Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

[Admin Moderator]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
4. Official chapter announcements

Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)

[Alice in Wonderland]

Here's an Anti-WOD post from Jim Robinson:

"There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that authorizes the federal government to wage war against the citizens of the United States, no matter how well-meaning the intent. The Bill of Rights means just as much today, as it did on the day it was written. And its protections are just as valid and just as important to freedom today, as they were to our Founders two hundred years ago. The danger of the drug war is that it erodes away those rights. Once the fourth amendment is meaningless, it's just that much easier to erode away the first and then the second, etc. Soon we'll have no rights at all. " Jim Robinson, 5/9/01

[MrLeRoy]

remove the consequence (the laws)

So it's your understanding that the only consequences of drug use are imposed by law? Did you not read that Rolling Stone story you've been touting?

[CWOJackson]

Several times...and it's very apparent you never have. Like I said, even Rolling Stone gets it.

Note that for your victory party also.

[tacticalogic]

BINGO!

It's nothing new. The clams used to do it to newsgroups they didn't want anyone to read.

[jayef]

I'm wondering what the whole Nevada thing has to do with this debate. If your point is that the majority of Nevada's citizens didn't vote to decriminalize possessing 3oz of grass, then your point is valid. Beyond that, what does this say about the War on Drugs? You are aware that Nevada is one among several states that have decriminalized possession of marijuana, aren't you?

[MrLeRoy]

Several times

Then why did you equate "the consequences" and "the laws," artless dodger?

[CWOJackson]

"...what does this say about the War on Drugs?"

Just remarking on that brilliant victory of yours in Nevada. Millions of dollars worth the effort.

[CWOJackson]

Round and round she goes, no one knows where the circular logic will go.

[jayef]

Uh, marijuana possession is decriminalized in Nevada. As I told you before, I don't live in Nevada.

[robertpaulsen]

"excepting only the greatest of dangers to the nation"

Which was when it was really needed! You cut the government slack at the oddest times.

[CWOJackson]

Neither did most of the volunteers. Most came from California...go figure. They just knew the time was right to strike in Nevada. Surely you followed ALL the progress posts here in FR. Nevada was going to be the win that changed the tide of the WoD. The champaign was on ice.

Now suddenly no one wants to talk about it. It's not important. What does it have to do with the WoD?

[Admin Moderator]

Step one, ask nicely. If people don't comply when they are treated as adults to a reasonable request, then maybe it is time for step two. But I don't mind if they get it out of their system one last time here. When I posted a request for people to stop abusing the keywords, they posted hundreds of keywords to that thread... but keyword abuse has dropped off considerably after that.

Hopefully something similar will happen here. But if not, those who simply don't get it will have provided one more bit of evidence that they don't care at all about the forum or its guidelines. When that evidence is overwhelming, then...

[Timesink]

You aren't.

As far as I know, only two people even know I left. And you're one of the two. :) When you've been actively posting for 2 1/2 years and still have about as many acquaintances and friendships as a day-old newbie, it's just time to take the hint and go.

I have no idea what happened, but I am certain you can work things out

See post 277. That's what happened. I made the mistake of reporting personal attack abuse against me by a Protected Freeper. Her personal attack remains live. I got suspended.

[toothless]

'TOOTHLESSLUVSDRUGS'

I would make it my tagline if I could find the box.

[Timesink]

Truth be told, you could probably sample the WoD threads from the last year, and programatically create whole new threads from archived posts, and no one would notice.

I certainly wouldn't. WoD threads bore me to tears.

[dalebert]

I thought the NEA should have to pay for teachers to be off since the protest would benefit NEA. Why is no one upset about this?

[MrLeRoy]

Thanks for the display of rank cowardice.

[Dane]

I'm wondering what the whole Nevada thing has to do with this debate

Sorry to but into your and CWO's conversation, but it has alot to do with the debate.

The referendum to basically legaize pot in a state that usually turns a blind eye to vices such as prostitution and gambling(although prostitution is illegal in Nevada's most populous county, Clarke) is a big eye opener.

The defeat of the Nevada referendum basically states that even in a state that has a city which proudly calls itself "sin city"(Las Vegas) that pot is not accepted and has an amount of decorum.

JMO, but they rejected it so that pot heads would flood the state of Nevada and become blackjack dealers.

"Dude, your 16 beats my 21", here take all these chips, dude.

[CWOJackson]

Oh my...I've been called a coward by you. I'm sure going to loose a lot of sleep over that. Why...YAWN. I'll probably...YAWN.

I will cede to the wishes of the Admin Moderator now and go take a nap...I'm suddenly very tired. Now please run around beating your chest...I just couldn't stick around after that coward comment, I must run in fear.

[cinFLA]

Taking your logic one step further. We should do nothing about SH and UBL. Way to go~