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NASA Press Conference LIVE THREAD
Fox, CNN, networks, NASA TV | February 2, 2003 | NASA

Posted on 02/02/2003 2:00:17 PM PST by snopercod

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nasa; sts107
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To: The Great Satan
WOW! Remains of all the astronauts. Rest in peace, brave souls!
321 posted on 02/02/2003 3:36:24 PM PST by djf
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To: All
Blonde reporter asking about wiring "sparking".

NASA says "not an issue".

Someone asking about ameteur video. 'Bout time!

322 posted on 02/02/2003 3:36:26 PM PST by snopercod
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To: _Jim
In certain respects they did think it was a problem prior to this. Because they had a bunch of test done to try and find out why the new formula Freon=less foam was peeling.

They were not even clear on whether or not it was ascent safe.

But they declared it was not a flight saftey issue.

I suspect it was.

NEWS RELEASE
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Air Force Materiel Command

Office of Public Affairs
Arnold Engineering Development Center
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Writer:  Danette Duncan
Date: March 19, 1999
Release # 99-041
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AEDC Performs Shuttle Materials Test for NASA/Lockheed Martin

ARNOLD AFB, Tenn.—Arnold Engineering Development Center is assisting the National Aeronautics Space Administration with improvements in existing Space Shuttle materials.

According to NASA, during several previous Space Shuttle flights, including the shuttle launched Nov. 29, 1998, the shuttle external tank experienced a significant loss of foam from the intertank. The material lost caused damage to the thermal protection high-temperature tiles on the lower surface of the shuttle orbiter. The loss of external tank foam material and subsequent damage to reentry tiles is a concern because it causes tile replacement costs to significantly increase, however, it is not a flight safety issue. As a result, NASA-Marshall Space Flight Center selected AEDC to perform flight hardware materials tests on the shuttle’s external tank panels in the center’s von Karman Facility Supersonic Tunnel A. The purpose was to establish the cause of failure for the tank thermal protection materials at specified simulated flight conditions. "NASA chose AEDC due to its technical expertise and historical program successes," Steve Holmes, a NASA-MSFC technical coordinator, said.

The Lockheed Martin-manufactured non-reusable external tank, the largest element of the Space Shuttle, fuels the shuttle orbiter during powered flight and is comprised of three components—a liquid oxygen tank, a liquid hydrogen tank and an intertank assembly that connects the two propellant tanks. At the full capacity of 528,600 gallons of propellant, the external tank weighs 1.6 million pounds. The tank is covered with a multi-layered, spray-on foam insulation that provides thermal insulation for the tank against the extreme internal and external temperatures generated during prelaunch, launch and flight.

Wayne Hawkins, Sverdrup project engineer, explained the foam system is exposed to multiple forces, causing difficulty in determining the actual failure of the thermal protection system. "Multiple forces act on the foam system," Hawkins said. "The environmental factors include thermal protection system cell expansion, aerodynamic loading, highly variable local flow conditions, oscillating shocks, vibration, temperature and main external tank substrate flexure."

Although NASA and other facilities have performed a number of tests in an attempt to define the underlying root cause of this foam loss, they were not successful. At one time, the center’s 4-foot and 16-foot transonic aerodynamic wind tunnels were possibilities for the test, but Tunnel A’s ability to closely duplicate flight conditions and control both ambient pressure and test sample immersion time made it the facility of choice. Tunnel A is a continuous flow-variable density wind tunnel with an automatically driven flexible-plate nozzle and a 40- by 40-inch test section and can cover the Mach number range of 1.5 to 5.5.

"The ideal success for the test is the generation of foam loss on a consistent basis with simulated flight conditions," Hawkins said.

Although the AEDC Tunnel A tests did not replicate the in-flight failures, they did provide detailed measurements to better understand the flight environment and fundamental failure mode. From these tests, NASA determined the failure is caused principally by foam cell expansion due to external heating at approximately Mach 4 combined with pressure change and aerodynamic shear. Specialized miniature shear gages and other instrumentation were installed during the test to measure these forces. The customer and sponsor were pleased with the AEDC test results. "No other facility can test with articles/models as large as AEDC with conditions that can match flight," Holmes said.

323 posted on 02/02/2003 3:36:31 PM PST by Jael
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To: Fitzcarraldo
They would have had warning that a hatch or wheel well door was open.
324 posted on 02/02/2003 3:36:37 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: sonofatpatcher2
XIII is 13

http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/numbers.html
325 posted on 02/02/2003 3:36:46 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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To: codder too
It is quite appropriate to be concerned that the STS is obsolete technology, fatally flawed by design compromises demanded by politicians and their pimp-administrators.

It is quite appropriate to be concerned that there is no in-orbit repair capability, no live rescue capability, and that Columbia could not dock with ISS.

It is not appropriate to broadcast adolescent fantasies about spy satellites, spacewalking without tethers or EMUs, telescopes and nonexistent escape pods.

This was not a movie.

326 posted on 02/02/2003 3:37:06 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Torie
The admiral's job, at the head of a team of military and civilian experts, was to sift all the facts to determine what went wrong on the shuttle, Sean O'Keefe, Nasa's administrator said. There would be no emphasis on any "pet theory or other approach", he said. Every aspect of the fatal flight would be examined.

From the article on the Admiral that has been chosen to lead this investigation!

327 posted on 02/02/2003 3:37:44 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: codder too
Do I smell liability concerns in the government? I read today that the families of the crew of Challenger got $1 million apiece.
328 posted on 02/02/2003 3:37:58 PM PST by aristeides
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To: fooman
Ron is not really a hardware guy. He came to the Space Shuttle Program from Mission Operations. He actually first replaced my ex husband as Orbiter Project Manager then became the Space Shuttle Program Manager. After the Challenger accident, NASA was pushed into putting astronauts and MOD guys into management positions. IMO it was a huge mistake. Dittemore is a decent guy. IMO, he's over his head at the moment, very distraught over this incident but doing his best. He IS knowledgeable but did not grow up within NASA as a hardware guy. Hope that helps...but remember, this is all MY opinion.
329 posted on 02/02/2003 3:38:12 PM PST by Gracey
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To: Karsus
That should have been a private reply. Please ignore.
330 posted on 02/02/2003 3:38:23 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD))
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To: PhiKapMom
_Jim does more damage to his cause then he could ever imagine. He always shows up at times like this to parse the imparsable. Nobody is accusing anybody of anything. A question was raised and _Jim jumps in without knowledge or need. I'd say I don't get it, but then I think _Jim's the one who doesn't.
331 posted on 02/02/2003 3:38:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Judith Anne
future missions already scheduled

Yes, I heard that, but I bet there is more to this. Not everyone at Nasa always agrees. We will know soon enough.

332 posted on 02/02/2003 3:38:49 PM PST by Semper911
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To: Torie
It's a rocket ship, not a bath chair. Of course it's "unsafe." I think the main issue is to determine whether this was an accident or sabotage. We are still aways from having an answer to that -- perhaps we never will. I see no reason why the guy should jump the gun and pretend to know things he cannot know at this point.
333 posted on 02/02/2003 3:38:49 PM PST by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: bvw
Deny deny deny.

EASY for you to say, from where you sit, NEVER having assumed *any* responsibilty for *large* projects, for others, and for other's lives ...

334 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:07 PM PST by _Jim
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To: snopercod
That blonde was Rita Cosby, the woman from Fox that couldn't get the Supreme Court decision right on Florida!
335 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:16 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Jim Noble
This was not a movie.

Excellent post.

336 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:19 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Jim Noble
Well said. Thank you.
337 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:25 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: The Great Satan
They have found remains of all seven astronauts.

Good, that means all the families will have something to bury.

338 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:55 PM PST by aristeides
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To: All
It's over.

Next briefing at 11:30 EST, then 4:30 EST.

Soliciting public to call (281)483.3388 or e-mail columbiaimages@nasa.gov with photograhpic images.

339 posted on 02/02/2003 3:39:59 PM PST by snopercod
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To: Jael
Thank you. I'll check that out.
340 posted on 02/02/2003 3:40:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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