Posted on 01/23/2003 12:23:16 AM PST by JohnHuang2
Radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh is suggesting liberal backers of abortion are harming their own causes with their support of the right to terminate unborn children.
Rush Limbaugh |
The conservative icon tied remarks on the 30th anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion into news about U.S. population trends specifically, how Census officials now say Hispanics have become the top minority group in America.
Limbaugh wondered aloud how many blacks and women, for instance, would be alive today had it not been for the millions of abortions that have taken place since state restrictions were done away with three decades ago:
If we had these 40 million Americans, let's figure half of them would've found a job by now. ... We're talking 20 million minimum, and look at the kids they would have had ... Look at the family tree from those 40 million, look at how many more taxpayers! We might not have a deficit, we might have a prescription-drug program, we might have Medicare fixed.
Look at the damage these abortions have caused in addition to snuffing out these individual lives half of which were women. And how many were minority? Would this statistic today Hispanics being the No. 1 minority be true today were it not for all these 40 million abortions? There's a price to pay for the decisions you make.
Meanwhile, the Boston Globe published an editorial yesterday, claiming that most young American women were clueless regarding "the meaning of a coat hanger as a symbol of unsafe abortions":
Limbaugh says the editorial shows the current pro-choice movement thinks it's failing because women "don't get it" when a coat hanger is brought up.
"Is this not sick," asked Limbaugh, "to judge the health of a movement on the basis of that? Does that not tell you what this has always been founded on? ... Here's a movement that is proud of the coat-hanger past and is upset that not enough women under 35 understand what it is."
He wondered if abortion-rights activists would now conduct seminars and produce videos to raise awareness and sensitivity regarding those who have had abortions with coat hangers.
Limbaugh also discussed a hypothetical scenario involving homosexuals, and how they would suddenly reverse their pro-choice stance should scientists prove a "gay" gene exists:
Well, you add to this, let's say we discover the gene that says the kid's gonna be gay. How many parents, if they knew before the kid was gonna be born, [that he] was gonna be gay, they would take the pregnancy to term? Well, you don't know but let's say half of them said, "Oh, no, I don't wanna do that to a kid." [Then the] gay community finds out about this. The gay community would do the fastest 180 and become pro-life faster than anybody you've ever seen. ... They'd be so against abortion if it was discovered that you could abort what you knew were gonna be gay babies.
Just how the abortion issue would play in the 2004 election was also a matter of discussion on the air.
The pro-choice movement is getting traditional support from Democratic presidential candidates, who are again looking to codify the Roe v. Wade decision into federal law.
Among the White House hopefuls is Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., who attacked Republicans in the executive and legislative branches looking to restrict access to abortion.
"These people believe that politicians and judges in their wisdom are in a better place to make the decision that can so profoundly affect a woman's life," said Edwards. "They are wrong, they are wrong, they are wrong, and we must stop them, and we will stop them."
Limbaugh responded by saying the reality is the exact opposite of Edwards' contention.
"It's been the position of the liberals all along that it is precisely politicians and judges who should aid in these decisions," Limbaugh said.
"They do think they are in a better position to tell you how you can spend your money or who's in better charge of your money you or them in government. They do believe that judges and politicians because they're elitists have far more common sense when it comes to your life than you do."
The talk host, heard on some 600 stations nationwide, said the whole debate has never even been a crucial factor in the outcome of elections.
"Pro-abortion has never been the slam-dunk political issue everybody thinks it is. It's always been a 50-50 issue. When you get into the internals of all of these polls, when you get down to questions such as 'Should abortion be used as a form of birth control?' it's not even 50-50. It's way way way 'no' to that."
Regarding the pro-choice mantra that laws shouldn't tell women what do with their own bodies, Limbaugh said such restrictions are nothing new.
"We have laws in this country that deny women doing all kinds of things with their body. They can't be prostitutes legally, can't do drugs legally. We tell not just women but all kinds of people what they can and can't do with their bodies."
Looking toward the future, Limbaugh expressed optimism that Americans, perhaps many yet to be born, would reject the pro-choice rhetoric, saying it evinces a cavalier attitude toward life itself.
"Every generation has thought from the beginning of time ... it's living in the 'last days,' ... yet it's never doomed and it's never finished, and it's never over with, and why is that? Well, because there's always a new generation or two that have yet to be born that don't know any of this negative stuff. And they eventually do get born despite the pro-abortion crowd, and they grow up and they decide they want a certain life for themselves that may not include some of all this rotgut that current generations are facing."
Democrats stay out of our wallets. Republicans stay out of our bedrooms.
BUMP
You undertake abortions in your bedroom?
I'd be willing to bet that more women have died from 'legal' abortions than were ever killed by illegal abortions. (roughly 1/3 of all women who enter abortion clinics die as a direct result of the visit, others die later from complications)
Source? Dubious data does not help.
Let's pretend I'm slow and that you have to explain precisely what you mean by this, ok?
He hasn't talked about it, except very rarely, for years now, so I'm glad to see that he's still willing. I hope he does it more.
I won't take that bet:
45 million / 2 = 22.5 million women dead from legal abortion.
HV->I won't take that bet:
HV->45 million / 2 = 22.5 million women dead from legal abortion.
HumanaeVitae got it. Here's the rest of it for you SS and RY:
Thanks for responding. I was wanting to explain this.
JO-> (roughly 1/3 of all women who enter abortion clinics die as a direct result of the visit, others die later from complications)
Assuming for the sake of argument that very few were aborting twins. The odds of a baby being male or female is roughly 50%. (actually I believe the child 50.1% more likely to be male)
So the total number of people who enter a clinic is comprised of 3/4 woman and 1/4 men. (50% mothers, 25% female babies, 25% male babies)
Since the vast majority of the babies are murdered inside, there is an instant 50% mortality rate of which 1/2 are female. So roughly 1/3 of all women who enter an abortion clinic die there and some percentage more die from complications later. If you count abortion induced breast cancer deaths the numbers increase even more.
I fell right into the trap. ;-)
Source? - Logic - Got it.
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