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Toddler tantrum grounds jet
This Is London ^ | 12 March 2003 | James Sturcke

Posted on 03/12/2003 7:54:53 AM PST by eyespysomething

Toddler tantrum grounds jet By James Sturcke, Evening Standard 12 March 2003 Like any two-year-old Marcello Ferrand is prone to the occasional tantrum.

So when an aircraft crew tried to make him wear a seatbelt he panicked and sat under the seat - the kind of scene any parent will recognise.

However, for the staff of a British Airways flight from Milan to Heathrow it demanded immediate action - which resulted in the police being called and Marcello, along with his grandparents, being hauled off the plane.

The airline's ground staff then refused to let the elderly couple and Marcello, who lives in Kensal Rise, travel on a later flight. They then had to pay £300 for tickets with Alitalia to get home.

Marcello's grandmother Mariella DeNatale, 70, said the cabin crew had completely overreacted and had been responsible for scaring the toddler in the first place.

She said: "The police came aboard, checked our passports and then took us to a waiting car. I have flown all over the world and never had an experience like this. I felt like a Third World citizen."

The Airbus A319 with about 100 passengers was further delayed while the family's luggage was removed. It arrived at Heathrow 45 minutes behind schedule. Ms DeNatale, a former fashion editor for Vogue in Italy, added: "We were treated like rubbish. The captain told us he was not prepared to take us to London. It was a very bad experience. I will never buy another ticket with BA."

The scene took place as the aircraft was taxiing to the runway on Sunday morning carrying Ms DeNatale, her husband Peter Van Schalwyk and Marcello.

The couple boarded the 11.45am flight with their grandson, who had been staying at their Milan home. Marcello went to Milan with his mother, Margherita Gardella, 39,

deputy fashion editor of Harpers & Queen, who was attending fashion shows. Ms Gardella then flew to France for Paris Fashion Week, leaving the grandparents to bring Marcello back.

Mr Van Schalwyk, 64, a retired advertising director, said: " Marcello was in the seat between Mariella and myself. We had trouble getting him to put on his seatbelt. Three cabin staff crowded round him. They were quite aggressive. When one appeared with a special child seatbelt, Marcello took fright and hid under the seat. He was scared. He cried a bit but he was not screaming madly or anything. It's not like he was Dennis the Menace taking the plane apart."

Marcello's father, Nick Ferrand, 41, who owns an architect and interior design firm, said: "I was waiting in arrivals at Heathrow for over 90 minutes and no one told me anything. As a dad you fear the worse.

"Of course two-year-olds have tantrums but Marcello doesn't have any more than any child his age. Eventually I was informed they had been removed from the flight. I know airlines have to be careful but throwing an elderly couple and a two-year-old off the flight was ridiculous." A British Airways spokeswoman said: "It is absolutely imperative for all passengers to be wearing a seatbelt during take-off, landing and when the fasten seatbelt light is turned on. This is for their safety.

"The captain was called and reinforced the importance of being strapped in the chair. After speaking with the accompanying adults he made the decision to off-load the family."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: airline; overeaction; spank; tantrum
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Has anyone ever heard of SPANKING?
1 posted on 03/12/2003 7:54:53 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: mhking
this might be a hold muh beer
2 posted on 03/12/2003 7:55:24 AM PST by eyespysomething (I need a new tagline idea!)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Whip his butt and keep going.... (Oh, but I forgot - there's the child welfare authorities...)

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

3 posted on 03/12/2003 7:56:31 AM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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To: eyespysomething
Exactly. Were I bad enough to disobey my parents in public like that, I would have had my butt popped a few times, and that would have definitely shut me up.
4 posted on 03/12/2003 7:57:28 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: eyespysomething
He's two years old. He doesn't need to be spanked.

He needs to be picked up, put in the chair, and buckled.

This shouldn't be complicated.

5 posted on 03/12/2003 7:59:00 AM PST by dead
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To: eyespysomething
You pick up the child, you put him in the seat, you strap him down kicking and screaming. I suspect mommy didn't want to contrary the child.
6 posted on 03/12/2003 7:59:00 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: eyespysomething
Of course it's ALWAYS someone elses fault that a little one is misbehaving. It couldn't be that the kid is a spoiled brat being raised in a "child centered" family.

Rather than just criticising, I have a solution - GIVE THE BRAT A SPANKING! My daughter who is about to turn four, has gotten spankings and she is the HAPPIEST well behaved kid in town. The "terrible two's" were a pleasure for us. She continues to be a pleasure.

7 posted on 03/12/2003 7:59:43 AM PST by nmh
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>> "The captain was called and reinforced the importance of being strapped in the chair. <<

it should read "and reinforced strapping the child down, so a two-year-old would not cause a delay in the flight"
8 posted on 03/12/2003 8:00:04 AM PST by eyespysomething (I need a new tagline idea!)
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To: eyespysomething
Ms DeNatale, her husband Peter Van Schalwyk
...two-year-old Marcello Ferrand
...with his mother, Margherita Gardella

Ok. everyone involved has a DIFFERENT NAME?

What's up with that... *sigh*

9 posted on 03/12/2003 8:00:44 AM PST by Johnny Gage (We will not tire, We will not falter, We will not fail. - President George W. Bush)
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To: Vic3O3
Ping!
10 posted on 03/12/2003 8:00:55 AM PST by dd5339 (Lookout Texas here we come!)
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To: eyespysomething
Has anyone ever heard of SPANKING?

I think that is illegal there. Anyone know for sure?

11 posted on 03/12/2003 8:01:03 AM PST by templar
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To: eyespysomething
Has anyone ever heard of SPANKING?

Gee that's an effective way to get the kid to pipe down and sit in his seat -- NOT. The better approach is not to spoil the kid in the first place, and to teach him what is expected when he rides on airplane before he gets on board.

12 posted on 03/12/2003 8:01:23 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: eyespysomething
The airline's ground staff then refused to let the elderly couple and Marcello, who lives in Kensal Rise, travel on a later flight. They then had to pay £300 for tickets with Alitalia to get home.

And the airlines wonder why they are going bankrupt. They have got to get their act straight. Non refundable, non transferable tickets, harsh treatment, incompetant employees, and yet they complain when they make no money.

13 posted on 03/12/2003 8:01:23 AM PST by cdefreese
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To: eyespysomething
It's obvious the adults wouldn't cooperate and discipline the little brat.
14 posted on 03/12/2003 8:02:05 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: AppyPappy
Exactly, I've done that plenty of times. Hmmm, I'm a little bigger, I believe I can pick them up with no problem. Of course with mine, just sayong "One..." gets them to do whatever I want, no need to spank or time out anymore. We play around, but they know when I'm serious. (This is for my 2 little ones, my oldest has learned, for the most part)
15 posted on 03/12/2003 8:02:08 AM PST by eyespysomething (I need a new tagline idea!)
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To: AppyPappy
It was grandmommy, fwiw.
16 posted on 03/12/2003 8:02:55 AM PST by SarahW
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To: templar
I don't think it is illegal - from Milan to Heathrow. In Canada it is. Still in the privacy of their home they NEED to spank this spolied brat. If not they will have an out of control adult in the near future.
17 posted on 03/12/2003 8:02:57 AM PST by nmh
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To: eyespysomething
I suspect some attitude and lack of willingness to help from the grandparents contributed to the situation, though the article is careful to paint them as victims. The flight crew had probably seen the "Don't you dare touch my child" attitude once too often.
18 posted on 03/12/2003 8:03:08 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: Labyrinthos
I don't think piping down was the problem. And at that point, not spoiling the child wasn't an option. But you're right, just pick up the child, put her in the seat and strap them in. End of story.
19 posted on 03/12/2003 8:03:45 AM PST by eyespysomething (I need a new tagline idea!)
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To: SarahW
If grandmommy can't handle the child, grandmommy has no business with the child. What if the child ran into traffic?
20 posted on 03/12/2003 8:04:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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