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Powell Makes Iraq Case With Photos, Tapes
AP ^ | February 5, 2003 | BARRY SCHWEID

Posted on 02/05/2003 9:28:24 AM PST by Indy Pendance

UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Secretary of State Colin Powell, methodically making his case that Iraq had defied all demands that it disarm, presented tape recordings, satellite photos and informant statements Wednesday that he said constituted "irrefutable and undeniable" evidence that Saddam Hussein is concealing weapons of mass destruction.

"Clearly, Saddam will stop at nothing until something stops him," Powell told a skeptical U.N. Security Council, saying Baghdad's denials constitute a "web of lies."

Three months after Iraq pledged that it would disarm, Powell presented his evidence in an appearance that was televised live around the world. The Council members - joined by Iraq's U.N. ambassador - sat around a large circular table with Powell and listened attentively.

Of the 15 Council members, only the United States and Britain have voiced support for forcibly disarming Saddam.

Tang Jiaxuan, China's foreign minister, said immediately after Powell's presentation that the work of the weapons inspectors should continue. "As long as there is still the slightest hope for political settlement, we should exert our utmost effort to achieve that," he said.

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov agreed. While saying he had listened closely to Powell's presentation, he said he believed more study and analysis was needed of the new evidence presented by the United States. Meanwhile, inspections "must be continued," he said.

Coming to Powell's defense, British Foreign Minister Jack Straw said the secretary made a "most powerful" case. Saddam is "gambling that we will lose our nerve rather than enforce our will," Straw said. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov

In a more than hour-long presentation, Powell also detailed the U.S. claims that Baghdad and al-Qaida operatives are working together and that some followers of a senior lieutenant of Osama bin Laden are currently in the Iraqi capital, with the approval of Saddam.

Saddam, in an interview broadcast Tuesday in London, denied his government has a relationship with the al-Qaida or has weapons of mass destruction. He said it would be impossible to hide such arms.

In his presentation, Powell:

-Asserted that Iraq "bulldozed and graded to conceal chemical weapons evidence" at the Al Musayyib chemical complex in 2002, and had a series of cargo vehicles and a decontamination vehicle moving around at the site. Powell said that was corroborated by a human source.

-Played an audio tape between Iraqi military officers purportedly discussing hiding prohibited vehicles form weapons inspectors. He said the tape was an intercepted conversation between officers in Saddam's Republican Guard.

The voices were discussing a modified vehicle one of them had that was made by an Iraqi company, which Powell said was a weapons manufacturer.

"We have this modified vehicle," one of them said as the two discussed a pending visit by a U.N. weapons inspector.

"I'm worried you all have something left," the second voice says.

"We evacuated everything. We don't have anything left," the other replies.

-Cited informants as saying that Iraqis are dispersing rockets armed with biological weapons in western Iraq.

-Presented declassified satellite pictures that he said were 15 munitions bunkers. Powell said four of them had active chemical munitions inside.

-Said Iraqi informants claim that Iraq has 18 trucks that it uses as mobile biological weapons labs.

-Played a tape recording of an intercepted conversation between two commanders in the Republican Guard. Powell said they discussed removing a reference to nerve agents from written instructions.

Powell presented his case in a rapid-fire delivery, moving from tape recordings to photos and other evidence without pause.

He said his case was persuasive that Iraq is hiding its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs and missile activity and was deliberately misleading inspectors. "I believe this conclusion is irrefutable and undeniable," he said.

"The issue before us is not how much time we are willing to give the inspectors to be frustrated by Iraqi obstruction, but how much longer are we willing to put up with Iraq's noncompliance before we as a Council, we as the United Nations say: `Enough. Enough.' "

Most U.S. allies, including France and Germany, want more time for U.N. weapons inspectors to do their work in Iraq. But Bush and his top national security aides have said repeatedly that the United States - with or without its allies - will forcibly disarm Iraq if it does not immediately comply with U.N. resolutions requiring it to rid itself of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

Five members of the council hold veto power: the United States, Britain, France, Russia and China.

As he opened his presentation, Powell reminded the Council that it had voted unanimously last Nov. 8 for a resolution - U.N. Resolution 1441 - that "gave Iraq one last chance to come into compliance or to face serious consequences."

"No Council member present...had any illusion...what serious consequences meant," he said.

Following a White House breakfast that Bush had with congressional leaders in advance of Powell's presentation, Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware said: "If I had this evidence before a jury that was an unbiased jury, I could get a conviction."

But Biden, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, said "we're talking about a different stage. (Powell) has a tougher jury and there is a lot of skepticism that exists in the international community."


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1 posted on 02/05/2003 9:28:24 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Powell did a superb job.

They, also, did a great job downplaying this speech. There were "smoking guns" throughout!

I don't know about anyone else but, after viewing the fastest 90 minutes of my life, I'm worn out!

2 posted on 02/05/2003 9:32:07 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: Indy Pendance
But Biden, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, said "we're talking about a different stage. (Powell) has a tougher jury and there is a lot of skepticism that exists in the international community."

there is a lot of skepticism brainlessness that exists in the international community.

3 posted on 02/05/2003 9:32:22 AM PST by syriacus (Those who attempt to cool the earth would bring freezing death to the poor and homeless)
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To: Indy Pendance
>>"As long as there is still the slightest hope for political settlement, we should exert our utmost effort to achieve that," he said.<<

He is absolutely correct! That is why we should have already attacked.
4 posted on 02/05/2003 9:32:39 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Indy Pendance
BUMP
5 posted on 02/05/2003 9:32:42 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: *war_list
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6 posted on 02/05/2003 9:33:43 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: TLBSHOW
BLOW 'EM TO HELL, BUMP!
7 posted on 02/05/2003 9:34:40 AM PST by Boot Hill
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To: dixiechick2000
I watched it too. Powell made a most compelling case IMHO.
8 posted on 02/05/2003 9:39:18 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: dixiechick2000
Shoot! Me at work. No television. Can't find a radio station that was playing Powell. I feel in slow-mo compared to you. I have to wait hours to see a live presentation of his talk. I have been reading posts for about an hour trying to keep up with what Powell was saying, etc.

you know of course that there are going to be many who still can't see the smoking gun. They are going to say, how do we know those photos, .......
9 posted on 02/05/2003 9:40:31 AM PST by beachn4fun (We have no claim to share in the glory of our ancestors unless we strive to resemble them - Moliere)
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To: Indy Pendance
Powell did a great job, but of course France is still saying 'wait'. After hearing Camaroon and France, I turned the radio off. Didn't need to hear Germany.
10 posted on 02/05/2003 9:41:46 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Indy Pendance
United States - with or without its allies - will forcibly disarm Iraq if it does not immediately comply with U.N. resolutions requiring it to rid itself of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

Bump

11 posted on 02/05/2003 9:42:16 AM PST by AndrewC (Darwininians want it their way no matter how much like spaghetti they appear.)
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To: beachn4fun
Ditto. I have been browsing from time to time when I get a free minute, but when about 100 posts every 5 minutes, I quickly got left behind. From what I understand, it was real convincing for those few who were on the fence. There will always be those anti-war folks who would shout 'give peace a chance' while Saddam himself is raping and killing their family members in front of their faces. From a little browsing over at DU, some are actually seeing the light, and getting flamed for it from all sides. I guess there is hope for some of them yet.
12 posted on 02/05/2003 9:46:43 AM PST by cdefreese
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To: syriacus
I keep remembering that old Japanese proverb about people being able to stand in front of a door and say, "what door?"

They know.

13 posted on 02/05/2003 9:51:06 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Richard Kimball
IMHO Powell did very well. Diane Fienstien made remarks immediately afterward on NBC. She all but said she is convinced, but still sits on the fence. Gosh, she makes me sick.
14 posted on 02/05/2003 9:58:44 AM PST by yellowroses (a Yankee in Texas)
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To: cdefreese
Have you seen the thread for the transcript on MSNBC? I've been reading what Powell said there. But it is long.
15 posted on 02/05/2003 10:03:13 AM PST by beachn4fun (We have no claim to share in the glory of our ancestors unless we strive to resemble them - Moliere)
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To: Fred Mertz
Agreed!
16 posted on 02/05/2003 10:05:02 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: beachn4fun
Be prepared to be amazed.

"you know of course that there are going to be many who still can't see the smoking gun. They are going to say, how do we know those photos, ......."

Take a trip over to DU. That's exactly what they are saying.

17 posted on 02/05/2003 10:07:00 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: Indy Pendance
I am utterly disappointed. If that was the best that this administration can muster in order to justify an invasion that risks the lives and fortunes of this great country, then it becomes glaringly obvious that there simply isn't much there. North Korea has nukes and delivery systems, but we want dialogue with them. One can look around the world and see equally or even more dangerous regimes, but the fact is that they don't sit on the oil reserves that Iraq does. If a taped phone call of two idiots talking about clearing out a field of any ammo they could get in trouble for constitutes a clear and present threat to this nation, it's a sad day indeed. Long live the Republic.
18 posted on 02/05/2003 10:16:27 AM PST by abraxas_sandiego
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To: dixiechick2000
This is a perfect example of a loss being a win for the anti-American socialists. When Clinton gets caught with his hand in the monica jar (sorry) or faking a need to bomb Iraq to distract from the, ahem, 'chocolate' all over his face, it corrupts the confidence and believability in anything our government does. It is like that emperor not wearing clothes thing, only those people no longer believe/trust when they are seeing that he is. And the rest of them just hate Bush/America and refuse see it.
19 posted on 02/05/2003 10:20:44 AM PST by My back yard (God Bless Bush and God Bless America)
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To: abraxas_sandiego
"......North Korea has nukes and delivery systems, but we want dialogue with them. One can look around the world and see equally or even more dangerous regimes, but the fact is that they don't sit on the oil reserves that Iraq does......"

North Korea has never used WMD on any other country, and has never used them on their own people. Iraq has used chemical weapons on both the Iranians during Iran-Iraq war, and has used them on the Iraqi Kurds. If I remember correctly from a post here on FR, there was one incident when Iraqs use of a chemical weapon killed many thousands instantly. There were pictures of the dead in the street following the attack.

These facts alone make Iraq a higher priority target.

20 posted on 02/05/2003 10:32:10 AM PST by power2
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