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Law Professor urges UN to invade USA? Could U.N. use military force on U.S.?
www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | march 15,2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 03/15/2003 10:46:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory

By Art Moore © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Could the U.N. use military force to prevent the United States and Britain from waging war on Iraq without a Security Council mandate?

United Nations headquarters in New York

Some anti-war groups are urging the world body to invoke a little-known convention that allows the General Assembly to step in when the Security Council is at an impasse in the face of a "threat to the peace, breach of the peace or act of aggression."

The willingness by the U.S. and Britain to go to war with Iraq without Security Council authorization is the kind of threat the U.N. had in mind when it passed Resolution 377 in 1950, said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

In a position paper, Ratner wrote that by invoking the resolution, called "Uniting for Peace," the "General Assembly can meet within 24 hours to consider such a matter, and can recommend collective measures to U.N. members including the use of armed forces to 'maintain or restore international peace and security.'"

The U.N. taking military action against the U.S.?

"It would be very difficult to say what that means," said Ratner in an interview with WorldNetDaily, emphasizing that he did not believe the situation would evolve to that "extreme."

"I don't consider that within the framework I'm talking about," he said.

Shonna Carter, a publicist for Ratner's group, said she believed it would be legitimate for the U.N. to use military force to stop "U.S. aggression."

"But I doubt it would happen," she said. "I don't think that as part of Uniting for Peace they would include military action, but that would have to be something those countries agreed on. …"

Steve Sawyer, spokesman for Greenpeace in New Zealand – which has joined Ratner's group in the campaign – told WND he was not aware of the U.N. being able to use force under any circumstances.

Ratner explained that Resolution 377 would enable the General Assembly to declare that the U.S. cannot take military action against Iraq without the explicit authority of the Security Council. The assembly also could mandate that the inspection regime be allowed to "complete its work."

"It seems unlikely that the United States and Britain would ignore such a measure," Ratner said in his paper. "A vote by the majority of countries in the world, particularly if it were almost unanimous, would make the unilateral rush to war more difficult."

Uniting for Peace can be invoked either by seven members of the Security Council or by a majority of the members of the General Assembly, he said.

'Ways to make U.N. more important'

Ratner, who also teaches at the Columbia University Law School, told WND that the idea of invoking the resolution "came up when I started thinking about the fact that we could get into a situation where the U.S. may go to war without a Security Council resolution or with a veto."

He had two of his students at the law school research the resolution and now has sent out the word to every U.N. mission in New York.

In addition, about 12 missions a day are being visited by campaigners, he said, and the response has been generally very positive.

He expects there to be support from the 116 countries in the non-aligned movement, who are "already saying inspectors should be given more time."

Greenpeace's involvement has greatly expanded the campaign's reach, he said, since "we're just a small human-rights litigation organization."

"I've done a lot of work with international law and with the U.N.," he said, "and we're always interested in figuring out ways to make the U.N. more important."

Sedition?

A circular e-mail letter promoting the campaign said in the first paragraph that "if Iraq is invaded, it would empower the General Assembly to restore peace, including an authorization to use military action to accomplish this, if necessary."

The letter includes Ratner's name and e-mail address as a contact, but he says he did not send out that particular version, which included the line about the U.N. using military action.

A political science professor at the University of Michigan who forwarded the letter to colleagues, added a note above the text, obtained by WND, that said: "Below you will find an excellent and urgently needed proposal for stopping the war before it starts from the Center for Constitutional Rights. …"

"Please make this major peace action a high priority and forward this message to others," said Susan Wright, who indicated she is with the university's Institute for Research on Women and Gender.

Is Wright essentially urging foreign countries to be willing to take military action against her own country?

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily sedition," said Ratner. "Advocacy is one thing, having the means to carry it out is another. It's not something I would ever recommend."

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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americantraitors; bush; counsel; international; invasion; iraq; kofi; law; nations; security; un; united; war
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To: Grampa Dave
Are there any alumni who object to this? A few calls to their donation office should let our displeasure with the law school be known.
21 posted on 03/15/2003 11:01:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: jlogajan
Could the U.N. use military force?

Only in self defense.

22 posted on 03/15/2003 11:02:04 AM PST by elbucko ('s shopping cart is empty.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a human-rights group in New York City.

Is he any relation to that well known ultra leftist; Ellen Ratner; that ubiquitous talking head whose face carries enough Botox to wipe out the whole of sub-Saharan Africa?

23 posted on 03/15/2003 11:02:44 AM PST by scouse
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To: David1
The invasion strategy wii be to double-park the members
limos all over NYC holding the city traffic hostage and negotiate the peace terms from that advantage.
24 posted on 03/15/2003 11:03:06 AM PST by dwilli
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To: longtermmemmory
Exactly in all of these cases the locals have to move first like as you note the alums. Then we make the issue a national issue of shame. The Deans have been reeling backwards since 9/11 on many of these situations.
25 posted on 03/15/2003 11:04:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Let the U.N invade. Gives us a chance to test one of those MOAB's on the U.N. building.
26 posted on 03/15/2003 11:04:05 AM PST by fjsva
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To: longtermmemmory
I sure wish The President would use the words' "clear and present danger" in regards to Iraq. That would put all of this type of horse puckey to rest. I thought he was close to saying it during the last press conference, but alas...not so.
27 posted on 03/15/2003 11:04:09 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: elbucko
As you were:

"The Rat That Puked".

28 posted on 03/15/2003 11:04:12 AM PST by elbucko ('s shopping cart is empty.)
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To: scouse
Yes, he is Ellen's brother.
29 posted on 03/15/2003 11:04:23 AM PST by David1
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To: scouse
The link http://www.humanrightsnow.org/
30 posted on 03/15/2003 11:04:47 AM PST by aquitaine
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To: longtermmemmory
Isnt this like that old Peter Sellers movie where a 50th rate country declares war on the US assuming it will lose so it can get gobs of foreign aid?

Or is this like the story of Benedict Arnold who was a military hero but then tried to sell out the US in the Revolutionary War out of spite and desire for moneyh?

Or is this just plain vanilla, garden variety, left-wing academic, ivory-tower treason against the United States, punishable by imprisonment or death, pure and simple?

I personally vote for choice "C".
31 posted on 03/15/2003 11:05:07 AM PST by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: dwilli
LOL :-)
32 posted on 03/15/2003 11:05:14 AM PST by David1
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To: longtermmemmory
Go ahead, make my day.
33 posted on 03/15/2003 11:07:41 AM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: longtermmemmory
I mentioned this a few days ago as a potential scenario. I was ridiculed, but today...here it is -- a call for the U.N. to take military action against the U.S. and its two remaining allies.

I will say this much: If it ever happens, the blue helmets will experience quite a showing of private arms in one of the biggest guerrilla warfares ever.

34 posted on 03/15/2003 11:09:48 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: longtermmemmory
This is absurd -
Almost as absurd as someone who calls themselves a law professor not stating the obvious - that the US has an absolute veto.
35 posted on 03/15/2003 11:10:13 AM PST by RS
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To: Grampa Dave
TOLERANCE?...........

.....The "Islamic U.N.".....HATES......"ROCK n ROLL"..........

.....(Its a religious despotic thing.)

/sarcasm

36 posted on 03/15/2003 11:11:17 AM PST by maestro
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To: elbucko
Only in self defense.

That's easy. Sadaam appeals to the U.N. as a member state under attack from parties in violation of the charter.

37 posted on 03/15/2003 11:11:48 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: maestro

38 posted on 03/15/2003 11:14:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: litany_of_lies
So...let me get this straight. The UN should go to war to stop the US from enforcing one their own UN "laws" (1441).

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me....BBBWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAA !

39 posted on 03/15/2003 11:14:27 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: aquitaine
Thanks for the link.
40 posted on 03/15/2003 11:15:20 AM PST by scouse
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