[Blood of Tyrants]

Davis believes the 500 Magnum has a greater potential for becoming a lethal inner-city status symbol

COMPLRTELY ignoring the fact that gang bangers simply don't carry 4 1/2 lb. $900 guns around. If having the most powerful gun was a status symbol amog gang bangers, then they would all be carrying .454 Casull's.

[Lunatic Fringe]

"It's hard for me to rationalize any particular need or purpose" for the 500 Magnum, said Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.). "I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

That's right... and the 500 Magnum is made to kill really BIG people.

[going hot]

"Those of us who live in big, urban centers have a different fear and a different take than some people who may live in different environments."

Sounds like the problem is one of living in the wrong place, or so he thinks.

He added that its high power combined with its concealability could make it the "weapon of choice" for urban gangs.....
"If you live in a place like Chicago, and you know the amount of violence that is perpetrated by individuals who grow-up with the idea that having, handling and using a gun is a way-of-life in terms of establishing yourself on the streets or as part of the culture, then I'm afraid that many of these individuals will, in fact, acquire this weapon," Davis said.

This guy's problem is the same as most of these gun grabbers. They simply project their own weaknesses and inabilities to cope on to others, and think that others will blow up in rage and grab the nearest gun and start blasting away, therefore others would do the same. In a nutshell, they are fearful of themselves.

It is they who need to get a grip, and realize that the majority of gun owners are not psychotic, weak willed, temper tantrum throwing liberals.

[angry beaver norbert]

Hark, the cry of the 'Morono Ignorante' gun grabbers rises in the crisp night air like the haunted call of the loon from the heart of the swamp! What a bunch of idiots! I'd like to see someone conceal one of those.Besides, you really don't take a five shot revolver to start a gunfight with these days.

[epow]

"You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver," Davis said.

As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a maroon!" That statement alone clearly demonstrates this political hack's total ignorance about firearms and hunting.

In fact, literally tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands, of hunters use handguns of all types and calibers for hunting game from squirrels and rabbits up to moose and Kodiak bears. Revolvers chambered for the .454 Casull, .476 Linebaugh, .45-70, and even the relatively puny .44 mag, have been used for many years to take dangerous game the size of Cape buffalo and larger. Not to mention single shot hand cannons like the TC Contender which are chambered for centerfire rifle rounds.

I haven't seen the ballistics of the new S&W .50, but I would bet it isn't any more powerful than the .476 Linebaugh which has been available in custom revolvers for over a decade. I would also bet that neither the .476, .454 Casull, .480 Ruger, or .45-70 (revolver), have ever been used to deliberately kill or injure a human being, nor to commit any crime period.

[upchuck]

"If you've got something that masquerades as a handgun, but has the firepower of a major weapon, you're all at risk," said Illinois State House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie. "This is not the Wild West. It hasn't been for a long time."

Has she inadvertently found the problem?

[Moose4]

Five pounds and fifteen inches long, and this idiot is babbling about "concealability?" Yeah, just look for the gangbangah walking through South Central in July wearing a trenchcoat and listing twenty degrees to port. Riiight.

}:-)4

[cake_crumb]

For several years I've had this, from Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO), saved on disk...

ADL LIE: "Gun control" makes you safer, at the cost of "minor" inconvenience, e.g., permits, waiting periods, registration bans on, and confiscation of, some firearms and magazines.

JPFO FACT: The down-side to "gun control" is genocide, and mortal peril to those in the U.S. armed services, who have recently been deployed overseas thanks to "gun control".

In this century there have been at least seven major genocides in which at least 56,000,000 persons, including millions of children, have been murdered by officials of governments "gone bad". The seven cases are:

1915 - 1917 Ottoman Turkey, 1.5 million Armenians murdered;

1929 - 1953 Soviet Union, 20 million people that opposed Stalin were murdered;

1933 - 1945 Nazi occupied Europe, 13 million Jews Gypsies and others that opposed Hitler were murdered;

1948 - 1952 China, 20 million anti communists;

1960 - 1981 Guatemala, 100,000 Mayan Indians Murdered;

1971 - 1979 Uganda, 300,000 Christians and Political Rivals of Idi Amin murdered;

1975 - 1979 Cambodia, 1 million educated persons murdered.TOTAL VICTIMS: 56 MILLION!

In every case, there was on the books before the murdering began, at least one "gun control" law, sometimes the last of a series. In five of the seven cases, "gun control" was first enacted by a regime that came before the genocide regime -- sometimes decades before.

[Atlas Sneezed]

"Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.). "I think guns are made to kill people."

This is essentially right. Guns are made to immediately stop or deter those who would harm innocent people. This applies to violent criminals, as well as to the agents of tyranny.

The ability of guns to kill is essential to their function as the tools that preserve our freedoms.

[boris]

Lucky I just got a .480 Ruger Super Red Hawk. 0.02 under the "ban limit" on the diameter. Sweet.

Now if I could just find me a NEOS in stainless...

--Boris

[Redcloak]

"I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

I like cheese, Danny-boy. That's my opinion. And you'll get my cheese long before you get my guns!

[archy]

I really have no use for Smith and Wesson, nor for one of their overpriced and underfinished handguns. If I want something suitable for nailing a bear, I'll use a short shotgun with slugs, or better, a decent rifle; if portability is an issue, as it was back in the days when I was flying a shortwing Piper Tri-Pacer around Alaska's dirtfield and bush airstrips, I might consider the new S&W cartridge, but almost certainly not in the S&W-made pistol. And in a Thompson Center contender, the cartridge might be well-suited for hunting moose or elk, and maybe even whitetail deer, maybe downloaded a smidgen.

But that said, I'd much rather live in a world where the S&W .500 Magnum revolver exists and Illinois Quisling politician Danny Davis does not than vice versa. And if both are removed from the American scene, I would certainly more miss the passing of the handgun, for which I could conceivably come up with a use, than that of the cheap shyster politico, for whom I can see no good use at all.

[Djarum]

"If you live in a place like Chicago, and you know the amount of violence that is perpetrated by individuals who grow-up with the idea that having, handling and using a gun is a way-of-life in terms of establishing yourself on the streets or as part of the culture, then I'm afraid that many of these individuals will, in fact, acquire this weapon," Davis said.

"And, of course, the thing will be, 'I've got the most powerful piece on the block,'" he said.

By this logic they will buy the most powerful weapon available until every calibre is banned.

[Gunslingr3]

If Rep. Davis understood the Bill of Rights he understands that gun is to protect us from him. No wonder he wants to ban it...

[Protagoras]

He claimed handguns in general are specifically designed kill fellow human beings, whereas rifles and shotguns are typically relegated to hunting animals.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

hunt the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[Sergio]

Hi

So S&W is learning what we knew all along. You can't trust a rat.

When S&W got on board with the Clinton administration, it was with the understanding that if S&W did what the government wanted, the government would protect S&W from local suits and laws such as the one proposed.

If you choose to sleep with dogs, don't complain about the fleas.

That being said, the 2nd Ammendment trumps any feelings of betrayal I have towards S&W, especially now that they are American owned again. I hope they do well and that the RATS continue with their anti-gun rant to their political doom at the polls.

Best Regards

Sergio

[robertpaulsen]

"Davis believes the 500 Magnum has a greater potential for becoming a lethal inner-city status symbol"

I guess he forgot that he helped to pass legislation making it illegal to possess a gun inside Chicago city limits.

Don't worry about the gang bangers, Danny, it's illegal for them to own one.

BTW, I thought we got rid of Saturday Night Specials because the gang bangers were using them. So what is it? Ban $90 guns or $900 guns?

[Wasichu]

Here are the specs for a revolver called "Thunder-Five" which also shoots 45/.410:
Caliber: .45 Long Colt & .410-bore shotshells
Action: Single & double action.
Capacity: Five shots.
Length: Nine inches, overall.
Weight: 48 ounces.
Barrel Length: Two inches.
Safeties: Internal draw bar safety, ambidextrous hammer blocking safety lever, adult trigger pull, and CHILD RESISTANT loading feature.
Finish: Durable phosphate finish.
Features: Fixed combat sights & Pachmayr grips.


You can see the photo at http://www.thunder5.com/
(I've forgotten how to post the pics...)

[Clemenza]

Davis is WRONG! Handguns have been BANNED in Chicago since the administration of Jane Byrne. There CAN'T be a problem with magnums in Chicago!
>p>
As hard as it may be for you guys to believe, there was a time when I WISHED that I had Danny Davis as my congressmen. That was because my congressman at the time was none other than Bobby "Da Panther" Rush.

[Dan from Michigan]

"You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver," Davis said.

WRONG, Danny. Wrong. If you ever leave Sickago, you may learn something. Handgun hunting is becoming more and more popular. It's more of a challenge than rifle.

Davis believes the 500 Magnum has a greater potential for becoming a lethal inner-city status symbol

44 Mag? How come it's usually .22, .25 or .32 calibers that are used in gang crimes?

[GovernmentShrinker]

"I'm going to look at the technology, as I say, and see if there is any way to specifically keep it from operating in the state of Illinois," Flynn said.

This statement contains the seed of a great sci-fi flick. The smart gun engineers still haven't figured out how to make one that will only fire for the authorized user, and this lady wants them to devise one that won't fire within the state of Illinois! Let's see, maybe Illinois can broadcast some special frequency throughout the state -- but not beyond state lines (gotta work on that detail), which will activate a special chip that S&W will be forced to implant in the 500s to block firing. Yeah, that's it. Send this Flynn-Currie lady to Hollywood so she can get started on her screenwriting career.