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Missouri Cherokee Tribes proclaim Jewish Heritage
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| February 7, 2003
| Editorial Staff
Posted on 02/21/2003 1:42:37 PM PST by vannrox
Missouri Cherokee Tribes proclaim Jewish Heritage
by Staff
February 7, 2003
The Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory has recently shocked the world by claiming their ancient Oral legends tell of a Cherokee migration made to America from the area known as Masada.
This startling evidence is being offered to the public by Beverly Baker Northup whom is the spokesperson for their organization. The evidence offered in support of this connection to Cherokees escaping the mountain fortress of Masada is based in part of what Northup claims is stories passed down from elders and the similarity between ancient words.
Beverly Baker Northup believes there is a connection between these two peoples based on evidence of Jews of the region around Masada during Roman times wearing braided hair and the similarities that the spokesperson attributes to Hebrew language.
In explaining this connection Beverly Baker Northup is quoted as saying:
"The story has been kept alive among our Cherokee people that the Sicarii who escaped from Masada, are some of our ancestors who managed to cross the water to this land, and later became known as Cherokees. (Please note the phonetic resemblance of Si'cari'i and, Cherokee or Tsa'ra-gi'.)"
Northup claims that the famous scholar Josephus wrote that there were escapees from Masada in which the spokesperson for the Northern Cherokee states that this is evidence that gives credence to this connection between the Cherokee Indians and the Jews.
In addition to other startling claims, there is also the belief by the Northern Cherokee that a rock that was uncovered in Tennessee in 1889 that is named the Bat Creek Stone, proves a transatlantic connection to Jews.
Northup believes that the scratched writings on the rock indicate that the stone is evidence of a first century Atlantic Crossing to America by these escaped Jews that later became known as the Northern Cherokee Indians.
The Northern Cherokee attempted to gain full legislative recognition in the State of Missouri in 1985 that was eventually vetoed by Governor John Ashcroft. Governor Ashcroft made the following statement concerning his decision to veto the recognition of the Northern Cherokee:
"The Federal Government has traditionally exercised authority with respect to Indian Affairs. I am not persuaded that the state has such a substantial interest in this area that it should become involved in the recognition of Indian tribes."
Sources among some federally recognized Indian Tribes have stated that Mr. Ashcroft's comments were 100% correct and should be referred to from time to time.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bible; cherokee; decalogue; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; heritage; history; indian; jew; jewish; loslunas; losttribes; oy; past; tencommandments; tribe
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To: C19H28O2
I'll take that as
a
"No,"
Perhaps you could do
an excellant parody
and learn 000.000000000000000% useful anything in the process.
But I can understand that.
Vicarious experience learning is lost on a lot of people.
141
posted on
02/21/2003 6:15:26 PM PST
by
Quix
(OTHER TASKS DELAY ME BUT STILL PLANNING TO GET KATHLEEN'S FINAL WARNING EXCERPTS UP)
To: vannrox
From the 1st quarter 2003 newsletter of Mormonism Researched:
The book 'American Apocrypha' (Signature, 2002) contains an essay entitled "Lamanite, Genesis, Genealogy and Genetics."
The essay's author, Thomas W. Murphy, is a Mormon anthropologist who... says "So far, DNA research has lent no support to the traditional Mormon beliefs about the origins of Native Americans. Instead, genetic data have confirmed that migrations from Asia are the primary source of American Indian origins (pp. 47-48)."
To: Just mythoughts
I don't have sufficient knowledge in hand to be emphatic at all.
But my review of the linguisticdata presented to me over a year ago was convincing enough to say--why not--could well be.
143
posted on
02/21/2003 6:19:58 PM PST
by
Quix
(OTHER TASKS DELAY ME BUT STILL PLANNING TO GET KATHLEEN'S FINAL WARNING EXCERPTS UP)
To: Just mythoughts
So how much did Clinton get from the Indians to hide it.I live right across the river from where the bones were found.
The Army Corp of Engineers was right there to cover over the site when our congressman Doc Hastings put in a bill to prevent them from doing so. The bill passed the House then it passed the Senate, but before it was recorded someone (You guessed who) gave the Corp the orders to cover it over. They covered it with burlap and plants so they would never be able to get to the place again.
144
posted on
02/21/2003 6:21:13 PM PST
by
Spunky
To: EggsAckley
The problem is that Hebrew writting was indistinguishable from modern Hebrew 2000 years ago. Check out the Dead Sea Scrolls.
145
posted on
02/21/2003 6:25:43 PM PST
by
rmlew
To: Hodar
Joseph Smith, the co-author of Mormonism (the father of all the lies, satan, being the other), nor Mormonism have been validated one iota. You have a 'linking' challenge here.
146
posted on
02/21/2003 6:26:00 PM PST
by
ApesForEvolution
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To: RipeforTruth
Instead, genetic data have confirmed that migrations from Asia are the primary source of American Indian origins (pp. 47-48)."Did you see my post above at #131?
If I recall Jim Chatters said the Kennewick Man most resembled Asiatic ancestary.
147
posted on
02/21/2003 6:26:50 PM PST
by
Spunky
To: C19H28O2
"Infant damnation is an extra-Biblical Catholic invention. "
I'm not sure that everyone will agree. I know some baptists that believe it.
148
posted on
02/21/2003 6:29:07 PM PST
by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops....)
To: Illbay
Interesting that people without a strong base in God's Word will fall for just about anything...
149
posted on
02/21/2003 6:33:06 PM PST
by
ApesForEvolution
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To: C19H28O2
"Yep, they will. "As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be." This is all I need to know about the Mormon cult in order to dismiss it altogether."
The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth of the New Testament has no semblance of the jesus made up by Joseph Smith/Mormon cult in their add-on book...
150
posted on
02/21/2003 6:35:21 PM PST
by
ApesForEvolution
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To: C19H28O2
"Anger Management for Dummies"
151
posted on
02/21/2003 6:37:39 PM PST
by
ApesForEvolution
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To: blam
Wax on, wax off?
To: Bosco
They would be double victims, right? Indian and Jewish.SIGH.
To: Hodar; StolarStorm; fishtank; drstevej
The masada incident occurred in 66 AD and Masada was builty by King Herod. Now the Book of mormon has the Jews coming over in 600 b.c. over 600 years BEFORE Masada was built.
If this story of the Cherokee connection to Masada is true, it does not validate Joseph Smith, it repudiates him.
You'd better go looking for some new golden plates because the ones Joe Smith dug up are not vindicated by this legend.
Keep Trying.
154
posted on
02/21/2003 6:41:43 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(If the King James Version was good 'nuff for Old Moses then its good 'nuff for me.)
To: Spunky
Yes, I read your post and bookmarked the link.
If DNA suggests that the American Indians are closer related to peoples of Asia (rather than the Jews), then I would think that the Umatilla Tribe could still lay claim to the Kennewick man.
To: Eastbound
"Similar to Sumer, it appears. Wouldn't surprise me if they find evidence showing both had the same benefactor(s)." LOL. I just completed reading the book, Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders, by Dr Robert Scoch, that's exactly the theme of this book. He speculates that all the world's pyramid builders came from the Sunda Shelf (around present Indonesia) as the shelf went underwater at the end of the last Ice Age. I found out from this book that the world's second oldest bronze metal working site is in Thailand.
156
posted on
02/21/2003 6:44:22 PM PST
by
blam
To: Hodar
Please, J. Smith was a false prophet.
157
posted on
02/21/2003 6:45:03 PM PST
by
Hila
To: Spunky
158
posted on
02/21/2003 6:50:02 PM PST
by
blam
To: Spunky
"If I recall Jim Chatters said the Kennewick Man most resembled Asiatic ancestary." The DNA analysis on Kennewick Man was officially declared 'undetermined.' Unofficially Chatters gives a 'rough' rundown of the DNA that was obtained and Ainu at 23% was the highest.
Chatters said that there are no American Indian/Native American (as we know them today) skeletons ever found in North America that are older than 6,000 years.
Skeletons like Kennewick Man, Spirit Cave Man, Buhl Woman and etc, belong to another earlier and completely different racial group of people than the American Indians.
159
posted on
02/21/2003 6:59:37 PM PST
by
blam
To: Illbay; fishtank; drstevej; C19H28O2
I think it's "sad and sick" to believe that we are all doomed because Adam transgressed.You're not doomed because Adam transgressed;
You are doomed because you're LDS
Hey that rhymes!
160
posted on
02/21/2003 7:04:42 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(If the King James Version was good 'nuff for Old Moses then its good 'nuff for me.)
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