[The Wizard]

Voice your concerns and stop this crap by writing to them at:

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[sharktrager]

Well, I haven't seen the script, but they are already filming.

The reports indicate that the story will be historically accurate, in contrast to the John Wayne classic, which was incorrect in many regards. Of course, in that version, they were portrayed as drunks (remember the barrel of whiskey?), and nobody is upset about that. Also, many of them were slave owners.

The new script is based on historical accounts, including the recently discovered diary of one of Santa Anna's officers. (The diary does not paint a flattering picture of Santa Anna.)

I expect they may portray the end of the battle as including the capture of several of the Texans, which not only fits the available documents, it matches many eastern newspaper accounts of the time. Many choose to believe that they all died fighting, but that version has little or no independant support. Many men, allegedly including Crokett, were executed by Santa Anna after having been captured.

How about we wait to protest until we know what is in the film?

[discostu]

This thing has been in development hell for over a year, don't count on it ever coming out. That being said I rewatched the Alamo last week (for the first time in many years) and I have to say most of the complaints I've heard about the remake can be applied to the original. Drunkards? You mean the kind of people that weep when their barrel gets blown up? Slave owners? One of the most poingant scenes is when Bowie frees his slave and tells him to flee with the non-combatants and the freeman choses to stay and fight can't have that scene without at least one slave owner. Casting the Mexicans in a positive light? Like talking about how brave they were to the point where "even I was killing them I was proud of them". But of course since The Duke did it the original is above reproach, maybe we oughta wait for the remake before we lambast it.

[yankeedame]

Thanks for posting this! I heard about this on the Limbaugh as well.

But one thing I don't get: "They" say that Hollywood makes 70% of its money from overseas and so must make anti-US, etc. etc. movies in order to attrack the non-US audiences. But hasn't Hollywood always gotten a huge % of its money from overseas, even in the 1930-40s and 50's? Yet those movies weren't "modified", shall we say?

(Sigh) Irregardless, poor Walt Disney. The old gentleman must be spinning in his grave like a turbine

[Petronski]

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[Semper Paratus]

Like to see them try to make Santa Anna and his army's atrocity at the Alamo heroic.

[Frank_Discussion]

You'd think they would have learned something from "Dinosaurs"

Gotta Ask: What's the big deal with "Dinosaurs"?

[Lee Heggy]

Hmmm. Let's see, it's 1836 Texas, and there was drinking and slavery....duh! They also didn't floss or take very many baths and I'll bet none of them had a decent manicure in their entire lives. Some of them even ate with their hands and wiped their fingers on a pantleg. Shocking, just shocking.

[baseballfanjm]

Didn't Ron Howard turn this down last year because he wanted to make it *gasp* gritty and violent, and Disney didn't want an R-rated violent movie, despite the fact that FIGHTING IS QUITE VIOLENT?

[mercy]

This is funny.

What's more important to conservatives? The truth or your preferred political propaganda? Read some history. Boone, Crocket, Houston, Bowey and many others were popular fictions created by dime novels of the time.

Of all of em, Crocket was the biggest pile of bunk ever created. He was an ok guy but no hero. Unless you consider bear slaughtering a heroic feat. Of all that he was 'politician' is the most accurate description.

[Valin]

Disney To Desecrate Crockett And The Alamo

I heard this also. Assuming this is true
Memo to the Disney:
Re a hole:
When you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is
STOP DIGGING!!!

[Liberal Classic]

Be ready for General Santa Anna being protrayed as Lincoln fighting for the freedom of slavery in Texas, and the Texicans as southern plantation owners.

Slavery was officially outlawed in Mexico not by Santa Anna, but Vincente. Even though slavery was ostinsibly outlawed, many pesants lived no better than slaves as indentured servants on plantations owned by the Dons. Santa Anna became a national hero routing the Spanish at Tampico under Guerrero, but had political ambitions of his own. Some years before when the Spanish Emporer still ruled Mexico, he married the Emporerer's sister to gain influence. After Mexico's independence from Spain, he helped Bustamente oust Guerrero in a coup, and Bustamente was then beaten in the next election by Santa Anna himself. Anna then began on a campaign to centralize political control, and eventually dissolved the Mexican Congress and appointed himself dictator.

Slavery was a great shame, but it is a deceptive lie if Disney portrays Santa Anna as wanting to free slaves in whitey owned Texas. He didn't want to lose Texas' natural resoures and territory.

As an aside, yesterday was the 156th anniversary of Battle of Buena Vista (called La Angostura by the Mexicans). It was the single bloodiest battle of the Mexican/American War of 1846-1847, which was quite dicey but turned the tide in favor of the US.

[Billthedrill]

Davy Crockett And The Seven Dwarves isn't historic?

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

I was forced to read an essay on this exact subject my Freshman year at a Marxist 4-year University of lower learning. I was then forced to write about John Wayne's depiction of Crockett and how it was "racist" and "insensitive" to the many Mexicans that played a much more vital role in The Alamo than they were given credit for.

The socialist/communist replacement and defication on our idols continues......next stop, demoagogues.

[Centurion2000]

Interesting ... I wonder if Disney realizes that this could also ignite the smoldering fires of nationalism in Texas as well.

Also consider the possible unintended consequences of highlighting the issue with Mexico and the US.

[weegee]

Here's some of the other past FR threads on the Alamo (and this film):

Ron Howard forgets about "The Alamo" - Variety article says that Ron leaves because the project is taking too long and keeping him for working on other films.

Disney to Ron Howard--No Alamo Movie Unless PG Rated

Texas History Gets New Mexican Twist

Battle of the Alamo - Thirteen Days to Glory

[Texas2step]

Here's one review of the script

It doesn't do a lot of good to argue when we don't know the facts....I'm digging for more recent stuff, but this doesn't look as bad as it was made out today on Rush's show.

T2s

[The Wizard]

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