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Charlie Rangel D (NY) labeled U.S. Troops as 'bombers of women and children tonight on Fox
Fox News: Hannity and Colmes . ^ | 3/27/2003 | John Danforth

Posted on 03/27/2003 7:25:39 PM PST by JohnD9207

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

1. That the soldiers fighting in Iraq were bombing Women and Children!!! When confronted with this he claimed that they weren't bombing themselves!!! Sound's like the garbage we heard a few years ago when we were told that we were 'baby killers'.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1buttpimple; hallofshame; povertypimp; rangel
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To: JohnD9207
I heard Rangel say this too! "Bush did not have enough experience" - (like Clinton did). To think this man would chair the House Ways and Means Committee if the Democrats took back the House is terrifying!!

Also Sean was on FIRE! He was JUST as angry as anytime I've ever seen him. Rangel started back pedaling BIG TIME!

161 posted on 03/28/2003 5:22:49 AM PST by Alissa
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To: JohnD9207
Charlie Rangel is a DISGRACE to his country

And I'm sure Jane Fonda is very proud of Charlie today

162 posted on 03/28/2003 5:28:16 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Dengar01
Personally, I think he should be censured by Congress for making such false and possibly seditious statements in a time of war.

We should find as many soldiers as we can who live in this scumbag's district and ask them (and their families) how they feel about Rangel's comment. Find a KIA or POW from his district, get the right media coverage and old Charlie is toast.

163 posted on 03/28/2003 5:39:37 AM PST by Spiff
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To: nicmarlo; Landru; sultan88; jla; iceskater; PhiKapMom; ForGod'sSake; scholar; dead
Rangel and the DemonRATS can claim to NOT be ANTI-American, but their words--and ACTIONS--betray the RAT-Left's LIES...MUD
164 posted on 03/28/2003 5:41:24 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (The DemonRAT Party is Being EXPOSED as THE Communist Party of America...Let 'em Squawk!!)
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To: ladyinred
>What freaking former President has the experience to lead us in war besides Eisenhower you moron?

Uh, George Washington? (Sorry, couldn't resist)
165 posted on 03/28/2003 5:49:45 AM PST by Darnright (Charlie Rangle should be stripped of his Veteran status)
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To: Darnright
"It's Harder to Spread GOOD Than EVIL!!"

"September 11, 2002
In this country and the world today, there are many people who agree with the bizarre statements made by Nelson Mandela in Newsweek. Many people, including most students and many elected officials, agree that the United States is imperialist and that our military is the focus of evil in the modern world. The truth, of course, is that we're the most giving nation in the world. We have no empire. We do not invade or annex. We liberate. Despite the talk of the resources we use, we use those resources to feed, clothe and protect the world. When Nelson Mandela or one of these terrorists sees America, they ask, "How did they do this in less than 230 years? We've been around here for centuries, and we still can barely muster working toilets." It is this that the terrorists see, folks – and it makes them envious.
Yes, envy. They look at the U.S. and see what they thought they were supposed to become. That's what they thought their religion promised them. I'm not speaking of all of Islam here or Muslims in general. I'm speaking of the militant extremists, particularly from the Wahabi sect, who looked at those towers and said, "How did they do that when we can't even pave a road?" If I were a citizen of a country that had been around thousands of years, and was still basically a sand pit, when I looked at America, I would want to come here, not to tear this country down.

"Do These People Think America is Just an Accident?"

"If these people ever stop blaming America, they'd have to blame themselves. That's how somebody got hold of these hijackers when they were very young, and filled them with hate at schools. They understand the desire to be free, but they don't understand how it relates to capitalism. Consider the fascinating piece in Wednesday's Christian Science Monitor if you agree with this notion that this country is evil and imperialistic. The theme is its opening line: "Compared with past great powers, say the Mongols or Romans, America wields a light touch." We rebuilt Europe and Japan. We let the Philippines and Puerto Rico opt for independence. We didn't stay in any of the nations where we've sent troops to go to war. We even paid for the land we won from Mexico in our war with them, at a time when some (even Mexicans!) called for the United States to absorb all of that nation into our territory. Imagine if Canada's neighbors were Iraq or Nazi Germany or the USSR or imperial Japan or any powerful empire. Would they sleep so well at night? The Boy Scouts could crush Canada with zero casualties, yet we let them opt to keep welcoming in terrorists and to thumb their noses at us on Iraq.

"But Rush, if good is so good, why is it so hard to triumph over evil? Why is good content with what it is, even as evil metastasizes?" Look, we're trying to spread FReedom, goodness and democracy in the Mideast. Yet evil seems to be able to take over these places in a snap, even in parts of this country. Goodness always is going to be the tougher battle, just like doing the right thing is always going to be much harder than doing the wrong thing, just like love is always going to be a little harder than hate. Hate is an instinct. You don't even have to know anybody to hate them. But love, it's not an emotion you can turn on and off. You either do or you don't. You have to work at liking people. Disliking them - hating them, for some – is easy. It's the same thing with good and evil, and that's why it's hard work. But, it's worth it, because who would you rather see win out day-to-day, year-to-year, in eternity - good or evil? Question answered."

FReegards...MUD

166 posted on 03/28/2003 5:59:01 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (The DemonRAT Party is Being EXPOSED as THE Communist Party of America...Let 'em Squawk!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Sorry.
I'm not surprised to hear the Liberal-Socialist POS made that kind of comment.
I'd have seriously stroked out if he hadn't, in fact.

The Liberal-Socialists are far too committed to what they tried pulling for the past 10 years, ie, the destruction of our beloved nation, culture & peoples.
There's no turning back for 'em all now & they know that.
So for the American Liberal-Socialist it's boiled down to, "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead."

...the Liberal-Socialist's comuppance will be swift, sure & by their own deeds.

167 posted on 03/28/2003 6:34:06 AM PST by Landru
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To: nicmarlo
I saw it too. Zook (in 8 ) said it well about Chas. Just a pimp in a business suit.
168 posted on 03/28/2003 6:48:00 AM PST by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: JohnD9207
RANGEL: Listen a part of my job in the Congress is to be involved in foreign affairs and to be involved in critiquing or supporting a president, and just because if I thought the war was wrong before he got involved in it, how in the world because he has moved forward with a preemptive strike against a country without the support of the U.N., wouldn't it be immoral of me to just change my mind?

HANNITY: Well, I would argue that it's not a preemptive strike. With all due respect, it's a resumption of the hostilities because he's failed to abide by his own ceasefire agreement and by the U.N. resolutions that have been passed, as we have chronicled, over a 12-year period of time.

RANGEL: Sean, we don't have a right to strike against a country.

HANNITY: Do you doubt the brutality of...

RANGEL: What do you mean it's not a preemptive strike?

HANNITY: Sure we do. Sure we do. We have the right to resume hostilities because he didn't abide by the ceasefire agreement nor the U.N. resolutions that were passed against him to disarm...

RANGEL: This country should not be at war.

HANNITY: ... and give up his weapons of mass destruction.

RANGEL: This country should not be at war unless we have a feeling that we're in eminent danger from whoever we're striking. So, a preemptive strike with me is good if there's an scintilla of evidence that we're endangered by that.

HANNITY: Why do we -- why would countries sign on to a ceasefire agreement if we have no intention of every enforcing it, because that's what you're asking us then to do.

RANGEL: Listen there could be a whole lot of things we should do when a country is corrupt and dishonest and they lie and they cheat and you don't trust them.

HANNITY: That's not my point.

RANGEL: But I'm saying I just don't believe that you bomb women and children in order to enforce something against a lying cheat, that's all.

HANNITY: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Congressman. I'm not going to let you get away with that. We're not bombing innocent women and children. We are with pinpoint accuracy...

RANGEL: OK (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Sean, you're right.

HANNITY: ... we are doing everything possible to avoid it.

RANGEL: You're right, they're shooting themselves, you know. They just don't act -- they don't know they're being liberated so I made a mistake.

HANNITY: That's disgraceful.

169 posted on 03/28/2003 6:48:21 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Since when have conservatives wanted to fight wars for the UN?)
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To: The Old Hoosier
You know it is because of people like Rangel why I am strongly considering moving into Maryland's 7th District from the 2nd District and taking on Rep Cummings in 2004. I am sick and tried of Rangel and the whole CBC they are a slap in the face of hard working blacks in America and they would rather preach for a handout than a handup!!!
170 posted on 03/28/2003 6:53:35 AM PST by Trueblackman
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To: finnman69
Actually, E.D. Hill on 'Fox & Friends' this morning (FRI 28 MAR) did a better job than Sean Hanitity last night, calling Rangel's comments "Traitorous."
171 posted on 03/28/2003 6:57:22 AM PST by Wisc Paul
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To: Landru; FBD; conservativemusician; sultan88; jla; lodwick; MeeknMing; dead; dirtboy
"There's no turning back for 'em all now & they know that. So for the American Liberal-Socialist it's boiled down to, "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead."...the Liberal-Socialist's comuppance will be swift, sure & by their own deeds."

You nailed it, oh wise one...MUD

172 posted on 03/28/2003 7:01:14 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (The DemonRAT Party is Being EXPOSED as THE Communist Party of America...Let 'em Squawk!!)
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To: ChadGore
I agree. As much as it enrages me, as much as I would love to beat these people on the head with a Louisville Slugger...the political reality is incredible. People will begin to see the true face of the Democratic Party. Alot of people?? Maybe not, but I can quarantee enough to ensure Republican control for quite a long time.
173 posted on 03/28/2003 7:02:46 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
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To: Ga Rob
DON'T STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD------KEEP IT HOTTTTTTTT
174 posted on 03/28/2003 7:21:58 AM PST by Uncle George
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To: Uncle George
maybe demonRATS dshouldnt be allowed to serve in the military
175 posted on 03/28/2003 7:23:39 AM PST by rrrod
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To: CheneyChick
I was disgusted too. But, I was disgusted with Sean - he asked baiting questions & then answered them for Cong. Rangle who then was left with trying to refute what SH said were his views. SH was also the one who tried to turn it into a Dem/Rep issue - which it isn't. If SH wants to say that someone tried to gain political points in this discussion - it was SH who made it so.

I respect the Congressman for standing by his principles - even if I don't agree with him. It is never treasonous to speak your mind in this country - so get off the kick that only those that support W have free speech rights. Disagree with the idea - don't attack the person - no one listens to rantings about how everyone has to show their patriotism.
176 posted on 03/28/2003 7:36:07 AM PST by familyofman
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To: Trueblackman
If you do decide to run for Congress, I'll back you up in any way I can.
177 posted on 03/28/2003 7:56:04 AM PST by Slip18
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To: Trueblackman
You know it is because of people like Rangel why I am strongly considering moving into Maryland's 7th District from the 2nd District and taking on Rep Cummings in 2004

Go for it. You will get a lot of FR support.

178 posted on 03/28/2003 8:24:44 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: nicmarlo
That was very well stated!
179 posted on 03/28/2003 8:42:41 AM PST by TheLion
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To: JohnD9207
Contact Rangel
180 posted on 03/28/2003 8:57:57 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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