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Why do goldfish die?
United Press International ^ | 2/17/2003 | Alex Cukan

Posted on 02/17/2003 7:39:26 PM PST by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Goldfish might be the most popular pet in the United States but all too often the orange fish can be found floating at the top of their bowls. Why do goldfish die?

"Like with many pets, people are often unaware of what goldfish really need, they don't get the advice they need and they don't know the right questions to ask," Paula Powell, director of husbandry at the Dallas World Aquarium, told UPI's Animal Health.

"But even if the goldfish owner deals with water temperature, filtration and feeding, the fish could die because it was inbred or diseased -- some varieties do not do well."

The goldfish, a member of the carp family, is a pretty hardy fish that with proper care can live 10-to-15 years and even up to 20 years, Powell said.

What a pet owner should not do is to wake up one Saturday, decide having some goldfish would be a good idea, buy them and the aquarium and think it will take only a few hours on the weekend to set everything up.

"There's a plethora of reference materials in libraries, pet stores and the Web on tropical fish and each fish deserves to have its owner do a little boning up because if properly maintained a goldfish can be a 10-year or more commitment," George Parsons, director of aquarium collections at the John G. Shedd Aquarium in Chicago, told UPI.

When a pet owner determines what type of goldfish he or she wants, that person also must decide how many fish, what type of aquarium, what type of filter, vacuum, gravel or heater will be needed. Prepare to do some math.

The Goldfish Sanctuary, a Web page on petlibrary.com, suggests using the following formula to determine how many fish can live in a rectangular tank:

-- Surface Area = Length times Depth

-- Inches of goldfish = Surface Area divided by 30

For example, if the tank is 18 inches long, 10 inches deep, and 10 inches high, multiply the length (18) by the depth (10), which equals 180 square inches of surface area. A goldfish needs 30 square inches of surface area for each inch of fish. This size tank could accommodate six one-inch fish, three two-inch fish, two three-inch fish, or a combination.

"Purchase a tank as large as you can afford because the more water there is the more time people have before waste can hurt the fish," Parsons said. "The larger the tank the larger the margin of error."

Placing a tank should be given consideration. A tank can be very heavy and should be placed on a strong surface. The water for a 10-gallon tank weighs 85 pounds; a 100-gallon tank weighs close to a half-ton, according to petlibrary.com.

A tank should not be placed near a sunny window or a heater, but it should be near an electrical outlet, a little out of the way so people and other pets don't knock into it and somewhat close to a water faucet because water will have to be changed.

"Remember that you will spill water around the tank inevitably, never put the tank on an appliance, antique, etc.," advises petlibrary.com. "Goldfish grow quickly, especially when cared for well, and they will need as much space as you can provide. A small tank or fishbowl does not provide as much space, and can sometimes stunt the growth of goldfish or cause other developmental problems."

If gravel is chosen for the aquarium, it must be washed. Nonporous rocks can be added but Parsons warned gravel and rocks can trap food and fish waste, which makes cleaning more difficult.

Petlibrary.com recommends purchasing rocks and plants from a pet dealer because rocks from nature can contain pollutants that could poison the fish.

Most tap water contains chlorine, which needs to dissipate before being added to the tank. One way is to fill a bucket and let it stand for 24 hours before pouring it into the tank. This allows the water to warm to room temperature -- the right temperature for goldfish.

Petlibrary.com recommends letting a new tank run for two weeks before adding fish so any faulty equipment or hidden leaks can be addressed.

"Mass produced fish, often given as prizes in contests, live in crowded tanks, often aren't fed enough, may be inbred, and start out with a lot of strikes against them," Parsons said. "But a common goldfish is available in many grades in pet stores and other pet outlets."

He warned never to buy a fish from a pet dealer where dead fish are floating in the tank "because the rest of the fish can be sick, or get sick later. Seek a knowledgeable and reputable pet dealer and never buy from a tank that is cloudy or has an odor."

Petlibrary.com also recommends taking fish home in a shaded container or perhaps in a picnic cooler, to maintain body temperature, so the fish are not stressed.

"The tank water is best changed on a schedule such as twice a week. More often and it stresses the fish, less often and the fish won't have enough oxygen and won't eat," Parsons said. "Since it's impossible to tell if a goldfish is male or female, it is possible a couple could mate but it's unlikely because goldfish need temperature changes and seasonality to spawn."

Despite research and careful planning, the fish still can get sick. How can you tell?

"Some may never tell that a fish is sick until it starts floating at the top of the tank, but some hobbyists study their fish carefully and can detect signs and symptoms of disease," Dan Conklin, of the Florida Aquarium in Tampa, told UPI. "New fish added to an established tank should be guaranteed for a while to make sure they are not sick, because some fish may appear healthy but are carriers of disease."

Conklin said the best place to get advice for a sick fish is the pet dealer because a there are few fish veterinarians and it makes no economic sense "to take a five-dollar fish to a vet that charges many times that amount."

He said goldfish can die from water that is too hot or too cold, a buildup of ammonia from food not eaten or fishwaste and overfeeding, so although keeping a goldfish without filtration or heaters or fans is possible, it might not produce long-term results.

Still, it is possible to keep a goldfish with gravel in a goldfish bowl. UPI's Animal Health babysat a goldfish that lived in a goldfish bowl for three weeks with aqua gravel. This important assignment was for a 7-year-old girl who had gone on vacation. The fish survived.


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1 posted on 02/17/2003 7:39:26 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Why do goldfish die?

The bass eat them. Then, we eat the bass.

/john

2 posted on 02/17/2003 7:49:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Willie Green
Goldfish in Blenders Spark Outrage

I was thinking someone should do a sequel; a piece which looks identical but in which the blenders are rewired so that the start button, rather than turning on the blender, will give a significant but harmless shock to anyone who pushes it.

Think that would be a good piece of performance art?

3 posted on 02/17/2003 7:52:30 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: Willie Green
Why do goldfish die?

It's their nature.

4 posted on 02/17/2003 7:52:59 PM PST by LibKill (FIRE! and LOTS OF IT!)
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To: Willie Green
Well, my goldfish used to die because they had the misfortune of being placed in a tank with three Piranha.
5 posted on 02/17/2003 7:53:16 PM PST by yooper
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To: Willie Green
An easier way to prevent the worries of senseless goldfish deaths is to put an Oscar in the tank.
6 posted on 02/17/2003 7:55:07 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Willie Green
Our goldfish really don't do well when herons and raccoons pull them out of the pond for a closer look.
7 posted on 02/17/2003 7:55:23 PM PST by Think free or die
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Ours died when my two year old decided that they needed a bath, with soap. She left the bar of soap in the bowl and they were -- let's just say, not swimming around the next morning.
8 posted on 02/17/2003 7:56:01 PM PST by It's me
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To: Willie Green
Q: What is gold and red and goes 500 miles an hour?

A: A goldfish in a blender.

Q: What goes "glub, glub, glub, BOOM!" A: A goldfish in the microwave.

9 posted on 02/17/2003 7:56:13 PM PST by friendly
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To: Willie Green
Q: What is gold and red and goes 500 miles an hour?

A: A goldfish in a blender.

Q: What goes "glub, glub, glub, BOOM!"?

A: A goldfish in the microwave.

10 posted on 02/17/2003 7:56:43 PM PST by friendly
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To: Willie Green
Why do goldfish die?

They actually commit suicide because they are bored.

11 posted on 02/17/2003 7:58:13 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: Willie Green
This article is pretty much accurate, but I positively loathe keeping goldfish in an aquarium. They are hardier than most tropical fish, and if you don't buy the $1.19 specials they aren't inbred or sickly.

But they are FILTHY! Goldfish actually seem to excrete more than they eat . . . within a day or so there will be nasty tubular-shaped goldfish deposits all over the place. They clog filters, especially the undergravel ones, and you have to wash their gravel frequently. They'll also tear up any plants you put in the aquarium.

Goldfish belong in an outdoor pond where the fish by-products are spread out over a larger area and you don't have to stare at it all day. Dig it deep enough and put water lilies and other aquatic plants in pots on the bottom, and you'll never be bothered by goldfish poop. (Dig a shallow inclined beach on one end of your pond and decorate it with washed and dried seaweed in the spring, and you may get lots of little baby goldfish too!)

12 posted on 02/17/2003 7:58:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . I prefer small tropicals)
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To: friendly
I must have hit the wrong button.

Is this Zoo Parade.com?

13 posted on 02/17/2003 7:59:27 PM PST by JimVT
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To: Think free or die
Our goldfish really don't do well when herons and raccoons pull them out of the pond for a closer look.

Easy cure: chickenwire over the pond, stapled down around the edges with BIG cable nails. If you get black chickenwire and keep it close to the water surface, you'll never see it. (My parents live in coastal Georgia, and it's not just 'coons and Great Blues, it's the darned gators.)

14 posted on 02/17/2003 8:00:42 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . I prefer small tropicals)
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To: Willie Green
Why do goldfish die??

Aw...now you did it. I won't sleep at all tonite!!

15 posted on 02/17/2003 8:01:33 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (God Bless the arsenal of liberty.)
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To: Tench_Coxe
An easier way to prevent the worries of senseless goldfish deaths is to put an Oscar in the tank.

Oh, you mean "One of those cute little orange and black fishies."

Sure do grow fast, don't they? A friend of mine once had an Oscar that ate another Oscar that was about the same size. We never did figure out how he did it.

16 posted on 02/17/2003 8:02:29 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ( . . . I prefer small tropicals - I REALLY prefer small tropicals to Oscars.)
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To: Willie Green
I had some baitfish goldfish as a kid put them in a tank and the suckers would never die. I swear they lived for years and i rarely cleaned the tank. They got to be pretty big too. I think they were mutant.
17 posted on 02/17/2003 8:06:06 PM PST by Noslrac
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To: Willie Green
I dug a 150 gallon pond in my yard last spring. It's about 2ft deep. I stocked it with plants tad poles and bought 10 feeder goldfish for $1.00. 6 died in the first week and I have 4 left and my pond has froze over this winter. I went out there 2 days ago and they are thriving as ever and getting pretty big. They have also changed colors. They all had black in them when I bought them, and they are solid gold now. They don't eat in the winter either.

I don't know what makes them die. I never give them tap water, I catch rain in buckets and change it out when I can and I don't change but 30% of it at a time. Gonna get some koi in the spring.
18 posted on 02/17/2003 8:06:14 PM PST by meanie monster (hooked on phonics werked for me.)
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To: Willie Green
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/845670/posts
WHY DO SALMON DIE? Is it just coincidence that these two threads were started on the same day? :)
19 posted on 02/17/2003 8:08:00 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Willie Green
Thet tried to hide weapons of mass destruction from the (pansey) U.N. but the USA showed the light.
20 posted on 02/17/2003 8:09:50 PM PST by greydog
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