Posted on 01/14/2003 8:01:56 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder
BTW, I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate where I have said anything remotely resembling this.
Actually, enough of the illegals crossing from Mexico into Cochise County are indeed home invaders, carjackers, sneak thieves, murderers, drug smugglers, and the like that we have a real concern over our personal safety. No brag, just fact.
I think we've found our racist here.
This line was telling as well:
So what if a few Pedros who are American citizens get killed?
Calling Mexicans "Pedros" - who is being condescending here? But then again, all he sees are votes, not people:
On the other hand, if you don't like the idea of her Satanic Majesty, the junior Senatething from New York by way of Illinois and Arkansas in the White House as Supreme Commissar, you better adjust your attitudes because those Mexicans may be the one group who can stop her cold
Considering that Hillary's hubby never won a majority of the vote, BlackElk seems to think that the existing American electorate is incapable of stopping Hillary, who has far more negatives. So he's willing to ignore immigration laws to try and stop here, which puts him in good league with the Clintons, seeing as they did a couple of rush naturalizations of immigrants, many of whom had criminal records...
Of course America is our home. Just like when New York got hit on 9-11 with the terrorist attack. We were all New Yorkers that day. We are suppose to be *UNITED STATES* made up of legal law abiding citizens.
Of course these are home invaders, homeland invaders etc. Call it what you want. It's an invasion of millions of people that have absolutley no respect for our laws, our rules, our borders or our sovereignty.
Now, I will await your answer to the following. Since 76% of the US population is Caucasian, and the GOP receives about 5% of the black vote, virtually none of the feminazi vote, a declining percentage of the higher educated brainwashed vote (at least until reality catches up with them), very little of the anti-WTO vote, a declining percentage of the union vote, less and less of the lavender vote, etc. Some of this is necessary. If you want to see vote drain, just let the GOP abandon its pro-life position and watch a lot of us walk right out.
Question #1: You show me how you put together a winning coalition for gun rights, lower taxes (of the sort that hit people who work with their hands for a living), renewed American morality, and strong national defense (from our actual enemies NOT our neighbors) while stringing the military all along the indefensible Mexican border much less the even longer Canadian border where actual terrorists cross with impunity and not merely people who come from countries of origin of OTHER PEOPLE who are actual terrorists.
Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?
Your wife is a fourth generation Mexican? Aren't you glad her folks came here? Don't you wish others well, too?
I have no problem with them learning English and I bet they will and we ought to encourage it to keep them out of the clutches of ethnic poverty pimps. If you don't like the welfare bill, spread it across the country. That would seem reasonable. Better yet, abolish welfare which used to be the conservative idea as to welfare, but for everyone and not just the Mexicans.
You appear to be arguing from abstracts and history when you talk about 75 years of PRI rule and a draining away of voting blocks from the GOP.
I'm talking reality. 11 tons of trash removed from a National Conservation Area as a result of traffic from illegal aliens, home break-ins, robberies, carjackings, murders, and more misdemeanor harrassment than you can shake a big stick at.
You can continue to philosophize here on the forum, people like the JackelopeBreeder and myself are going to be out here on the frontlines protecting Americans from an invasion of lawless hooligans and worse.
I'm done with you.
She's an American, jack. You seem to have bigger racial issues than those you are condemning here.
Aren't you glad her folks came here?
Actually, many of her ancestors were here long before mine. She's part Chiricahua Apache, part Yaqui and part Maya, among other things.
Don't you wish others well, too?
Yeah, if they come here legally. You are doing your level best to turn this into a racial matter - when this is about trying to get the government to enforce its own laws regarding immigration.
Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?
The answers are actually rather simple, so even you might be able to grasp them. First, build a modest fence along the border, and patrol it. Next, require local law enforcement to report illegals arrested for any reason to the INS. Most importantly, make it very bad for business to hire illegals, and do not allow welfare or social benefits to illegals, to reduce the incentive to come here illegally. And finally, remove politicians from office who promote illegal immigration.
It's about will and reality. I am not against Mexicans coming to this country. But they should wait in line, and follow the law. If we truly need their labor, come up with a legal method to use it, and then spank anyone who does not follow the rules. But the current approach is a joke, and the weasels who try to paint anyone opposed to illegal immigration as racists are propagandists of the first order, who wish to downplay the fact that laws are being broken.
SEE...SEE...Disagreeing with BlackElk is RACIST!!!
Your absurd straw man arguments don't help your case one bit.
Your example is flawed. You have not proven a negative. You have proven the positive that the sun appears to rise in the East. Try this statement; prove the sun cannot rise in the West. Every bit of evidence you can muster to support a negative proof can be disputed by saying that there may be evidence to the contrary, or the circumstances may change.
Suppose the Earth's magnetic poles swap; then your compass would be in error. Suppose the Earth were to reverse its rotation? Suppose everyone decided to arbitrarily call "east" "west" from now on?
Brush up on your elementary logic skills, and you'll be less of a unwitting victim of the politicians and media.
Just do it. The support for this will be overwhelming. And I noticed you didn't say "good neighbors". Neighbors come in all types. Some that are great, some that keep to themselves, and others that have unruly kids that break into your home every you leave and steal all your personal belongings.
Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?
Oh come on. This is so weak. There are thousands of things that can be done on both sides of the borders to eliminate this invasion and massive lawlessness. It has be discussed at length on numerous posts on this forum and elsewhere.
Though you do not pay attention, I have already told you that one of these border looney tune militias has a newsletter previously posted on one of these never-ending threads that attacked Pope John Paul II and the Catholic Church. The trigger was a papal statement in favor of free immigration throughout the world (he had a little personal experience in Poland with Iron Curtains) but the attack was broad. I do not collect this stuff. I read it, judge it and move on. You can believe me or not as you see fit.
SPLC?????? Whazzat?
Read the constitution. This business about borders and immigration is not a constitutional prohibition against the Mexicans entering. The Fifth Amendment say that the federal government must respect rights as attaching to all persons not merely citizens. The Fourteenth Amendment say the same as to states (in case militias or national guard are an issue). Each provides that there will be no deprivation of life, liberty or property of any person without due process of law. A bunch of good ol' boys out in the desert wearing American flag bandannas is NOT due process of law. If the law will not act, well, the law will not act. Run Tancredo against Bush in the 2004 primaries and see how far you get. In fact that is a great idea. As Dubya trounces his backside into the earth, it will make it clear to America's largest and fastest growing minority that the GOP is not the problem.
A while back, we were proud to have another CINO (as surely you would describe him) who said that the one thing we may thank God for is that we are not getting all the government we are paying for. Fellow named Ronald Reagan. Not a paranoid or xenophobic bone in his body.
You don't get to hijack the conservative movement and destroy its name.
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