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Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)
Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

Posted on 02/02/2003 7:34:59 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/02/2003 12:51:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[Your attention please. This thread has generated a ton of abuse reports. Some have been from long established freepers. Others have been from relative newbies. Some have been complaining about the thread. Others have been complaining about the complainers.

Throw on top of it the fact that some of the newbies who showed up on this thread happen to be returning bannees, who before being banned were friendly with some of the very people they are bickering with here, and something is striking us as just not right.

If you are interested in the debris photos, this is the thread for it. If not, don't join in this thread. It is not disrespectful to those who died to post pictures of the debris in our opinion. What they show and where they landed may help piece together what killed these brave people.

If you feel that is the wrong decision, we apologize and mean no harm. But please, no more arguing about it on the thread, and no more abuse reports on the matter.

Thanks, AM.]

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)
Sun Feb 2, 1:14 AM ET

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)



A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA (news - web sites) officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)



A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1,10:35 PM ET

A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)


A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center. (Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA (news - web sites) lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center (news - web sites). (Reuters)


Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:15 PM ET

Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:18 PM ET

A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking



Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sat Feb 1, 7:43 PM ET

Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell
Sat Feb 1, 8:52 PM ET

An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA (news - web sites) officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell


A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:25 PM ET

A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:29 PM ET

Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sun Feb 2,10:11 AM ET

Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)
Sat Feb 1, 7:41 PM ET

Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)


A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:23 PM ET

A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


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To: michigander

Bystanders view a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia on highway 84 near Maydell, Texas.

201 posted on 02/02/2003 11:04:52 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: crazykatz

202 posted on 02/02/2003 11:05:57 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: amom
I just watched this repeatedly (not that any additional viewings changed my mind) and it appears that the nose is pointed away from the viewer. Knowing the direction of flight / descent was west to east, the nose appears to be facing south.

What is wrong is the fact that the ceramic surface is not being presented to the relative wind / angle of attack. THIS IS BAD

The side of the shuttle is exposed to the re-entry heat as opposed to the tiled underside. This would account for the loss of sensors in the left wing first. The aircraft was literally burning up on it's left side.

NASA will find this evidence very useful in it's investigation. Perhaps dispelling the prime (albeit premature theory) that the ice or insulation striking the left wing on launch was the culprit.

One caveat- The damage could have taken place on launch and caused the shuttle to lose tiles on re-entry, resulting in heat damage which then caused the shuttle to lose flight control which put the shuttle in the flight attitude we see on the video. The shuttle attitude is 90 degrees to it's flight path, VERY VERY WRONG in light of the surface temperatures encountered on re-entry.



203 posted on 02/02/2003 11:06:17 AM PST by freepersup (Put That Bur qa On ! Put That Bur qa On ! Put That Bur qa On !)
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To: Mark Felton; Thinkin' Gal; Howlin; McGavin999; American in Israel
Here is the URL for the article about the Israeli astronaut.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77256,00.html

204 posted on 02/02/2003 11:06:28 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: Mark Felton
This is a tasteless thread. Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR. Next thing you know, someone will post the skull, burnt torso and other various body parts found. Geesh, it's not like you have the ability to figure out what went wrong by looking at debris. People who DO have the ability to do that don't view it as a sport or entertainment in morbitity. This is a disgrace and hopefully FR will pull this morbid thread.

PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES. HONOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEBRIS. Get your jollies elswhere on debris fascination. You truly are a disgusting individual.

205 posted on 02/02/2003 11:07:05 AM PST by nmh
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To: nmh
The Admin Moderator has already deleted a series of posts like yours complaining about this thread. Stop complaining and DO NOT CLICK ON THE THREAD if you do not wish to see photos of the debris recovery effort.

We are US taxpayers. We have a right to view public photos available widely on the web from news organizations on the cleanup effort. You have a right not to click on this thread.

This thread simply gathers photos from news organizations regarding the cleanup and centralizes them in one place. If you don't like it....do not click on the thread.
206 posted on 02/02/2003 11:11:18 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: nmh
HONOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEBRIS

we are honoring the people.....unfortunately they are not with us anymore. All we have left is the debris.

Putting flowers or a flag next to a piece of metal which once held our friends, family, countrymen, and heros is all we can do. Posting pictures of people guarding over all we have left is a way to share the caring and compassion that brings people together.

207 posted on 02/02/2003 11:12:36 AM PST by ZinGirl
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To: freepersup

208 posted on 02/02/2003 11:13:22 AM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Howlin
Texas should be proud today.

Its hard for an Arkie to say, but yes they should. I am very disappointed that the Federal response does not seem to be providing the Texans with any guidance or information. They are having to come up with a debris recovery plan on a local level on their own it appears.

This really shouldn't be the case. But the Texans are dealing with it effectively as they go along.
209 posted on 02/02/2003 11:14:19 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: TomGuy
This is a tribute worth seeing. I cannot normally look at even road-kill but if we are to know about sacrifice and truth we had better be able to understand what is at stake and what is accomplished and at what cost.

It motivates me to pray assiduously for the families, friends and members of the space exploration community and for the politicos who take this lightly and are willing to support foriegn alien governments but not this scientific endeavor.

Thank you for this thread.
210 posted on 02/02/2003 11:15:35 AM PST by Spirited
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To: Arkinsaw
You know Arkansas would have done just the same.
211 posted on 02/02/2003 11:16:12 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Mark Felton; Howlin; Thinkin' Gal; American in Israel
Thank you so much for posting the picture. It brought tears to my eyes. The article has made mention of it, but did not have the picture.

You are doiing a wonderful job here and should be commended for helping us to know what is happening.

It is good to know that NASA has such nice employees as you and that you are a Freeper.

212 posted on 02/02/2003 11:17:55 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: Mark Felton
You have the support of many here. Do not let the comments of a few short sighted individuals disturb you.
213 posted on 02/02/2003 11:20:05 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Mark Felton

214 posted on 02/02/2003 11:21:45 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Arkinsaw
This is off BBC News - Americas - Remains found among shuttle debris.


Officials stopped to pray after finding human remains.

I believe the person dressed in the blue jumpsuit with the American flag patch is an astronaut. It must have broke his heart to see what was left of his fellow astronaut, along with everyone else on the scene. At least the photographer had the respect to stay away.

215 posted on 02/02/2003 11:22:07 AM PST by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Mark Felton
I'm thinking that a careful investigation will successfully show the cause of this incident, and the correct fix will be applied.
216 posted on 02/02/2003 11:22:44 AM PST by exnavy
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217 posted on 02/02/2003 11:23:38 AM PST by amom
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To: TomGuy; Mark Felton
Thanks for the thread Mark and the post Tom, This picture (post #21) of debris and the red-white-blue ribbons and the red flowers is very touching
218 posted on 02/02/2003 11:24:31 AM PST by apackof2 (Truly slipped the surly bonds of earth, rest in peace brave hearts....God Bless America)
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To: nmh
Reveling in debris found - another new low at FR.

I dare you to point to ONE POST that did that.

219 posted on 02/02/2003 11:25:05 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Spirited
if we are to know about sacrifice and truth we had better be able to understand what is at stake and what is accomplished and at what cost.

An excellent post.

220 posted on 02/02/2003 11:26:20 AM PST by Howlin
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