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MSNBC Chief Goes from Scorning Patriotic Coverage to Hyping It
Media Research Center ^ | April 17, 2003 | Brent Baker

Posted on 04/17/2003 3:35:10 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner

MSNBC Chief Goes from Scorning Patriotic
Coverage to Hyping It

     In a remarkable transformation, upon figuring out that appearing patriotic helps in the ratings, MSNBC chief Erik Sorenson has gone from disdaining pro-American patriotic programming to championing it.

     In November of 2001, Sorenson grumbled that if you make “any misstep...you can get into trouble with these guys and have the Patriotism Police hunt you down." In a New York Times story he ridiculed those concerned about the tone of post-9/11 coverage: “These are hard jobs. Just getting the facts straight is monumentally difficult. We don't want to have to wonder if we are saluting properly. Was I supposed to use the three-fingered salute today?"
     Jump ahead to Wednesday's New York Times this week and reporter Jim Rutenberg noted, the MRC's Rich Noyes observed, how MSNBC now “has patriotic flourishes throughout the day,” including “the regular screen presence of an American flag” and “an 'America's Bravest' studio wall shows snapshots of men and women serving in Iraq.” Sorenson acknowledged that he's realized that “after Sept. 11 the country wants more optimism and benefit of the doubt.”

     Excerpts of the two New York Times stories:

     -- November 7, 2001 story on coverage of the war on terrorism:

....Much of the criticism comes from a group of conservative media voices and outlets, including Rush Limbaugh's radio talk show, The New York Post's editorial page, The Drudge Report and some commentators on the Fox News Channel. Much of the information for their critiques has been assembled by a conservative media watchdog organization called the Media Research Center, which hires full-time monitors to watch the network newscasts.

These outlets have kept tabs on the media for some time and were on the opposite side of the White House for the Clinton presidency.

How their criticism will affect coverage of the war is an open question. But news executives at CNN, ABC and MSNBC said they were conscious of the criticism while making their day-to-day decisions about coverage.

“Any misstep and you can get into trouble with these guys and have the Patriotism Police hunt you down," said Erik Sorenson, president of MSNBC. "These are hard jobs. Just getting the facts straight is monumentally difficult. We don't want to have to wonder if we are saluting properly. Was I supposed to use the three-fingered salute today?"...

     -- April 16, 2003, “Cable's War Coverage Suggests a New 'Fox Effect' on Television,” by Jim Rutenberg:

....MSNBC has patriotic flourishes throughout the day. Along with the regular screen presence of an American flag, Mr. Bush's portrait is featured on MSNBC's main set and an "America's Bravest" studio wall shows snapshots of men and women serving in Iraq.

Neal Shapiro, the NBC News president, said MSNBC hired Mr. Scarborough and Mr. Savage to add political equilibrium to its lineup of hosts. Before the war, Mr. Shapiro said, all of them -- Chris Matthews, Phil Donahue, Bill Press and Pat Buchanan -- opposed the war. Mr. Donahue's program was canceled in February.

"If you have a range of opinion that leaves out a whole part of the country," Mr. Shapiro said, "you're unintentionally sending a message that 'you are not welcome here.' "

Erik Sorenson, MSNBC's president, said it was trying to differentiate its report from what he called a mainstream style of automatic questioning of the government.

"After Sept. 11 the country wants more optimism and benefit of the doubt," Mr. Sorenson said. "It's about being positive as opposed to being negative. If it ends up negative, so be it. But a big criticism of the mainstream press is that the beginning point is negative: 'On Day 2, we're in a quagmire.' "

MSNBC's programming moves were welcomed by L. Brent Bozell III, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media analysis group. "What Fox is doing, and frankly what MSNBC is also declaring by its product, is that one can be unabashedly patriotic and be a good news journalist at the same
time," Mr. Bozell said.

     END of Excerpt

     That story is online at www.nytimes.com.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: ccrm; iraqifreedom; msnbc; patriotism; televisedwar
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To: Dog Gone
"I think Joe Scarborough is going to take the timeslot back from Greta."
Some folks like Greta but I can't stand her. Scarborough has become a delightful way to fill the time slot.

21 posted on 04/17/2003 5:08:42 PM PDT by Bahbah (Pray for our Troops)
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To: JCEccles
The Republican Party should follow suit--emphasizing the positive and the patriotic at every turn.

It worked for Reagan.

22 posted on 04/17/2003 5:12:41 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Thud
Remember our conversations on media market segmentation?
23 posted on 04/17/2003 5:15:52 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Heck, if we can get MSNBC and Fox News, we may have some real clout.
24 posted on 04/17/2003 5:22:36 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (God Reigns!)
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To: Friend of thunder
I generally agree, but I do not think it is good journalism to have a journalist say on the air "We beat the Iraqi bastards" or something like that. As an American, I like it of course, so I really like Shep. But, when I look at it journalistically, he probably should try to be a bit more objective while still reporting the good, not just bad like the other networks.
25 posted on 04/17/2003 5:26:04 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (God Reigns!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Interesting. The market is deciding for them. And the market is responding.

Darwin at work! Adapt or perish.

26 posted on 04/17/2003 5:29:09 PM PDT by 6ppc
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To: leilani
this article doesn't even mention MSNBC's former "Star" correspondent Peter Arnett.

Baghdad Pete was MSNBC's epiphany. They got hammered so bad that they finally realized Americans don't want to hear that crap.

27 posted on 04/17/2003 5:37:49 PM PDT by 6ppc
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To: Shaka
I met Joe at this rally in Pensacola: Rally In Pensacola A Big Success

Joe has his own show on MSNBC called Scaroborough Country.

I thought he was going to work for a law firm? (And spend time with the family)

28 posted on 04/17/2003 5:56:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: rwfromkansas
I agree. My point was that thinking that America is a good country – and a good idea – is not biased. If one lets love of country get in the way of the truth then, of course, there is a problem. And, one must take into account their love of country and ensure that it does not blind them to the truth. A problem arises when one is so concerned about not making any moral distinctions. Not making any moral distinctions is making a moral choice.
29 posted on 04/17/2003 6:09:33 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
One of the worst mistakes MSNBC made was in their choice of Retired Military experts Clark and McCafrey who really blew it on the weekend of the second week of the war criticizing Tom Franks war plan. They would be wise to get shed of those two. And the Sunday shows all based their programs on those criticisms. It was truly shameful.
30 posted on 04/17/2003 8:44:15 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Trajan88
Agree, his show is great. MSNBC wants ratings too and has finally figured out how to get them.
31 posted on 04/17/2003 8:49:12 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Prediction: MSNBC begins to close in the ratings on that stinking fecal mass CNN by the end of the year!!!
32 posted on 04/17/2003 9:07:18 PM PDT by friendly
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To: Mr. Mulliner
if you make “any misstep...you can get into trouble with these guys

"These guys" meaning the American public.

33 posted on 04/17/2003 9:52:02 PM PDT by Huck
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To: leilani
Look, MSNBC has some great reporters and one of the best anchors working today, I think, Lester Holt. The guy is AMAZING.
_______________

The guy's an ironman. He can go on for hours and not get punchy or flakey.
34 posted on 04/17/2003 10:03:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
I watched his show tonight. It was great... he ripped into the hypocracy of Amnesty International and how he solicited their help during his stint in congress and how A.I. couldn't help because he was on the "wrong" side of the political spectrum. His show also talked about the b.s. the NY Times was throwing out in their editoral page about how our military didn't protect some Iraqi historical artifacts. Hmmm... liberating the opressed Iraqi people or saving a piece of potttery? I believe ourt military did the right thing.

Joe S. you rock man... I'll follow you into battle dude!

Trajan88
35 posted on 04/17/2003 10:03:51 PM PDT by Trajan88
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To: MEG33
Competition is a wonderful thing!

Yes, it is also wonderful that some are seeing the light after our victory in Iraq. The anti-Americanism of the left is both hollow and shallow, some of the sheep that blindly followed it are gaining some semblance of awareness.

36 posted on 04/17/2003 10:05:37 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever (russia and france are hypocritical lying scum)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Under Jack Welch, the former General Electric CEO, each GE subsidiary must be Number 1 or Number 2 in its market, or else GE pulls the plug on it. Perhaps this goal is still alive in the post-Welch GE.

If so, CNN should shudder, because MSNBC looks like it's shooting for Number 2.

37 posted on 04/17/2003 10:12:34 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: RJayneJ
Clark was on CNN with Aaron Brown a double dose!
38 posted on 04/18/2003 2:34:02 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
If MSNBC is seeing the light, it could give Fox News Channel a run for the money. I don't give CNN much hope; its hopeless due to being compromised by being wedded to the hate America crowd to make a meaningful change in its staff and broadcasting philosophy.
39 posted on 04/18/2003 2:50:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I agree. I think CNN got too comfortable and is feeling the heat..but don't have the insight to get it.I've watched MSNBC a lot during this war.
40 posted on 04/18/2003 2:56:31 AM PDT by MEG33
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