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Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait
The Detroit News | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER

Some see America’s patriotic mood waning.

Campujairi, Kuwait – The peace protesters might as well be marching right under the tank barrels.

U.S. troops amassed in the Kuwaiti desert couldn’t avoid news of anti-war protests that swept the globe over the weekend, and it is making some angry, defensive, fired-up and anxious.

They see scattered news reports of opposition to a possible war against Iraq, but the hardest-hitting bulletins come in phone calls home to worried wives and loved ones, said Sgt. 1st Class Victor Oravec, 41, of Fort Knox, Ky., of the U.S. Army’s 3-7 Cavalry.

“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

“They hear it. They bring it up to me, and I squash it by keeping them busy, reminding them why they’re here,” Oravec said, just before leading his tank maintenance unit in an all-night training exercise across the Kuwaiti desert.

Many of the soldiers who might be called to fight against Iraq were too young to remember the emotional protests that marked the end of the Vietnam War. Many had not even been born.

Still, some say they take the anti-war protests personally – questioning the jobs they do and their boss, President Bush.

“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives are telling them.”

Capt. John Turner, 26, of Colonial Heights, Va., whose father was a med-evac pilot for the Army in Vietnam, said soldiers are not decision-makers and can’t afford to get distracted from their training.

“I’m not in this line of work for political reasons. I didn’t come here to be a politician,” Turner said.

Still, he’s especially angry about opposition at the United Nations from France, a NATO ally.

“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

The troops see a possible war against Iraq as part of the ongoing war on terrorism, as the Bush administration targets alleged weapons of mass destruction that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Protesters call that an unfounded or unproven claim being used to justify a war to control more of the Middle East’s vast oil reserves.

The “No blood for oil” slogan was used in opposition to the 1991 war, too. But back then, in the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi invaders, the protests did not seem as widespread and the troops did not take them so personally, Gulf War veterans said.

“That’s their right to protest as long as they know that’s their opinion, not ours,” said 1st Sgt. Stephen Edgerton, 36, a Gulf War veteran from Blackshear, Ga.

“When you’re younger, you’re a little more eager to go out and pick a fight with somebody,” Edgerton said. “With age, you’re not as quick to jump into things without thinking them out first.”

But for soldiers, he said, the bottom line is simple: “I support my Commander in Chief. That’s my job.”

Pvt. Wesley Carr, 23, of Virginia Beach, Va., said soldiers are the last ones who want to rush into unnecessary wars.

“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said. “I hope, like everyone else, that it does end peacefully. But if it doesn’t and we have to go to war, we have to think of the safety of the United States and all these people here.”

Privately, some soldiers wonder if the patriotic mood and pro-military spirit in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks has evaporated.

With all its soldiers and high-tech war fighting machines, the U.S. military would not have had all its recent success if the soldiers didn’t get so much support from the public, Edgerton said.

“They don’t have to support what’s happening,” he said, “but at least support the soldiers”

Iraq Update
1st U-2 Mission: Iraq reported the first flight by an American U-2 surveillance plane Monday in support of the U.N. inspection mission, marking another concession by the Baghdad government in hopes of staving off a U.S. –led attack. The flight lasted four hours.

Turkey Delays:
Turkey’s prime minister on Monday ruled out a parliamentary vote to allow tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops on its territory until Turkish and U.S. officials agree on the conditions of the deployment.


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To: BOBTHENAILER
Our troops need to be reading and hearing the other article that is posted today entitled: Behind Enemy Lines: A View of the SF Peace Rally....this needs to have more coverage...it isn't about Iraq these rallys..but no matter what President Bush did we would have these agendas...as noted nothing like this happened under Clinton.....these folks agenda is to make us a Socialist society. God bless our troops....everyone send that article to your local news the Behind Enemy Lines: A View of the SF Peace Rally.
61 posted on 02/18/2003 8:17:50 AM PST by LADYAK
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To: BOBTHENAILER; piasa; SLB; DoughtyOne; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; FreedomPoster; MonroeDNA; ...
Damn the presstitutes , polidiots , hollywood, and stinking rainbow hippie socialists that number less than a single small town population in number !

FNC, PMSNBC, CBSABCNBC, CNN ect ect all are doing a diservice to their nation by giving these POS protestors face time while the rest of the population who number in the multi-millions support the War on Terrorism, the troops both at home and deployed and the President of this nation.

Folks who watched those towers fall, people jumping to their death, the Pentagon Burning and the self sacrifice we learned of ,... the passengers on the plane that crashed in PA , the rescuers, the victims phone calls ect ect that horrible day in September remember all too well what needs to be done.

These troops need to know that were depending on them to take the fight to the enemy, it's planners, it's bankers and it's trainers in what ever nation they seek and are given comfort "before they can deliver their plan onto American soil".

AMERICA FIRST ! I AM 101% BEHIND EVERY TROOP DEFENDING OUR NATION AND THEIR FAMILIES !!

E-mail, talk with , and go do something for a deployed troop ! SHOW THEM YOUR SUPPORT WITH DEEDS ! Change the oil in their car, heck just wash and wax it for em....mow their lawn, take their kids to a sporting event (give the spouse that stayed behind some time from the kids), send a CARE PACKAGE to the deployed troop. Talk to the ones about to get deployed, make arraingements so their families know that they can call on you and your family and friends without guilt or need to payback anything if an emergency arises at home .

Then write to the presstitutes about the equal time, fair and balanced BS high ethical standards they proclaim to have (spit)........

....sorry for the rant. But I'm not going to let the Vietnam era style protest's destroy the confidence real Americans have in their troops going in harms way. If I have doubt or a problem with the way things are going I'll write to or visit my congresscritter or polidiot in person. Not to some disinformational presstitution spin machine that will use it for propaganda and a self serving anti-American agenda.

Stay Safe !

62 posted on 02/18/2003 8:19:06 AM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: SeenTheLight; American Preservative; deeel-me-in; Drango; jiggyboy; nastypumps; rogue yam; ...
Mega ping! Are you glad we stood up for our troops!
64 posted on 02/18/2003 8:21:00 AM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: Mo1
Thank you so much for your post and agreement! Hugs!
65 posted on 02/18/2003 8:21:35 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mo1
Thank you so much for your post and agreement! Hugs!
66 posted on 02/18/2003 8:21:35 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JohnHuang2
Another bullseye, JH2!
67 posted on 02/18/2003 8:22:04 AM PST by SerpentDove (Shave the whales.)
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To: SerpentDove
Thanks, friend.
68 posted on 02/18/2003 8:24:00 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Squantos
Sir Squantos, do not apologize for saying what you feel.

That is not a rant.

We will see a lot of us posting similiar words before we start liberating Iraq.

We are pi$$ed off and starting to take names and kick some butt re the left wingers who cheer for the Dark Side Islamofacists like their cash cow, their Uncle Soddomite!
69 posted on 02/18/2003 8:24:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: HiJinx
Hi, HJ!
70 posted on 02/18/2003 8:24:22 AM PST by Pippin (Have you hugged a hobbit today?)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I'm not violent but I have my limits. When debate fails, knock them down. I don't know how we can destroy it, (legally). It would just be nice if the media didn't give these urineants so much coverage. I'd love to live in a world where everybody got along and nobody was hungry but that has never been and will never be this world. Since this is what I have I'll make the most of it. Everyone has a right to an opinion but sometimes the best way to express yourself is with silence. They should go protest somewhere else like maybe go be one of those human shields. I'd donate toward airfare.
71 posted on 02/18/2003 8:25:58 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: JohnHuang2

((((((((((JOHN)))))))!


72 posted on 02/18/2003 8:25:59 AM PST by Pippin (Have you hugged a hobbit today?)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The Asia Times has an article asking where all the Arab protesters were. 10 million idiots turn out in Europe, 600 in the streets of Cairo (surrounded by 3000 police).

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EB19Ak07.html

73 posted on 02/18/2003 8:26:14 AM PST by Oatka
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To: Michael81Dus
Right on Michael. The UK troops are much like we were in the Viet Nam era re too many people in the street against them.
74 posted on 02/18/2003 8:26:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

They'd think it was Art.

75 posted on 02/18/2003 8:26:48 AM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Pippin
Hi, Pippin!

{{{{{H O B B I T}}}}}

76 posted on 02/18/2003 8:27:27 AM PST by HiJinx (I love the high desert!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Anyone hear on the Rush Limbaugh show yesterday the perentage of the world's population that protested? Think it was something like 1/500s of 1 percent -- the bottom dregs of the earth's population (and they all need a bath).

On the other hand, our troops are the top percent -- the best this world has. God bless them all.

77 posted on 02/18/2003 8:28:05 AM PST by EverOnward
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To: Squantos
....sorry for the rant. But I'm not going to let the Vietnam era style protest's destroy the confidence real Americans have in their troops going in harms way.

No apologies necessary for that great description of the traitorous bastards in our media and the opposition party. They will rue the day they didn't support our magnificent troops.

78 posted on 02/18/2003 8:28:23 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
And some people say that the so called protests are not giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States. I say "like hell they aren't". As for bucking up the moral of the troops, show them a few of their Comander in Chief's speeches since 9-11, interspersed with shots of the WTC, the Cole, Khobar towers, etc. Maybe a nice docudrama on Flight 93 if one exists. They'll get the idea. That's over the next few days to a couple of weeks. After that it's time for "Saddle Up" and "Lets Roll!"


79 posted on 02/18/2003 8:30:05 AM PST by El Gato
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To: HiJinx
Thanks for the hug

((((((HJ))))))!

And to show my support of the President, our country and our troops,

I'm changing my tagline to read:

80 posted on 02/18/2003 8:31:27 AM PST by Pippin (Pippin: Warrior Hobbit!)
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