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Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/13/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

  1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
  2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
  3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
  4. Official chapter announcements
Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

  1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
  2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
  3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)


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To: FoxGirl
Yeah, can't we all get along?

Did anyone ping Rodney King?

181 posted on 02/13/2003 11:10:20 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: Willie Green; Admin Moderator
We don't necessarily need Lithuania or Estonia on the list

However, I do insist on Latvia.

182 posted on 02/13/2003 11:10:32 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Dull?

Not at all. The wife makes great coffee. Very stimulating actually. Or are you referring to your gains in the WoD? Yep, now that is dull.

183 posted on 02/13/2003 11:11:06 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: robertpaulsen; Peach
What is a WoD?

It is a war conducted by FedGov (primarily) and directed against millions of subversive Americans who have the temerity to think THEY are the owners of their own lives and choose to ingest intoxicants not on the approved list. It is cheered on by a mindless but vocal minority who have not troubled themselves to read the Constitution and find out that it does NOT provide for a National Daddy for any reason.

184 posted on 02/13/2003 11:12:06 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: toothless
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."

Good quote BUMP!

A Freeper keeper.

185 posted on 02/13/2003 11:14:34 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: jayef
Depends on how you define utter failure.

The make pot legal effort in Nevada; millions of dollars, billboards, TV ads, thousands of volunteers...now the was an UTTER FAILURE.

LOL! In a state where every other sin and vice is legal and celebrated 24/7...utter and complete failure.

I did notice in the newspaper that three more drug dealers are off the streets which is far from failure.

186 posted on 02/13/2003 11:14:56 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
For the Love of God and mankind everywhere, don't ever quit your day job.
187 posted on 02/13/2003 11:15:23 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Don't worry about that...I get far too much job satisfaction.
188 posted on 02/13/2003 11:16:21 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
I did notice in the newspaper that three more drug dealers are off the streets which is far from failure.

So the goal of the War On Some Drugs is to make work for corrections staff?

189 posted on 02/13/2003 11:18:12 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: CWOJackson
What, exactly, do you do for a living?
190 posted on 02/13/2003 11:18:21 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: RabidBartender
Close our borders!

You are nothing but a raving paleocon, anti-semitic Buchananite. ;)
191 posted on 02/13/2003 11:18:24 AM PST by jmc813 (Do tigers sleep in lily patches? Do rhinos run from thunder?)
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To: jmc813; RabidBartender
You are nothing but a raving paleocon, anti-semitic Buchananite. ;)

Hey! There's a thread for that stuff!

192 posted on 02/13/2003 11:21:13 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Roscoe
Every WOD thread goes the same way. You present the law and the facts, the other side responds with falsehoods and flames.

You left out the part where you post the Commerce Clause with certain parts in boldface.
193 posted on 02/13/2003 11:22:04 AM PST by jmc813 (Do tigers sleep in lily patches? Do rhinos run from thunder?)
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To: CWOJackson
Hmmm ... Prozac, Ritalan, etc, etc, etc ae not dope, then? For while the "Temperance Movement" such as you are in goes against one drug, elixir, herb, brew, etc., other ones do fill the breach, to the same or worse negative effects those that Temperance Movement singles out

BTW -- I cannot reccommend more strongly against anyone even trying -- one time -- cocaine or heroin for recreational, mood-enhancing, performance enhancing, or "meditative" purposes. A good number of people who do so WILL have their lifes ruined, and NOT by the police and drug cops -- by their own addiction and craving, which can happen from only one use.

194 posted on 02/13/2003 11:22:28 AM PST by bvw
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To: MrLeRoy
Perceptions again, all boils down to perceptions.

Our region has a problem with those freedom fighting meth labs. Heck even Rolling Stone had a hard hitting article on it last month. Rolling Stone isn't exactly your typical jack booted thug fan mag.

For me the correstions staff is incidental to the meth making freedom fighters...I can see that might confuse you.

195 posted on 02/13/2003 11:22:38 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Houmatt
And calling for more government programs IS a conservative concept? I thought Conservatism was akin to Constitutionalism: a call to REDUCE FedGov to its Constitutional limits. Which is what ending the INSANE WoSD is about: moving the fight to the several SOVEREIGN States. Got a problem with that? If so, you are hardly Conservative.
196 posted on 02/13/2003 11:22:50 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: Admin Moderator
Crrrrrry Meeee a Riiiiver....
197 posted on 02/13/2003 11:24:07 AM PST by Windsong
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To: bvw
Hmmmm, prescription drugs and illegal drugs. Hmmm. Iz there a difference?
198 posted on 02/13/2003 11:26:31 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
For me the correstions staff is incidental to the meth making freedom fighters

Do you have any reason to believe that there's any less meth on the streets because corrections has three more guests?

199 posted on 02/13/2003 11:28:03 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: CWOJackson
Hmmmm, prescription drugs and illegal drugs. Hmmm. Iz there a difference?

Noelle Bush doesn't think so. Neither do at least two Boston cops.

200 posted on 02/13/2003 11:28:09 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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