Report on Ellen Ratner's "Dead Americans" Comment

special to FreeRepublic ^ | 2 January 2003 | Congressman Billybob (J. Armor, Esq.)

[Congressman Billybob]

On Thursday mornings, I do a half-hour segment on the national radio show, "American Breakfast." I expected Ellen Ratner to come on for the last five minutes of that segment, as she has the last two weeks.

She knows me, and I know her. My feeling is that she was afraid to come on this morning and face the music about her "dead Americans" comment.

To recap for those who just tuned in, last Friday on Neal Cavuto's Show on Fox, the following exchange took place between Ratner and Brenda Buttner, sitting in for Cavuto:

[After a discussion that George Bush would be reelected "unless the economy tanks," Ratner said:

Ratner: Unless he messes up the war -- I hope.

Buttner: You hope?!

Ratner: Well, I don't want him to be reelected.

Here are the three questions I was prepared to ask Ratner when she showed up:

Q: Have you been fired yet from World Net Daily or from Fox News? [Ratner made it clear on "American Breakfast" on Monday that she has no intention of resigning.]

Q: You said on Cavuto's Show you "hope" that President Bush will "mess up the war" and not "be reelected." Since the only way any President can "mess up" any war is to get Americans killed needlessly, how many American deaths do you hope for? 10,000? 30,000?

Q: [Assuming she said "that's old news" or "let's move on"] You say this is "old news." Trent Lott is "old news" because he's apologized and resigned. Patty Murray is "new news" because she's done neither of those. Isn't it your turn to apologize, and resign?

I ask those more computer-adept than me, to post up the links for Roger Ailes, head of Fox News, and Joseph Farrah, head of World Net Daily. Also a link for Neal Cavuto, since this happened on his Show.

Do not bother to send any more e-mail to Ratner herself. Monday on "American Breakfast" she referred to the "hate mail" she is receiving. I know from direct experience with her that every communication not agreeing with her arrogant, far-left ideas, is "hate mail" in her view. So, do not waste time or finger energy sending any more mail to her.

Fox News and World Net Daily have no use for left-wing ideas, generally. They have Ratner on their payrolls as "balance," or an example of what children can grow up to believe if they have typical left-wing backgrounds and educations. But there is an ample supply of such examples, without using Ratner who "hopes" for Americans to be killed so President Bush will not "be reelected."

Please spread the word get on talk radio, and put up the links to FReep Fox and WND and Cavuto so that Ratner will be fired. Ratner is also employed by National People's Radio. But to quote Hillary!, in the "back alleys" of NPR, they agree with Ratner's "death to Americans" comment. So nothing can be accomplished there.

Ratner's multiple employments (not counting her position with Talkers magazine), demonstrate the approach of the average limosine liberal. Talk equality, but grab all the cash you can get from any source. (Witness both Bill Moyers and his son, as discussed on FR in the last few days.)

Well, that's my report on Ratner. I'm sure she checks the Internet, so I doubt she will ever dare go on-air live with me again.

Respectfully Submitted,

Billybob / John

[islander-11]

I just sent Fox News an e-mail requesting that this treasonous rat be called out about her statement. Let Sean Hannity have at her.

Sure makes me feel good to know that some of our tax dollars goes to keeping NPR up and running... barf...

[blackdog]

I watched the segment. Her smug grin when she said that was eerie and telling. IMHO I think she said what most liberals in charge were too disciplined to admit aloud. Ratner is a very sick person. At her age and level of authority, she has to answer for her comments.

My stating so is definately not "Hate Mail".

[Quix]

Not sure why I have this hunch--which could be off the wall--but . . .

Do you or anyone you know have any Marine connections that might be accessed to try and verify doug from upland's narrative about Shrillery throwing coffee in the Marine's face?

You can see the thread at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/811070/posts

I have 0.0% doubt it's true, but it would be wonderful to have any level of confirmation from another source.

[Samurai_Jack]

Oh yes I agree with you here Billybob,

I was watching that segment and this was clearly a severe freudean slip that she tried to cover by being overt about it. She seems to be a victim of her own propoganda. She is unable to seriously consider any other recourse than to hope for and subvert the systems toward (consciously or unwittingly) the deaths of thousands of Americans.

This kind of hunger for ABSOLUTE power is precisely the kind of thing that needs to be trumpeted out to the media outlets and demonstrated in the town squares. It is a signature of the democrat campaigns and smells like they are being pressured by special interest groups to win at any cost, even the lives of american soldiers. This win at any cost attitude is the same shameless arrogance that made a deal with Bush 41 to raise taxes, then stabbed him in the back for breaking his no new taxes pledge, followed by dancing on his political grave to the tune of 'It's the economy stupid'.

I could go on but in the interest of brevety will just say that firing this woman might not be the answer, we should keep her in our employ and parade the villified remains of her destroyed reputation in the streets at the end of a stick until she resigns in shame and ignomy.

ps: Isnt that a Live Nuclear Plant now?

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

It wasn't the loss of young men that caused that RAT to quit. It was commie Walter Crankite coming out publicly against the war that caused Landslide Lyndon to turn tail.

[Congressman Billybob]

Good morning, my friend. You obviously burn the candle at both ends.

Do you have an e-mail link for World Net Daily?

Would you be kind enough to ping the people who have major ping lists, and would be interested in this subject? My gut feeling is that Ratner is on the ropes with Fox and WND right now. Punching her won't do the trick. But punching her bosses might put her down for the count.

As a boxing trainer tells his fighter, "Hit early. Hit often. Hit again until your opponent drops."

I hope my next conversation with Ratner can be quite short, "You got what's coming to you."

Billybob

[Elkiejg]

I expect American attention, personnel and equipment to go East, rather than come home, in order to confront North Korea.

Congressman - we were at a neighborhood gathering New Years Day where a retired Navy officer said that there was a peaceful way to end the N.Korean situation. He said all that needed to be done was to put 25,000 Japanese in military gear and stretch them across the North-South Korean border and both countries would shut up and behave themselves. He claims the Koreans - north and south - are petrified of the Japanese because of what they did to Koreans in years past. I don't know my history well enough, but he was adamant that this would work. Do you have any background knowledge of this?

[Congressman Billybob]

You're right, the NK Nuclear Plant is now "live," unlike the one in Iraq that the Israelis bombed when it was merely under construction. We're later in the game than they were. But the exact same principle applies.

Billybob

[PGalt]

Ellen Ratner...like Patty Murray, like Hillary Clinton, like Bill Clinton, like Osama Bin Laden...is hiding in a cave, surrounded by an elite team of enablers never to be held accountable for her words or her actions.

[RippleFire]

WorldNetDaily contact links are here.

[Timesink]

I ask those more computer-adept than me, to post up the links for Roger Ailes, head of Fox News, and Joseph Farrah, head of World Net Daily. Also a link for Neal Cavuto, since this happened on his Show.

No guarantees, but I believe emails to Fox News employees are of the format Firstname.Lastname@foxnews.com. Don't bother emailing the show addresses (like oreilly@foxnews.com or cavuto@foxnews.com; those are just general dumping grounds for all emails to their shows), tack on the first name.

And never underestimate the power of simply picking up the phone and cold calling. Fox is at 212-301-3000.

[Lil'freeper]

She just wasn't specific enough to go after her with Bobbybill's charges.

Perhaps, but Trent Lott was scuttled for less. After all, Lott never said segregation was groovy; it was just inferred. What's good for the gander should be good for the goose.

[Timesink]

Oh, and Roger Ailes is DEFINITELY roger.ailes@foxnews.com. And he's known for often answering his own mail (maybe always, I don't know).

[benjaminthomas]

She just wasn't specific enough

How specific does she need to be? Isn't it enough that she wants America to fail (in any way)? It is (perhaps not equally, but still) disturbing to hear liberals wishing that the economy would tank, so Bush won't be re-elected. To me this is simply un-American.

[Snardius]

Let's have her explain before we attribute things to her that simply are not there in the text of her statement.

She said Bush would not be reelected if the war in Iraq went badly. She said she doesn't want Bush reelected. At the very least, we can assume she's rooting for Saddam...no? Not unlike a player sitting on the bench rooting for the other team to get so far ahead that he gets a chance to play.