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Another Souper Candidate? [The Kucinich Abortion Flip-Flop]
http://www.catholicity.com/ ^ | February 28, 2003 | Dan Coyne

Posted on 02/28/2003 1:40:17 PM PST by Akron Al

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To: GreenHornet
Is it just me, or does Dennis Kucinich bear a striking resemblence to Elliot Carlin, one of the resident loons on "The Bob Newhart Show"?

The plot thickens. The actor who played Elliot grew up in Cleveland.

21 posted on 02/28/2003 3:09:25 PM PST by Diago
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To: Akron Al
Incredible article. Great research and information. Pro-Life BUMP!
22 posted on 02/28/2003 3:22:40 PM PST by Gophack
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To: Akron Al
Sen. Kucinich is also the co-chair of the far, far, far left Progressive Caucus - along with 50+ other members of the Democratic Party on Capitol Hill. The man's pushing a soul-destroying socialist agenda, and not for the first time.

Mainstream? By the Numbers: CBC, CHC + Progressive Caucus [it's not about "race"].

23 posted on 02/28/2003 3:27:50 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("This nomination in no way deserves a filibuster." - Washington Post re. Miguel Estrada)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks.
24 posted on 02/28/2003 3:39:33 PM PST by 185JHP ( Brisance. Puissance. Resolve.)
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To: Akron Al
There will come a day in history when our society as a whole awakens and unanimously recognizes the horror of abortion. When that day comes, historians will look back at our time trying to figure out how such a national tragedy could have occurred. These historians will read our newspapers, pour over our correspondence, view our news programs, and examine our voting records. And just as today's historians look back at Nazi Germany concerned solely as to whether or not individuals bravely fought for life or silently consented to a regime of death, historians in the future will be solely concerned with whether or not we spoke up for our unborn brothers and sisters or silently consented to a Culture of Death.

What a laugh. I am quite certain that when historians look back on this era in American history, the books they write will only contain those "old" (pro-life) quotes from people like Kucinich, Clinton, Jackson, etc.

Be prepared for it, folks -- when this country eventually confronts abortion for what it is, we are going to see the most massive revisionist white-washing of history that the world has ever seen.

25 posted on 02/28/2003 4:03:21 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Mr. Thorne
I've got a guy in the local K of C who worked for Kucinich, on his first congressional campaign. Wonder how he feels now?

In light of the many years that passed before the Knights of Columbus mustered the courage to kindly ask pro-abortion "Catholics" like Ted Kennedy to leave, I'd say your friend might actually be quite comfortable with Kucinich.

26 posted on 02/28/2003 4:05:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Be prepared for it, folks -- when this country eventually confronts abortion for what it is, we are going to see the most massive revisionist white-washing of history that the world has ever seen. Human nature being what it is, how it is, I would venture to say this nation will not repudiate its tacit acceptance of serial killers called abortionists. More likely, when those in the future puzzle over the artifacts remaining of this once great nation, they will ask, 'Do we have any idea what it was in that country that allowed their forefathers to espouse inalienable right to life yet operate killing clinics for not yet born alive individuals? Is there some other indication in their history that points to comfort with such duplicitous behavior?' ... and then they will find many examples of same and dismiss this experiment as a 'failure to face reality so we set reality on its head and did as we pleased', even to slaughtering our own children for convenience, in the name of feminist empowerment and schizophrenic 'body privacy rights' that arbitrarily denied younger individual humans the same right that it conveyed overwhelmingly to older female individuals.
27 posted on 02/28/2003 6:12:57 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Less than a week after announcing his decision to explore the possibility of running for president, Kucinich wrote a letter to his local newspaper, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, wherein he publicly renounced his long held pro-life position: "I don't believe in abortion; few do. I do, however, believe in choice."

The choice to abort is nevertheless an abortion. This is the kind of simplistic rhetoric intended to confuse people. Since people are free to do what they want and this includes sleeping with whomever they want (unfortunately,) people associate the right to choose who they're going to bed, with the "right" to have an abortion. That's why politicians especially on the Left make sure to frame abortion as choice, thus choice--having sex--or the lack of it is seen by many as government intrusion in a intimate personal decision.

However, having sex is to engage in the act that creates babies, and if we are free to choose who we have sex with, then, we must accept responsibility for the consequences of our choices, especially when another life is at risk.

28 posted on 02/28/2003 7:09:46 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the heads up!
29 posted on 02/28/2003 7:18:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alberta's Child; Akron Al; Diago
It's time to have Dennis Kucininch D-10 OH
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?dir=&dir=congressorg&ID=468

http://capwiz.com/nrlc/scorecard/?chamber=H&session=107&x=11&y=13#OH

and Bill Pascrell, D-8 NJ, Paterson Council 240
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?dir=&dir=congressorg&ID=389

http://capwiz.com/nrlc/scorecard/?chamber=H&session=107&x=11&y=13#NJ

Resign from the Knights of Columbus

http://www.kofc.org/index_eng.cfm
http://www.kofc.org/contact.cfm
http://www.kofc.org/phone_directory.cfm
info@kofc.org
30 posted on 02/28/2003 7:25:20 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: Coleus
Hi Coleus,

Do one of these links provide evidence that Kucinich is a Knight? Can the Knights kick him out if he does not resign?
31 posted on 02/28/2003 7:52:23 PM PST by Diago
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To: Akron Al
For some reason, I found this interesting from the Kucinich website listings of Staff Members:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/staff/?id=468

Defense: Auke Mahar-Piersma

Foreign Policy: Sapna Chhatpar
32 posted on 02/28/2003 7:57:40 PM PST by Diago
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To: Akron Al
I sent him a letter telling him to consult scripture about abortion and the next day I got a thank you for your support note.

That was a quick "unsubscribe" for me. LOL!
33 posted on 02/28/2003 8:48:34 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: CLEVELAND
fyi
34 posted on 02/28/2003 8:56:49 PM PST by Diago
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To: Akron Al
We have seen many Christians of many denominations whose articles of faith denounce abortion become "soupers" - the most notorious for me is Paul Sarbanes demorat from Maryland - A Greek Orthodox who voted FOR partial birth abortion!
35 posted on 02/28/2003 9:04:40 PM PST by eleni121
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To: Akron Al
Kucinich is such a scum. "I don't believe in abortion; few do. I do, however, believe in choice."

But he now isn’t against abortion. He used to be.

If there is anything worse than an abortionist, it is a politician who goes from pro-life to pro-abortion (pro-choice) in order to gain political advantage.

36 posted on 02/28/2003 9:10:57 PM PST by Diddley (Abortion is the extreme selfish act.)
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To: Coleus
I have to disagree. It's time to have all those bastards tossed out of the Knights of Columbus whether they wish to resign or not.

One reason, BTW, why this Freeper has never been interested in joining the Knights of Columbus is the organization's reluctance to confront their members who take public stands in support of basic violations of human decency.

37 posted on 02/28/2003 9:43:43 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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From the Kucinich website:

I continue to encourage everyone to reach me via email at dkucinich@aol.com . In addition, you may contact me by mail at either of my Cleveland local offices. You can write to me at 14400 Detroit Avenue in Lakewood, Ohio 44107 or at 5983 West 54th Street, Parma, Ohio, 44129. You can also call my office, in Lakewood at 216.228.8850 and in Parma at 440.845.2707.
38 posted on 03/01/2003 7:17:18 AM PST by Diago
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To: MHGinTN
Great link, thanks.

You wrote:

And here's the URL, if you can use it with friends or relatives contemplating hiring a serial killer:

http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/images/thennow/picture.gif


39 posted on 03/01/2003 8:43:42 AM PST by Akron Al
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To: Akron Al
Great post - Thanks:

"Today, we are witnessing a similar real-life morality play. Only this one doesn't involve Irish farmers starving for food. This one involves ambitious politicians starving for power. The soup these politicians are being asked to drink is a concoction of lies and distortions brewed up by the radical feminists and abortion profiteers who now control the Democratic Party. The reward for drinking this soup of death is the right to run for president as a Democrat.

Perhaps not surprisingly, Teddy Kennedy was among those first in line for a taste of the soup. In a 1971 letter, the then pro-life Teddy Kennedy wrote, "The legalization of abortion on demand is not in accordance with the value which our civilization places on human life. Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized -- the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old." By 1980, Teddy had sipped the soup and was running for President as an outspoken supporter of abortion.

40 posted on 03/01/2003 7:02:14 PM PST by victim soul
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