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Law Professor urges UN to invade USA? Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | march 15,2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory

By Art Moore © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Could the U.N. use military force to prevent the United States and Britain from waging war on Iraq without a Security Council mandate?

United Nations headquarters in New York

Some anti-war groups are urging the world body to invoke a little-known convention that allows the General Assembly to step in when the Security Council is at an impasse in the face of a "threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression."

The willingness by the U.S. and Britain to go to war with Iraq without Security Council authorization is the kind of threat the U.N. had in mind when it passed Resolution 377 in 1950, said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

In a position paper, Ratner wrote that by invoking the resolution, called "Uniting for Peace," the "General Assembly can meet within 24 hours to consider such a matter, and can recommend collective measures to U.N. members including the use of armed forces to 'maintain or restore international peace and security.'"

The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

"It would be very difficult to say what that means," said Ratner in an interview with WorldNetDaily, emphasizing that he did not believe the situation would evolve to that "extreme."

"I don't consider that within the framework I'm talking about," he said.

Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression."

"But I doubt it would happen," she said. "I don't think that as part of Uniting for Peace they would include military action, but that would have to be something those countries agreed on. …"

Steve Sawyer, spokesman for Greenpeace in New Zealand – which has joined Ratner's group in the campaign – told WND he was not aware of the U.N. being able to use force under any circumstances.

Ratner explained that Resolution 377 would enable the General Assembly to declare that the U.S. cannot take military action against Iraq without the explicit authority of the Security Council. The assembly also could mandate that the inspection regime be allowed to "complete its work."

"It seems unlikely that the United States and Britain would ignore such a measure," Ratner said in his paper. "A vote by the majority of countries in the world, particularly if it were almost unanimous, would make the unilateral rush to war more difficult."

Uniting for Peace can be invoked either by seven members of the Security Council or by a majority of the members of the General Assembly, he said.

'Ways to make U.N. more important'

Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.

He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."

Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach, he said, since "we're just a small human-rights litigation organization."

"I've done a lot of work with international law and with the U.N.," he said, "and we're always interested in figuring out ways to make the U.N. more important."

Sedition?

A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

The letter includes Ratner's name and e-mail address as a contact, but he says he did not send out that particular version, which included the line about the U.N. using military action.

A political science professor at the University of Michigan who forwarded the letter to colleagues, added a note above the text, obtained by WND, that said: "Below you will find an excellent and urgently needed proposal for stopping the war before it starts from the Center for Constitutional Rights. …"

"Please make this major peace action a high priority and forward this message to others," said Susan Wright, who indicated she is with the university's Institute for Research on Women and Gender.

Is Wright essentially urging foreign countries to be willing to take military action against her own country?

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily sedition," said Ratner. "Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend."

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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantraitors; bush; counsel; international; invasion; iraq; kofi; law; nations; security; un; united; war
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To: longtermmemmory
"He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.
In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.
He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."
Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach"

"Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend"

He's a liar. Not only does he recommend it, he wishes it would come to pass.BR>
This guy and his ilk are extremely dangerous IMHO.

As someone else once said, it's mush easier to be anti- than pro-, and these people have had years of practice being anti-everything this country stands for. They've spent decades worming their way thru our society and like termites are eating the floorboards out from under us.

Time to break out the Raid.
181 posted on 03/15/2003 4:30:38 PM PST by visualops (Let's stomp some bugs.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Make no mistake. The "non-violent" fasco-leftists, as found on DU and other places, would like nothing better than to reintroduce "re-education" camps for those who do not heartily take to their program of a thoroughly socialist America.

With Chomsky in charge, you'd have gulags across the country to throw recalcitrant capitalists and conservatives into. The leftists will betray their own country in a heartbeat. I've already read an op-ed from a local college history teacher in my old hometown advocating U.N. takeover of the U.S. He'd make a great Dzerzhinsky.

182 posted on 03/15/2003 4:48:10 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Bring it.

Watched firsthand in Somalia how "tuff" non-american UN forces are. They were skinned alive. Hung up, and left out to dry.

We'll just leave em lay, crows need to eat too.
183 posted on 03/15/2003 5:03:08 PM PST by Stopislamnow (Because tomorrow we'll all be dead and won't be able to)
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To: TommyDale
why do you think they want our weapons
184 posted on 03/15/2003 5:07:15 PM PST by mt tom
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To: Grampa Dave
Re: your# 38 post.......#45,#48.........bttt

You said, in post#48......
The credit for the banner logo goes to Doughty one.

Travis McGee started toying around with the anti UN stuff to put in our vehicle windows. I threw a few things in the mix as did others. Travis polished them up.

The next thing I know is that Doughty one has taken the best of them and made them into this great banner. It is amazing how Free Republic works!

How about a title,...."First,...America First!"

(With a repeated chorus like,..."First,...America First!".....then, back to your original 'verse' and repeating it over a few times?)

[Hats-off to all you 'FReeper' song/slogan writers!]

185 posted on 03/15/2003 5:20:21 PM PST by maestro
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To: Grampa Dave; DoughtyOne
I've got another new one to go with "Only UNamericans put the U.N. before America!"

Check this one out:

Love the U.N. more than the U.S.?

Then MOVE THERE!


186 posted on 03/15/2003 5:25:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- I don't own any "assault rifles," just Homeland Defense Rifles. It's my patriotic duty. ---)
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To: TommyDale
Comforting thought. God bless the 2nd ammendment.
187 posted on 03/15/2003 5:27:17 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: longtermmemmory
"Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression." "

Search this creature out and lambaste her. She needs burkaing.
188 posted on 03/15/2003 5:33:47 PM PST by Bulldogs22
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To: longtermmemmory

NO! Their army isn't big enough.

This professor needs to go back to gilligans island.

189 posted on 03/15/2003 5:36:03 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: tuna_battle_slight_return
Who's the dork in the picture? I mean the one who is not Dukakis.
190 posted on 03/15/2003 5:38:18 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: fjsva
No not the MOAB. Send the USS New Jersey up the East River with 16 inch turrets to port.
191 posted on 03/15/2003 5:39:53 PM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: longtermmemmory
we will push the building & it's occupants into the east river.........
192 posted on 03/15/2003 5:40:57 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: cake_crumb
Somebody remind me of the CFR citation for the "irregular militia." I believe there are some ages mentioned in the Federal Code and I recall the upper end is well over 35.
193 posted on 03/15/2003 5:42:52 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: longtermmemmory
Reminds me of Alice in Wonderland. Alice finally has enough of being on trial by the Queen and her court, and shouts, "You're nothing but a deck of cards!" as they're blown away by the wind.

"You're nothing but a deck of cards!" Someone needs to shout that at the UN building.

194 posted on 03/15/2003 5:44:10 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Amerigomag
Third graders formulating policy? Remember when Chelsea Clinton was sitting in on foreign policy meetings?
195 posted on 03/15/2003 5:53:17 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: scouse
Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

Hes still pissed off because of his lame attempt to politicly correct a version of the W.T.C. flag raising isnt he the one who wanted all the people in the pic to be of different colors?

196 posted on 03/15/2003 6:07:44 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK ("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf)
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To: longtermmemmory
I was very pleased to read this article. If there is anything that will demonstrate to the American people the dangers of American participation in the United Nations, this is it.

It's time for the United States to get out of the U.N., and it's time for the U.N. to get out of America.


197 posted on 03/15/2003 6:08:15 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining (Bomb Iraq)
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To: longtermmemmory
I say, BRING IT ON.
The second you kill or hurt an American, your history.

198 posted on 03/15/2003 6:14:17 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Travis McGee
ROTFL, where's there? It's nothing but vapor!
199 posted on 03/15/2003 6:48:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Don't just sit there, use the links on the Graphic Teaser.)
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To: longtermmemmory
There are reports that France has purchased 1000 septic tanks, and as soon as they can figure out how to drive them, they will invade the U.S.!
200 posted on 03/15/2003 7:05:41 PM PST by Richard Axtell
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