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To: BlackElk
Your wife is a fourth generation Mexican?

She's an American, jack. You seem to have bigger racial issues than those you are condemning here.

Aren't you glad her folks came here?

Actually, many of her ancestors were here long before mine. She's part Chiricahua Apache, part Yaqui and part Maya, among other things.

Don't you wish others well, too?

Yeah, if they come here legally. You are doing your level best to turn this into a racial matter - when this is about trying to get the government to enforce its own laws regarding immigration.

Question #2: Shall we build an iron curtain around America? Lay a radioactive cobalt strip along each border (they may cross but they won't live long)? Use air patrols and strafing? Just waht, other than Bubba times 200 is your plan for sealing the border?

The answers are actually rather simple, so even you might be able to grasp them. First, build a modest fence along the border, and patrol it. Next, require local law enforcement to report illegals arrested for any reason to the INS. Most importantly, make it very bad for business to hire illegals, and do not allow welfare or social benefits to illegals, to reduce the incentive to come here illegally. And finally, remove politicians from office who promote illegal immigration.

It's about will and reality. I am not against Mexicans coming to this country. But they should wait in line, and follow the law. If we truly need their labor, come up with a legal method to use it, and then spank anyone who does not follow the rules. But the current approach is a joke, and the weasels who try to paint anyone opposed to illegal immigration as racists are propagandists of the first order, who wish to downplay the fact that laws are being broken.

51 posted on 01/14/2003 10:09:32 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Yes, she is an American and so are those who came here from all those lands including Mexico to renew the American dream. I'm a third generation Irish-American, third generation English-American, third generation Scottish-American (including Scots-Irish) and fifth generation German-American. I normally call myself Irish, English, Scottish and German. Those who know me take for granted that I am American. It's probably the same with your wife unless she has Mexican features and is spotted at a distance by militia not acquainted with her personally. I suspect that you are purposely misconstruing my intent.

If your wife's Apache and Yaqui relatives had a problem with Europeans being here, it might be more understandable than European-Americans getting all worked up over Mexicans crossing over to freedom and prosperity.

How do people come here legally when it is reported that hundreds of thousands of applications to INS are stored for years at a time in Kansas warehouses? If the INS does not obey the law, what are the potential Americans to think?

Somehow, other than the Alien and Sedition Acts which destroyed the Federalist Party that enacted them, we managed without immigration laws until the building of transcontinental railroads brought many Chinese workmen to America. The same folks who were very worried about Rum, Romanism and Rebellion moved into gear and passed Chinese exclusion laws. Totally unconstitutional (See the 5th Amendment) but oh so popular come re-election time. Then, there were laws to resist other Asian immigration. Then in the 1920s, not wanting to mention Jews and Catholics as specific targets, we got immigration quotas favoring the non-Catholic portions of northwest Europe which also had few Jews. More recently, the Demonrats got the inspiration to favor third world immigration through legislation. The Republicans are having the predictable anti-immigration reaction and playing into the Demonrats hands right on schedule.

Your plans don't work. Fences can be cut and you can't afford a patrol big enough to enforce it. You will also have to put fences on the entire Canadian border and the entire Atlantic, Pacific and Gulf waterfronts. Do you have any concept of the expense. I don't speak for anyone else here but I for one have no desire to pay the taxes for a boondoggle of that size and one that would be totally ineffective in any event. Requiring local law enforcement to report "illegals" was prohibited by New York City under, not Demonrats, but under Guiliani because of the high probability of fraud by police shaking them down in return for silence. Punishing businessmen does nothing. Just how are they expected to know who is a citizen and who is not? Forgery of papaers will be a big league business. You cannot take benefits and welfare from the "illegals" under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments as the Courts have repeatedly ruled. That, not your desire to exclude these folks, is the law and the rule of law and the constitution trumps any statute or referendum.

As to removing politicians, we have elections every year, state or local or federal. Take your best shot. Run Tommy Tancredo. Run, Tommy, Run!!!! The results will separate the GOP from the border gangs. Dubya can have his many Mexican relatives campaign against Tommy too. About two years later, people will say: There used to be this guy in Congress from Colorado who actually tried to run against Dubya. What was his name again? Whatever happened to him?

There are laws being broken. I have no desire to downplay that. Sometimes, lawbreaking is no danger to the republic but rather proof of non-tyranny. Do you think the law is being upheld by SCOTUS in favoring and allowing and encouraging the slaughter of 45 million innocent kids?

You may not personally be motivated by racism against Mexicans but if you think that it is absent from the movement with which you associate, I would like to interest you in purchasing, by quit-claim deed, a bridge connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan. Set up a toll bridge and you are set for life. Payment in small unmarked bills cash American only.

Billy the Butcher lives (Gangs of New York) now along the Mexican-American border. Why isn't there this sort of hysteria along the Canadian border where actual terrorists have entered the US?

72 posted on 01/14/2003 10:59:48 AM PST by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey)
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