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To: dirtboy
Tolkien wrote about Middle Earth but that does not mean that Middle Earth is not a fantasy. Some Marxist jacass of a Mexican taxpayer-supported professor at the University of New Mexico can yap about "Atzlan." When he tries to translate that fantasy into reality, we will note why God invented the United States military and that is NOT to be some F Troop border patrol.

Though you do not pay attention, I have already told you that one of these border looney tune militias has a newsletter previously posted on one of these never-ending threads that attacked Pope John Paul II and the Catholic Church. The trigger was a papal statement in favor of free immigration throughout the world (he had a little personal experience in Poland with Iron Curtains) but the attack was broad. I do not collect this stuff. I read it, judge it and move on. You can believe me or not as you see fit.

SPLC?????? Whazzat?

Read the constitution. This business about borders and immigration is not a constitutional prohibition against the Mexicans entering. The Fifth Amendment say that the federal government must respect rights as attaching to all persons not merely citizens. The Fourteenth Amendment say the same as to states (in case militias or national guard are an issue). Each provides that there will be no deprivation of life, liberty or property of any person without due process of law. A bunch of good ol' boys out in the desert wearing American flag bandannas is NOT due process of law. If the law will not act, well, the law will not act. Run Tancredo against Bush in the 2004 primaries and see how far you get. In fact that is a great idea. As Dubya trounces his backside into the earth, it will make it clear to America's largest and fastest growing minority that the GOP is not the problem.

A while back, we were proud to have another CINO (as surely you would describe him) who said that the one thing we may thank God for is that we are not getting all the government we are paying for. Fellow named Ronald Reagan. Not a paranoid or xenophobic bone in his body.

You don't get to hijack the conservative movement and destroy its name.

58 posted on 01/14/2003 10:17:27 AM PST by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: BlackElk
Some Marxist jacass of a Mexican taxpayer-supported professor at the University of New Mexico can yap about "Atzlan."

You said the concept wasn't real. I just proved that it was, so you now try to downplay the presented evidence. Typical, and typically lame.

Though you do not pay attention, I have already told you that one of these border looney tune militias has a newsletter previously posted on one of these never-ending threads that attacked Pope John Paul II and the Catholic Church

Once again, present proof, please - and tie it directly to the groups in question. Your word has about as much credibility here as Clinton's, and for the exact same reason.

Read the constitution. This business about borders and immigration is not a constitutional prohibition against the Mexicans entering.

Legally. LEGALLY. What part of legally do you not understand? I can only assume that you are being this dense on purpose, which only further cements my opinion of you as a completely dishonest person.

61 posted on 01/14/2003 10:23:38 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: BlackElk
You don't get to hijack the conservative movement and destroy its name.

You don't get to abuse language and logic like Clinton and expect us not to respond. The only person you're impressing here is yourself...

62 posted on 01/14/2003 10:24:49 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: BlackElk
""SPLC?????? Whazzat?"

RITFLMAO.....you're SOME lawyer

131 posted on 01/14/2003 12:28:29 PM PST by txdoda
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To: BlackElk
Having not read all the posts to this thread, sorry if these questions have already been asked:
1. Just exactly how many thousands/millions of immigrants should the US take in during a given year? 100,000? 3,000,000? 12,000,000? 26,000,000? 47,000,000? Unlimited?
2. What should be the country allocation criteria, if any?
3. What should be done about the economic difficulties uncontrolled immigration is having on border towns and elsewhere?
4. What about US security regarding terrorist illegal immigrants?
5. Is it racist to address these questions? Why?
Thanks in advance.
332 posted on 01/15/2003 9:13:05 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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