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Palestinians stunned by collapse of Saddam's regime
Jerusalem Post ^ | 04/09/03 | KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Posted on 04/09/2003 11:13:27 AM PDT by bedolido

There was shock and disbelief in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Wednesday as Palestinians gathered around TV sets to watch US Marines and Iraqi residents knock down a giant statute of Saddam Hussein in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad.

"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.

He and grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing more than a US-produced Hollywood film.

"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Some Palestinian officials, however, expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."

Since the beginning of the war, many Palestinians have been staging daily demonstrations in support of Saddam. The protests have often turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in the fighting.

"This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam.

"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Salim Jaber, a taxi driver from the nearby town of Beitunia, said he decided to call it a day when he heard on radio the news from Baghdad. "I just couldn't continue driving," he said. "It was very difficult for me and the passengers. I've never seen such solemn faces. It was as if they had lost dear ones."

Many Palestinians said Saddam was the only Arab leader who sided with them both morally and financially in their confrontation with Israel. "He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs, a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser Arafat."

Since the beginning of the intifada more than two years ago, Saddam has paid about 30 million dollars to families of Palestinian victims of the violence, including suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel. The money was channeled through the pro-Iraqi Arab Liberation Front, a tiny Palestinian faction operating in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The last time Saddam's representative handed out checks to Palestinians was last week.

Some Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about the developments on the battlefield. "For the past three weeks these stations gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh, the owner of a boutique in al-Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah.

"Where is the liar [Iraqi information minister Mohammed] Sahhaf," he asked rhetorically. "He sounded and looked so confidant when he told us that the Iraqis were slaughtering the crusaders and mercenaries at the gates of Baghdad. Everyone believed that the Iraqis were cleverly luring the Americans and British into Baghdad, which was supposed into a huge graveyard for the crusaders."

Older Palestinians said the events in Iraq are reminiscent of the Six Day War, when Arab radio stations and leaders told their audiences that Israel was on the verge of defeat. They said the TV appearances of the Iraqi information minister, who remained defiant till the last minute, insisting that everything was under control and that the enemy had been defeated.

"Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said, who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."


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To: bedolido
"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

I know how you feel, pal. I felt exactly the same way after the last superbowl.

201 posted on 04/09/2003 12:45:57 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: bedolido
"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.


"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Tom al-Daschle, a 54-year-old US Senator in Washington, DC.
202 posted on 04/09/2003 12:47:27 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: bedolido
"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."

Says it all. We gained support from our enemies as they now see a Strong USA that can solve their problems. They were so against us yet they now count on us to hemp them gain freedom as well.

I pray we can find a way to give them freedom so they can live in peace.

203 posted on 04/09/2003 12:49:12 PM PDT by ImphClinton
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To: Jhoffa_
This applies to the American media as much as it does to Al-Jazeera.

Remember that the LA Times ran a doctored photo (proving that you can't believe your eyes).

Just because we have US based news agencies does not mean that they are rooting for our side. And I don't buy their claim that "we can't call the 9/11 hijackers 'terrorists' because we must remain unbiased".

The press is biased. The press did not identify who originated the "antiwar" protests (or reveal that they did not have America's interests at heart, they are communists). Some of these same people protested Clinton's wars but those protests did not get legs from the US press; they wanted it to look like a "grass roots" effort of housewives and college kids.

The networks had their dissenting voices echoing the words "quagmire" and "blood for oil". They are free to broadcast such propaganda but it is not healthy programming (and neither would a constant drumbeat "WE WILL WIN, WE WILL WIN"). If there is nothing to report on the war (or nothing to report without compromising troops), then go back to BS entertainment as usual.

204 posted on 04/09/2003 12:49:46 PM PDT by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight the Red Menace)
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To: weegee
My guess is right about now the success factor of future suicide bombers is being looked at in a different light. While saddam was there it may have looked good. Now that his regime is flattened in three weeks, not so good. So no matter what your hatred, defeat has a way of taking the wind out of the sails.

And what do you think the people think of these brain dead Immams telling the people to go kill themselves for nothing?

We can hope. We'll see.
205 posted on 04/09/2003 12:52:08 PM PDT by snooker
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To: weegee
Good post.

But what doctored photo from the LA Times? I have been out of town for a week.

Thanks.
206 posted on 04/09/2003 12:52:34 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: bedolido
Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said, who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."

And the truth shall set you free!
207 posted on 04/09/2003 12:53:18 PM PDT by wasp69 (The time has come.......)
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To: weegee

Oh yes.. You're absolutely correct.

That's why they can't figure out why Fox News has such incredible ratings. They try all kinds of face saving arguments like "It's entertainment" and so on.

Truth is, many media outlets have forgtten the lesson of the boy who cried wolf.

I don't think ostensibly "Conservative" media is exempt from this rule either. NewsMax would be a good example on the Conservative side.

208 posted on 04/09/2003 12:54:05 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Yes, kiss me you fool!")
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To: bedolido
"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Sentiments echoed, no doubt, by Hitlery, Daschole, Pelosi, and Je$$e.
209 posted on 04/09/2003 12:54:10 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Defend America against her most powerful enemy -- the Democrats.)
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To: bedolido
"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Scales falling from Eyes Alert!

Now maybe some of the people will realize most of their leaders and media are a pack of liars. Can only help our cause - if they lied about Saddam then they lied about the U.S. too!

210 posted on 04/09/2003 12:54:24 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! God Bless our Troops!)
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To: m1-lightning
We've defeated the Communist puppet(Saddam)and brought freedom to Iraq. Now it's time to defeat the Communist ants(Democrats, formerly known as Communists) and bring freedom back to Americans. Then we would live under a dictatorship. No thanks!
211 posted on 04/09/2003 12:54:33 PM PDT by eboyer
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To: bedolido
There is no better evidence of the depravity of their cause - They chose Saddam as their ally and lauded him as some kind of hero.

The devil has that people by the throat.
212 posted on 04/09/2003 12:56:06 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: mombonn
>>>"Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media.<<<

With their traditional good judgement and luck, the Palistinians will now look to Bagdad Bob for leadership.

214 posted on 04/09/2003 1:02:10 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: bedolido; sauropod
</i>Some Palestinian officials, however, expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.</i>

Now they want our help?

</i>"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people." </i>

specifically from Washington? Are we not the Great Satan???

</i>At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in the fighting. </i>

Palestinians---want Peace? By sending in suicide bombers? Any citizen of Palestine that wants Peace, had better start throwing out the Fatah and the Islamic Jihad, or they may soon get a Peace they are not exactly counting on! "If you are not with us you are against us" Supporting terrorists is not my idea of a peace loving or desiring people!

</i> "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes.</i>

Enough said!
215 posted on 04/09/2003 1:03:24 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: ConservativeConvert
take the handcuffs off of Israel so they can do to Arafat and his cronies EXACTLY what we have done to the Taliban and Saddam

Agreed. Let Israel park their APC's and tanks in the Palestinians' town squares and invite all martyrs and suicide bombers to "come on and have done with it."

216 posted on 04/09/2003 1:08:04 PM PDT by Black Bart
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To: bedolido
"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. He then continued, "Because we are not capable of solving our own problems."

I added the last sentence, of course. But I have to wonder, are Palestinians democrats? It seems they hold to the same philosophy, that "brown people are not as skillful as whites, so we have to humor them and give them a head start."
217 posted on 04/09/2003 1:11:08 PM PDT by newguy357
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To: nutmeg
Sorry for all the pings...

Please don't apologize. I thank you very much.
I usually visit every one of your pinged pages; you and I think alike, I guess. I don't thank you often enough.
218 posted on 04/09/2003 1:12:01 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Defend America against her most powerful enemy -- the Democrats.)
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To: Prince Charles
It WAS one of the great battles of the century.
At least from our perspective.
219 posted on 04/09/2003 1:12:10 PM PDT by Warren
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To: bedolido
"This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam.

"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Three points for you to consider, Nael. First, Allah is a poor match for determined a determined and cohesive American force - and doesn't really care to tip the scales.

Second, the mullahs were wrong - there ain't no virgins out there for suicide bombers. Its a one way ticket to hell, after first seeing a Jewish gatekeeper at the gates of Paradise.

Third, now that your sugar daddy is gone, people are going to be a lot less likely to pull this garbage.

220 posted on 04/09/2003 1:12:49 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (They built the cardboard Baghdad in the desert to fool the Coalition, and then moved into it)
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