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Tax Protester Told to Stop Giving Advice
Associated Press ^
| Mon, Jan. 13, 2003
| MARC LEVY
Posted on 01/13/2003 1:26:05 PM PST by heyhey
Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:09 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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HARRISBURG, Pa. - A tax protester who allegedly promotes a bogus legal loophole to convince people they owe no taxes was ordered by a federal judge to stop the practice and turn over his clients' records.
The order came Friday in the government's effort to force Thurston Bell of Hanover to stop giving clients allegedly false tax advice and charging large fees for filing tax returns.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: anlper; taxes; taxreform
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posted on
01/13/2003 1:26:05 PM PST
by
heyhey
To: heyhey
So is Bell going to comply with the court order or is he going to jail? The article doesn't say.
3
posted on
01/13/2003 1:29:58 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: heyhey
And if I sell medical or legal advice, whether correct or not, I am in violation of the law; as I am neither a doctor or a lawyer.
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posted on
01/13/2003 1:30:26 PM PST
by
Hodar
To: heyhey
What is section #861, and what band of grifters in the political elite was it meant to exempt. The story may be the guy doing this, but I find the story of section #861 a bit more concerning. I mean we all share equally in the burden of paying taxes don't we???????
5
posted on
01/13/2003 1:31:02 PM PST
by
blackdog
To: *Taxreform
To: heyhey
If you don't pay taxes you do go to jail if caught but the tax protestors are quite correct the 16th wasn't properly ratified.
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posted on
01/13/2003 1:32:16 PM PST
by
weikel
(Mercy to the Guilty is Cruelty to the Innocent)
To: Taxman; ancient_geezer
fyi
To: heyhey
He is right that your wages are exempt and you owe no income tax on them. However, being right about this amoounts to nothing - you will still go to jail. Note that he asked them to show him what was wrong in what he said - rather than respond they said it was "frivolous". He has some specific legal points he is making that are substantiated by the code. They will not respond becasue they can't prove he is wrong. That is his whole point. They feel they don't need to prove anything because they have power and you go to jail if you don't believe.
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posted on
01/13/2003 1:38:45 PM PST
by
artios
To: blackdog
To: artios
Quite right. This order amounts to the judicial branch violating his first amendment rights.
To: artios
They will not respond becasue they can't prove he is wrong. If they can't prove him wrong then that makes him right.
To: weikel
If you don't pay taxes you do go to jail if caught but the tax protestors are quite correct the 16th wasn't properly ratified.If you use the tax protestor's arguments on the rest of the Constitution, then Constitution itself and all of its amendments prior to about 1960 (when Xerox machines became common) were properly ratified.
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posted on
01/13/2003 2:44:39 PM PST
by
Poohbah
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To: blackdog
What is section #861, and what band of grifters in the political elite was it meant to exempt.Nonresident aliens who do not have receive income from any source inside the United States. In other words, if you live in Pakistan, are not a US citizen, and do not receive income from any source within the United States, you don't owe US income taxes.
And that is the totality of Thurston Bell's "strategery." You simply claim that you are a nonresident alien with no income from any source inside the United States.
That's kind of hard to explain when you live in, say, Topeka, Kansas, and own/operate some sort of enterprise in Topeka, where you do your business.
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posted on
01/13/2003 2:51:36 PM PST
by
Poohbah
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To: artios
Bingo. Same old story. The government has bigger guns and being right doesn't afford you any rights...
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posted on
01/13/2003 2:56:03 PM PST
by
ApesForEvolution
((communism is a rash that needs to be scraped off of the planet))
To: artios
Hmmm ... isn't there a conspiracy to deprive others of there civil rights (1st amendment) charge that could theoretically be laid at this judge's feet ?
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posted on
01/13/2003 3:02:47 PM PST
by
Centurion2000
(Darth Crackerhead)
To: aristeides
Thanks! Kind of a dumb claim. Interesting though! You would think the code would rip everyone. Glad to see that Saudi Nationals living here don't need to pay taxes.
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posted on
01/13/2003 3:11:18 PM PST
by
blackdog
To: MosesKnows
If they can't prove him wrong then that makes him right.If you say the planet Pluto is populated by green eye lizards and I am unable to prove you wrong, it does not mean the planet Pluto is populated by green eye lizards.
Whether I agree with what this guy is doing or saying, you statement is incorrect.
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posted on
01/13/2003 3:12:05 PM PST
by
dpa5923
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To: Centurion2000
Hmmm ... isn't there a conspiracy to deprive others of there civil rights (1st amendment) charge that could theoretically be laid at this judge's feet ?He can spout off for free. He's being enjoined from taking money for his advice, because he's a fraud.
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posted on
01/13/2003 3:15:34 PM PST
by
Poohbah
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To: blackdog
Glad to see that Saudi Nationals living here don't need to pay taxes.The only way that happens is if the foreign national (it doesn't just apply to Saudis) is legally nonresident AND the income only comes from outside the US.
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posted on
01/13/2003 3:18:27 PM PST
by
Poohbah
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