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Some Maine Teachers Traumatizing Students of Deployed Soldiers
WABI- TV Bangor Maine | February 21, 2003 | 6 PM News

Posted on 02/23/2003 9:02:29 AM PST by bogeybob

WABI TV reported Friday that the Maine National Guard Family Assistance Center has received about 30 complaints from children of deployed soldiers concerning Principals, Teachers and Guidance Counselors reportedly demeaning the role of their deployed parent. Some children involved are 7 to 9 years of age.

Here is a letter written to a friend of mine from the Maine Army National Guard:

"Thank you for your interest on this most troubling matter. Our Family Assistance Centers have reported cases from Aroostook County to Southern Maine. We are reluctant to give out specific schools and the individuals involved in the interest of giving the education community a chance to address the problem itself. Also, parents wanted the opportunity to pursue the issue through their local school boards first.

In all, we have over thirty complaints that name schools and individual principals, teachers and guidance counselors. If one considers that these complaints come from just the parents who attended our briefings and only from children who told their parents, we are concerned that the problem may be more widespread than we know.

We are recording the complaints, and I will personally visit these educators to express our concern as a professional organization and ask for their cooperation.

Ultimately, our main concern and first responsibility is the safety of our children during these uncertain times. Maine has a core of dedicated and professional educators, but we will challenge any individual who places our children at risk due to their own political ideologies."


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To: bogeybob; All
There are at least a couple of other threads on this subject now.

For an excellent commentary, see this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/851737/posts?page=1

For a thread with a related story see this one:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/851305/posts

481 posted on 02/25/2003 3:58:24 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: bogeybob
The Maine Guard reports to the Governor, I believe. Governor Baldacci is a Democrat. Any guess as to what party the 'educators' belong to?

Once they are called up, they report to the President, and he is most certainly NOT a DemonRat. Perhaps they should take their complaints to the National Guard Bureau, which is staffed by guardsmen on extended active duty, and thus reporting to the President also.

482 posted on 02/25/2003 4:33:12 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Uncle Jaque
We used to call the sudden silence, extortion.

You good people in Maine will have to keep your eyes and ears open for us and let us know if these left wing traitors start this again.
483 posted on 02/25/2003 4:35:28 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: bogeybob
I think the Guard General does report to the Governor, however.

He does, unless they call him up too. Usually a two star. Very political appointment in most states.

484 posted on 02/25/2003 4:36:43 PM PST by El Gato
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To: TEXOKIE; bogeybob; Uncle Jaque
I've sent a note to the WSJ pointing out that Bogeybob had the story a day earlier with THIS VERY THREAD. Another FreeRepublic scoop. It's obvious because the bloggers repeated a few of my transcription errors from #111!

ANYWAY, THANKS to all for helping to bring this to national attention. If we get proper attribution, way cool, but the important part is the message and getting these teachers STOPPED.

The back tracking of the story is troubling. I'll still go with the word of the Chaplin that 30 complaints were made. If "offers that can't be refused" helped those 30 kids, then we can live with that because the word must be going out quietly to the teachers to cool it.

485 posted on 02/25/2003 4:56:34 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: ozone1
(link to the WSJ Opinion Story, Great Moments in Public Education )
486 posted on 02/25/2003 5:03:07 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: bogeybob
Liberal is a kind word - I live in the area pushing hard for socialized medicine (of course, they don't call it that). I came back to Maine, foolishly remembering it from my youth as a state of individual liberty - it's now gone from "As Maine goes, so goes the nation" to "As Maine goes, so goes Vermont" and last November, "As Maine goes, so goes Maine" - and I am ashamed. Let's all contact WABI (wabi@wabi.tv) and thank them for their report - you won't find it on any other station here!
487 posted on 02/25/2003 5:09:16 PM PST by seahorses3
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To: spunkets
There's no legitimate reason to withold info unless the complaint itself is fabricated.

Of course there is, depending on one's definition of "legitimate". The people at the Maine National Guard dealing with the issue are not activated, some are probably even not guardsmen, but rather civil servant support staff. Full time Guardsmen are civil servents during the normal workweek, even though they wear the military uniform. Weekends they are inactive duty reserve military members, just like the "true" reservists/guardsmen, and if activated are the same as the regular military and only then come under direct federal control. In both inactive duty status and civil service status, they report to the governor through the state staff, in this case they probably are part of the state staff. It wouldn't do to alienate one of the Guv's biggest support groups, unless one is completely happy with one's current pay grade, and plans to retire as soon as eligible, which might mean tomorrow in many cases as guardmen often stay "on board" well past the minimum retirement age/years of service, and it's especially true of the full timers.

488 posted on 02/25/2003 5:35:44 PM PST by El Gato
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To: bogeybob
These Teachers and Administrators need to run into a group of good americans in an alley... Traitors the whole lot of them... unbelievable.. tormenting children over your political beliefs.... real tolerant!!
489 posted on 02/25/2003 5:40:48 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: TEXOKIE
Thank you Tex for the flag. Love thy neighbor, our Lord said, but something like this is what tests my Christianity among other things.

Because I want to slap those 'teachers' silly, tell them to go to you know where, tell them that they have no fathers and their mothers have four legs. Argh! How DARE they!!!
490 posted on 02/25/2003 5:41:24 PM PST by Chong
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To: bogeybob; Uncle George; seahorses3; TEXOKIE; Uncle Jaque; Happy2BMe; snippy_about_it; ...
I'm posting this on behalf of Uncle George. I think this says it all. This should keep this thread going (and I'll learn about bandwidth limits, I'm sure!) God Bless you, Uncle George

Snippy, this is way heartbreaking, post to Canteen at your discretion. Tears on the keyboard ... UG's message follows:

Some Maine school teachers traumatizing young kids of deployed soldiers with anti-war smears. How low can these cowardly anti-American slime go?


491 posted on 02/25/2003 5:45:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
The wives can homeschool

On an enlisted soldiers salary? They have to work. Most Guardsmen and reservists, except for a few officers Major or Lt. Col and above, will take pay cuts for the privelege of serving in the big Sandbox. Unless their employers make up the difference, but that usually only applies for 2 or 3 weeks per year, active duty for training. Some employers don't make it up at all. The really sick thing is that a disproportionate number of guardsmen/reservists are teachers, or that's the way it once was. It's a actually an excellent combination, the guardsmen can put in extra active duty time during the summer, enhancing his skills and/or promotability.

492 posted on 02/25/2003 6:02:07 PM PST by El Gato
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To: NonValueAdded
Great post. Wish I could pull these teachers heads off.
493 posted on 02/25/2003 6:02:47 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
To be clear, this is Uncle George's graphic. He wasn't sure how to post and I offered to host it.

BTW, I'd appreciate FReepmail about good sites that host graphics, etc.

494 posted on 02/25/2003 6:07:35 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: DLfromthedesert
"These teachers have learned well from the "education" colleges they attended.
It's time they get a true American education, so maybe they can learn to appreciate the sacrifices that were made by "evil" people serving their country. "

I agree with you %1000 percent, DL! The liberals have had it their way for far too long in our educational system. Perhaps stunts like this will arouse and alert the sleeping giant to the dangers to our all of our kids.
495 posted on 02/25/2003 6:11:10 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: Grampa Dave
Re: "We used to call the sudden silence, extortion.

Darned strong indication of it, at the very least!

You good people in Maine will have to keep your eyes and ears open for us and let us know if these left wing traitors start this again.

Most of what goes on in the Classroom never gets out - so Parents (our little girl is all growed-up) need to be very attentive to thier youngsters who attend government indoctrination centers as to what is going on in there, and make sure that they get plenty of responsible adult role modeling and mentoring so that they well recognize PC/BS when they hear it.

Open up that book-bag - I would do it WITH my child - and check out what these kids are issued for textbooks. Are they about RR&R, or the Thoughts of Mao? Discuss any concerns with them, and why we cherish the things that are important to us.

We also need to be receptive to any indication of confusion a child might have between the values and traditions taught at home versus what they are being indoctrinated with at schrool. (I meant to mis-spell that, by the way; do you like it? It's a Rushism, actually.)

I would not have any problem with bugging the little rascal's bookbag every now and then with a recorder. They might get quite a kick out of being the President's little "Secret Agent" behind liberal lines.

Get our kids to spy on THEM before the Educational operatives work their minds sufficiently so as to get them to spy on YOU - like they did for Hitler and Stalin, or in Orwell's "1984". Would it be paranoid to suppose that some of them are doing it now?

Scarey, huh?

One way or another, the people entrusted with our Children's care and development for such a major chunk of their childhood need to be constantly reminded that they are being watched, and WILL be held accountable for violations of that sacred trust.

496 posted on 02/25/2003 6:11:41 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (God Bless America!; May He find us worthy of the FREEDOM He has so Graciously bestowed upon us!)
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To: NonValueAdded
OK thanks for posting it for Uncle George and thanks Uncle George for the image it is a good one.
You have mail.
498 posted on 02/25/2003 6:13:14 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: TEXOKIE
rebumping.

Sean Hannity can also be contacted at
hannity@foxnews.com

He probably has different staff reading his e-mail there so it is probably worth forwarding info to both his e-addies.

499 posted on 02/25/2003 6:18:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Let the liberals whine -- it's what they do.)
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To: Husker24
Why cant you call a marine sir?

You can if he's an officer. Just don't call an enlisted Marine, or most any NCO of any branch, "sir" unless you want a good ass whooping, or at minimum a big chunk chewed out of it. Their reply would be something on the order of "Don't me Sir, I work for a living" :)

500 posted on 02/25/2003 6:18:39 PM PST by El Gato
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