted on 05/13/2003 9:43:11 AM PDT by TheWillardHotel
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They live just across the street.
26 posted on 05/13/2003 9:44:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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Let's get you guys straight on this right now, the creationists that is.

Scientists know that Neanderthals and early human ancestors were distinct species, even though they lived during the same period.

Yep, that's pretty simple, we KNOW that they were distinct species.

The results, they say, indicate that Neanderthals made little or no contribution to the genes of modern humans.

Indicate, you see the word INDICATE, it is saying that they are not positive, but the results are INDICATIVE of that assumption.

Now, let us get on with the discussion, shall we?
27 posted on 05/13/2003 9:44:21 AM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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30 posted on 05/13/2003 9:47:15 AM PDT by Snowy (My golden retriever can lick your honor student)
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YEC doubts
53 posted on 05/13/2003 10:27:15 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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A skeleton uncovered in Portugal appeared to show both Neanderthal and human features.

They've just found Pat Ewing.

55 posted on 05/13/2003 10:29:55 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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