ABORTION MAP OF THE U.S.

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THE ABORTED STATES OF AMERICA

The map above has 17 states blacked out. The population of these states is equal to the 42,000,000+ reported "legal" surgical abortions since 1973. Perhaps this visual perspective helps one to grasp the number of people that are gone, dead—robbed of their God given, constitutional rights to life and liberty.

Each time a person is aborted and robbed of their rights; our rights and very lives become less secure. How many more innocent people will have to suffer horrible painful deaths before the nation accepts the truth that with abortion, we are destroying our country and our future.

Please go to our Pro-Life Education Page , to learn how you can help end this tragedy.

[don-o]

As an obvious defender of child murder, I am sure you have your pat answers for my #24.

Care to share?

Or are you just playing "sniper" tonight?

[Restorer]

Agreed.

However, it is a mistake to deny the legality of a law because you disagree with its morality.

In occupied Europe, during WWII, it was illegal to hide Jews. Legal doesn't mean right.

[firebrand]

We tell everyone what to do when we tell them they can't commit armed robbery--and sometimes no one is even hurt in an armed robbery.

[cpforlife.org]

There is, and HE aint!

[optimistically_conservative]

Yep, sad but true ...

Students Protest Princeton Professor Who Advocates Infanticide
PRINCETON, N.J. -- April 1999 -- More than 100 protesters denounced Princeton University on Saturday for hiring a philosopher whose extreme views include allowing parents to end the lives of their severely disabled infants.

"Nazi Germany did the same thing to the disabled, judging their lives not worth living. We object to that," said John Scaturro, 49, who protested near the Ivy League school along with his wife and young daughter.

University officials stood by the appointment of Peter Singer, a professor whose academic work they say will contribute to scholarship and ethics debates at Princeton.

Singer, a professor at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, was appointed last year to the Ira W. DeCamp Professorship of Bioethics at the university's Center for Human Values. He is to begin work in July.

The 52-year-old academic is widely considered the father of the international animal rights movement yet has argued parents should have the right to euthanize newborn children who have severe handicaps.

In his books, Singer has said that children less than one month old have no human consciousness and do not have the same rights as others.

"Killing a defective infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person," he wrote in one book. "Sometimes it is not wrong at all."

His appointment at Princeton has drawn fierce opposition from pro-life groups, the disabled and others.

Daniel Robert, 51, who uses a wheelchair because of multiple sclerosis, protested while wearing a black T-shirt that said "Not Dead Yet."

"I don't want people killing babies like me or adults like me," Robert said. "We're just as proud to be alive as anyone else. And we have that right."

Many protesters said Singer's hiring gives inappropriate legitimacy to his views.

Princeton spokesman Justin Harmon defended Singer's hiring and suggested that some of his harshest critics have not read his books.

"According to the experts in the field, he is the one of the strongest bioethicists out there," Harmon said. "He's been hired because of the strength of his teaching and his research, not because of any particular point of view he holds for or against any issue."

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Update May, 1999:

Steve Forbes Takes on Princeton's Peter Singer

New Jersey -- Republican presidential candidate Steve Forbes, a member of the board of trustees at Princeton University, will ask that school's president to rescind the appointment of Peter Singer, a controversial bioethicist who advocates killing certain disabled babies within the first month of their lives.

Mr. Singer, 52, who teaches at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, is scheduled to arrive at the university July 1 and will teach as a tenured faculty member in the fall semester. His radical pro-infanticide views, have been the subject of ongoing pro-life criticism and have sparked protests at Princeton, where his opponents are hinting that the school's June 1 outdoor commencement ceremony will not go along quietly.

An Australian, Mr. Singer has been well known in the United States for years as an animal rights advocate. A vegetarian, he argues that ignoring the suffering of animals just because they are not human is a type of prejudice not unlike racism or sexism. "Even an abortion late in pregnancy for the most trivial of reasons is hard to condemn unless we also condemn the slaughter of far more developed forms of life for the taste of their flesh," he wrote.

But it is his theories on the value of human life that have drawn emotional fire, not only abroad but also in this country where he has earned the ominous label of "Professor Death," and has been called "a bigot" against people with disabilities.

Most controversial of his teachings is the suggestion that parents should have the right to kill infants up to 28 days old who have severe disabilities because at that age, he suggests, children don't understand what it means to be alive. Those with serious health and physical concerns may ultimately be burdens on society, and the goal, he asserts, is to eliminate suffering in the world.

"Killing a defective infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person," wrote Mr. Singer, who will fill an endowed professorship at the university's Center for Human Values.

Words like that have drawn the rage of those in the disabled and pro-life communities. They fear a prominent university like Princeton giving credence to his thinking is akin to acceptance of his views.

Disagreeing with Mr. Singer's views are such groups as Princeton Students Against Infanticide, the New Jersey Right to Life organization, and Not Dead Yet, which lobbies for the rights of the disabled. They staged two large and angry protests on campus this spring, their rallies attracting many disabled persons. Some in wheelchairs clutched signs that read, "My Life Is Worth Living."

"This is getting close to Hitler's policies," observed New Jersey police officer John Scaturro, who attended an April 17 protest at Princeton with his wife and child and was interviewed by the National Catholic Register. "He did the same thing in Nazi Germany to the deformed and disabled with the support of academics."

Now, as Mr. Singer's arrival on campus draws near, students and other groups representing disabled persons are calling on wealthy trustees, including the high profile Mr. Forbes who is running for president, and Republican Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee, to use their influence and take a stand against Mr. Singer.

"I don't have any doubt that if Steve Forbes and Bill Frist said we don't want to be a part of this trustee board and they took away their money . . . this decision would be rescinded," said graduate student Christopher Benek, 23, who serves as president of Princeton Students Against Infanticide.

Mr. Frist, a heart transplant surgeon who received his bachelor's degree from Princeton in 1974, recently donated $25 million to fund a new student center at the school, Mr. Benek said.

Mr. Forbes, who received a degree in history from Princeton in 1970 and contributes substantially to the university, lives in New Jersey and has a daughter who currently attends the Ivy League school. He plans to speak with Princeton University President Harold T. Shapiro to voice his opposition to Mr. Singer's tenured appointment at an upcoming private meeting, his spokeswoman Juleanna Glover Weiss said.

"Steve would encourage those students who are protesting to continue those activities in support of Mr. Singer's removal," Mrs. Weiss said.

Mr. Benek said he also is calling on Democratic presidential hopeful Bill Bradley, another famous Princeton trustee, to make his views about Mr. Singer known.

Princeton's Mr. Shapiro, who heads President Clinton's National Bioethics Advisory Commission, writing in a column this spring for the student newspaper, the Daily Princetonian, defended the hire, saying Mr. Singer was internationally revered, the school's top choice, and his ideas, while provocative, would spark a vigorous debate among students. But Mary Jane Owen, a disabled person who serves as director of the National Catholic Office for Persons With Disabilities, says Mr. Singer's hiring was a disservice not only to Princeton but the nation.

Mr. Singer "lacks knowledge and sensitivity about the commonality of human vulnerability and fragility," she said. "Probably, he has never celebrated the personal victories of adults as we learn new ways of compensating for lost functions.

"The American spirit is that we've always admired persons who overcome challenges," said Miss Owen, who is blind, hard of hearing and who uses a wheelchair. "Peter Singer just doesn't get that."

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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke 1770

[rohry]

"And you Fetus People aren't Stalinists??"

That's a pretty good response, Bozo...

How about replying to don-o's question?

"You are going to have to define the moment at which a living human being acquires personhood. Please give your reasons and supporting evidence for your definition."

We are all waiting for your response...

[Servant of the Nine]

We tell everyone what to do when we tell them they can't commit armed robbery--and sometimes no one is even hurt in an armed robbery.

Well, that is the problem isn't it? At least in First Trimester abortions, a majority don't think anyone is hurt either. I won't support abortions of viable fetuses.

So9

[Boot Hill]

JebBush2008 wonders:   "I simply do not understand how there could have been 42,000,000 abortions in the last 30 years if the vast majority of women in America are Pro-Life and Christian."

If 1/3 of American women had only one abortion in their lifetime, that would be 42,000,000 abortions.

--Boot Hill

[Coleus]

Thanks, I didn't know it was introduced but now Bush needs to lead the charge. I forget some of my High School history classes and can't completely remember how an amendment is passed. From what I can recall the Senate has to pass a similiar resolution and the legislators of 35 states must approve it as well, tnen the president signs it into law?

[jwalsh07]

I won't support abortions of viable fetuses.

That's good. Now could you define the term "viable fetus"?

[jwalsh07]

It's a bit more stringent process than that.

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

[freedom4me]

The total population of the 50 largest US cities is approximately 44 million. Last week, I typed the name and population of each of these 50 cities on slips of paper for use in my junior high and high school classes.

I passed out the slips to my students, then each one came to the front of the room, read the city and population total and dropped the slip into a can. (I didn't tell them ahead of time what this exercise was about). After all the slips had been read, I told my students that the number of abortions performed in the USA since 1973 nearly equals the total population of the 50 largest US cities.

You should have seen the looks on their faces. It was a very sobering moment for us all.

[jwalsh07]

Excellent. I am always inspired by viewing tens of thousands of young Americans Rockin for Life in DC. They see the world differently than many of their own parents.

[cpforlife.org]

Excellent!

America (the world) needs more teachers like you! Keep up the great work.

God bless you

[rohry]

"Now could you define the term "viable fetus"?"

No he/she won't because they are selectivly replying to comments on this board. This usually means they have an agenda and don't want to discuss the issues. This "person" (depending on how they define a person) is not going to respond to any of us...

[jwalsh07]

Yeah I know, but as a sinner myself I see it as my duty to try and bring a few watts into their lives. :-}

[don-o]

To: Servant of the Nine

I won't support abortions of viable fetuses.

That's good. Now could you define the term "viable fetus"?

Actually, it is no good at all. The viability criteria is just an arbritrary benchmark made up for child murder to be legalized. It is not realy even a factor today. The child murderes have legal protection, even to the point of stabbing the baby's head as it emerges from the birth canal.

[jwalsh07]

It's good Don because it's an indication that even folk like the SON recognise that the unborn have a right to life.

Our job is to bring them from that position to the one you and I hold but if we can get majorities favoring a ban on abortion at any point we should do just that and continue with the battle from there.

[upcountry miss]

Oh---- It makes perfect sense now. If I was born with, say, a missing toe, for instance, some doctor could determine that I was severely defective at, maybe five months of age, and then legally my life could be terminated. Suuuuuure, makes perfect sense to me.