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Law Professor urges UN to invade USA? Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | march 15,2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory

By Art Moore © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Could the U.N. use military force to prevent the United States and Britain from waging war on Iraq without a Security Council mandate?

United Nations headquarters in New York

Some anti-war groups are urging the world body to invoke a little-known convention that allows the General Assembly to step in when the Security Council is at an impasse in the face of a "threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression."

The willingness by the U.S. and Britain to go to war with Iraq without Security Council authorization is the kind of threat the U.N. had in mind when it passed Resolution 377 in 1950, said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

In a position paper, Ratner wrote that by invoking the resolution, called "Uniting for Peace," the "General Assembly can meet within 24 hours to consider such a matter, and can recommend collective measures to U.N. members including the use of armed forces to 'maintain or restore international peace and security.'"

The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

"It would be very difficult to say what that means," said Ratner in an interview with WorldNetDaily, emphasizing that he did not believe the situation would evolve to that "extreme."

"I don't consider that within the framework I'm talking about," he said.

Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression."

"But I doubt it would happen," she said. "I don't think that as part of Uniting for Peace they would include military action, but that would have to be something those countries agreed on. …"

Steve Sawyer, spokesman for Greenpeace in New Zealand – which has joined Ratner's group in the campaign – told WND he was not aware of the U.N. being able to use force under any circumstances.

Ratner explained that Resolution 377 would enable the General Assembly to declare that the U.S. cannot take military action against Iraq without the explicit authority of the Security Council. The assembly also could mandate that the inspection regime be allowed to "complete its work."

"It seems unlikely that the United States and Britain would ignore such a measure," Ratner said in his paper. "A vote by the majority of countries in the world, particularly if it were almost unanimous, would make the unilateral rush to war more difficult."

Uniting for Peace can be invoked either by seven members of the Security Council or by a majority of the members of the General Assembly, he said.

'Ways to make U.N. more important'

Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.

He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."

Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach, he said, since "we're just a small human-rights litigation organization."

"I've done a lot of work with international law and with the U.N.," he said, "and we're always interested in figuring out ways to make the U.N. more important."

Sedition?

A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

The letter includes Ratner's name and e-mail address as a contact, but he says he did not send out that particular version, which included the line about the U.N. using military action.

A political science professor at the University of Michigan who forwarded the letter to colleagues, added a note above the text, obtained by WND, that said: "Below you will find an excellent and urgently needed proposal for stopping the war before it starts from the Center for Constitutional Rights. …"

"Please make this major peace action a high priority and forward this message to others," said Susan Wright, who indicated she is with the university's Institute for Research on Women and Gender.

Is Wright essentially urging foreign countries to be willing to take military action against her own country?

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily sedition," said Ratner. "Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend."

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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantraitors; bush; counsel; international; invasion; iraq; kofi; law; nations; security; un; united; war
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To: CyberCowboy777
What would the nations of the world do without US aid?
If our aid stopped tomarrow, the foriegn leaders would be runnng to their vaults. There would be massive looting all over Europe.
221 posted on 03/15/2003 9:06:56 PM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I wonder if this has any relevance ?


http://www.interfax.ru/one_news_en.html?lang=EN&tz=0&tz_format=MSK&id_news=5625110
222 posted on 03/15/2003 9:19:17 PM PST by Rev. Lou Chenary
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To: longtermmemmory
Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?

I am not going to read the entire thread to see if somebody said this. I am sure that they have.

Would we not veto the attack America resolution when it came before the Security Council. Plus, don't forget, blue helmuts are easy to shoot at.
223 posted on 03/15/2003 9:29:30 PM PST by AdA$tra (All we are saying ....is give war a chance)
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To: Rev. Lou Chenary
I wonder if this has any relevance ? ?

I don't think so. They just want to make sure their oil deal is still intact. They have big money invested in it. Their watching out for their own interests.
They too want Saddam disarmed, but he owes them. Right now, he pays with oil. If Saddam blows up his own wells, Russia may soon become our best friend.

224 posted on 03/15/2003 9:35:26 PM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: Risa
A pack of skinny, naked girl scouts could crush the entire might of the UN invaders between their soft white ass cheeks, like so many cheap dollar store tortilla chips. A high school marching band playing at full volume in their general direction would knock down any air power they had, or even a few fat guys farting into the sky. The movie version of the invasion would have a title starting with "National Lampoon."
225 posted on 03/15/2003 10:23:50 PM PST by TheLurkerX ("When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." Hunter S. Thompson)
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To: longtermmemmory
After 32 years of debating they will decide to first implement sanctions against us. Of course by then they will have realized that they now reside in Paris.
226 posted on 03/15/2003 10:26:24 PM PST by Sparky760
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To: AdA$tra
Its not so much could they as it is that the left is thinking about this as a means of bypassing the US Gov. (GW Bush specifically) Not that the members in the general assembly would actually want to be put on the spot for their opinion. (they don't want to loose their cushy jobs)

The left only cares about their socialist world view. To contemplate this means they would subvert the US just as communists of the 40',50',60',70',80',90' and today.
227 posted on 03/15/2003 10:31:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
Needless to say, our conservative pals in the UK and Canada are with us on this issue.
228 posted on 03/15/2003 10:37:51 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: longtermmemmory
Only one reason why we do not belong in this organization for which we pay too much of our tax dollars. It needs to be destroyed. It does not work for any but itself.
229 posted on 03/15/2003 10:39:35 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Spirited
Assuming we go to war and win, the UN has the potential of being the place where the United States holds court and the rest of the world comes to us.

The French are holding themselves as the keepers of vurtue but they will ultimatly be nothing more than contrarians. A US war will will torpedo a nice chunk of their ecconomy. It is the 5th columnists that we need to stop here at home.
230 posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: oldtimer
This is great: pieces of dog clinton like this guy!
231 posted on 03/15/2003 11:59:17 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: longtermmemmory
A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

Military action? The Valley Girls all say that force never accomplished anything. This guy doesn't know blix about conflict resolution. DUh!

232 posted on 03/16/2003 12:00:51 AM PST by TigersEye (Let the liberals whine - it's what they do.)
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To: meema
Even worse, he is probably being paid as a professor by taxpayers to preach hate talk about the UN invading America.
233 posted on 03/16/2003 12:06:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: muawiyah
a pleasant dream, isn't it?
234 posted on 03/16/2003 12:17:16 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: Travis McGee
Love the U.N. more than the U.S.?

Then MOVE THERE!

235 posted on 03/16/2003 12:17:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: maestro
Thanks! You can write a song anytime for us when we have the flow going on Free Republic!
236 posted on 03/16/2003 12:19:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Travis McGee
well played, sir!
237 posted on 03/16/2003 12:21:21 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: Tax Government
not the forcible overthrow of the government but the forcible overthrow of American sovereignty and the US Constitution - a very different and much more serious piece of business.
238 posted on 03/16/2003 12:28:58 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: longtermmemmory
The UN can't do this. It violates resolutions .223, .308, .338 and .50BMG.
239 posted on 03/16/2003 12:29:42 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Dalite
"Daily limit"???
BAG LIMITS????
I ain't honoring no steenkin' BAG limits, y'hear?
I am not going to stop untill my wallspace is done full up!
240 posted on 03/16/2003 12:34:05 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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