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To: HiJinx
Just coincidentally, it is a group made up primarily of Mexicans seeking a better life than is available in Mexico after 75 years of rule by the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) which combined communism, gangsterism and a marked proclivity for shooting priests, particularly in its early years. As I recall, a Cardinal was assassinated there a few years before PRI was finally defeated by Vicente Fox.

Now, I will await your answer to the following. Since 76% of the US population is Caucasian, and the GOP receives about 5% of the black vote, virtually none of the feminazi vote, a declining percentage of the higher educated brainwashed vote (at least until reality catches up with them), very little of the anti-WTO vote, a declining percentage of the union vote, less and less of the lavender vote, etc. Some of this is necessary. If you want to see vote drain, just let the GOP abandon its pro-life position and watch a lot of us walk right out.

Question #1: You show me how you put together a winning coalition for gun rights, lower taxes (of the sort that hit people who work with their hands for a living), renewed American morality, and strong national defense (from our actual enemies NOT our neighbors) while stringing the military all along the indefensible Mexican border much less the even longer Canadian border where actual terrorists cross with impunity and not merely people who come from countries of origin of OTHER PEOPLE who are actual terrorists.

Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?

Your wife is a fourth generation Mexican? Aren't you glad her folks came here? Don't you wish others well, too?

I have no problem with them learning English and I bet they will and we ought to encourage it to keep them out of the clutches of ethnic poverty pimps. If you don't like the welfare bill, spread it across the country. That would seem reasonable. Better yet, abolish welfare which used to be the conservative idea as to welfare, but for everyone and not just the Mexicans.

48 posted on 01/14/2003 9:57:08 AM PST by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: BlackElk; JackelopeBreeder; dirtboy
You've mixed responses from myself and dirtboy, I said my son just married a Mexican girl, but that's okay.

You appear to be arguing from abstracts and history when you talk about 75 years of PRI rule and a draining away of voting blocks from the GOP.

I'm talking reality. 11 tons of trash removed from a National Conservation Area as a result of traffic from illegal aliens, home break-ins, robberies, carjackings, murders, and more misdemeanor harrassment than you can shake a big stick at.

You can continue to philosophize here on the forum, people like the JackelopeBreeder and myself are going to be out here on the frontlines protecting Americans from an invasion of lawless hooligans and worse.

I'm done with you.

50 posted on 01/14/2003 10:06:27 AM PST by HiJinx (SFC, USA (Ret))
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To: BlackElk
Your wife is a fourth generation Mexican?

She's an American, jack. You seem to have bigger racial issues than those you are condemning here.

Aren't you glad her folks came here?

Actually, many of her ancestors were here long before mine. She's part Chiricahua Apache, part Yaqui and part Maya, among other things.

Don't you wish others well, too?

Yeah, if they come here legally. You are doing your level best to turn this into a racial matter - when this is about trying to get the government to enforce its own laws regarding immigration.

Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?

The answers are actually rather simple, so even you might be able to grasp them. First, build a modest fence along the border, and patrol it. Next, require local law enforcement to report illegals arrested for any reason to the INS. Most importantly, make it very bad for business to hire illegals, and do not allow welfare or social benefits to illegals, to reduce the incentive to come here illegally. And finally, remove politicians from office who promote illegal immigration.

It's about will and reality. I am not against Mexicans coming to this country. But they should wait in line, and follow the law. If we truly need their labor, come up with a legal method to use it, and then spank anyone who does not follow the rules. But the current approach is a joke, and the weasels who try to paint anyone opposed to illegal immigration as racists are propagandists of the first order, who wish to downplay the fact that laws are being broken.

51 posted on 01/14/2003 10:09:32 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: BlackElk
Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?

Your absurd straw man arguments don't help your case one bit.

54 posted on 01/14/2003 10:13:24 AM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: BlackElk
Question #1: You show me how you put together a winning coalition for gun rights, lower taxes (of the sort that hit people who work with their hands for a living), renewed American morality, and strong national defense (from our actual enemies NOT our neighbors) while stringing the military all along the indefensible Mexican border much less the even longer Canadian border where actual terrorists cross with impunity and not merely people who come from countries of origin of OTHER PEOPLE who are actual terrorists.

Just do it. The support for this will be overwhelming. And I noticed you didn't say "good neighbors". Neighbors come in all types. Some that are great, some that keep to themselves, and others that have unruly kids that break into your home every you leave and steal all your personal belongings.

Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?

Oh come on. This is so weak. There are thousands of things that can be done on both sides of the borders to eliminate this invasion and massive lawlessness. It has be discussed at length on numerous posts on this forum and elsewhere.

56 posted on 01/14/2003 10:15:27 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: BlackElk
Just coincidentally, it is a group made up primarily of Mexicans seeking a better life than is available in Mexico after 75 years of rule by the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI)

...and it really doesn't matter if that better life comes at the expense of the taxpayer. The important thing, in fact the only thing, is that they get theirs.

121 posted on 01/14/2003 12:02:00 PM PST by Pa' fuera
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