1 posted on
12/30/2002 8:40:55 PM PST by
akash
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Ping !!!
2 posted on
12/30/2002 8:42:47 PM PST by
akash
To: akash
Very good article, I agree 100%
4 posted on
12/30/2002 8:51:16 PM PST by
MJY1288
To: akash
Great article - Thank you for posting it. Hope it contains some modicum of truth.
To: akash
Thanks, this is interesting.
7 posted on
12/30/2002 8:56:43 PM PST by
txhurl
To: akash
Right on target. I was especially struck by this confirmation of why I think we are going into Iraq first:
"The obvious cases are two unrepentant state sponsors of terrorism: the Saudis and Pakistan. The Saudis cant be bucked now because they can throw the world economy in chaos. But let Iraq, which some experts believe may have more reserves than Saudi Arabia, come back on stream and let the Russians get back to Soviet-levels of production. At that point, the Saudi oil weapon disappears."
8 posted on
12/30/2002 9:01:23 PM PST by
Cicero
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14 posted on
12/30/2002 9:17:52 PM PST by
rdb3
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Excellent ant thought provocating article!
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To: akash
This analysis could be an accurate guage of what the Administration is really thinking. But it does not change the likelihood that they are dead wrong about installing mob-democracy in this pan-arabic region. It will not change a thing. They will still adhere to the Koran. They will still oppress all other religions, and women. They will still harbor nothing but hatred for and warfare againt, the West. The basics of the vilifications against Western values have been inculcated too deep. I am not convinced that GWB's theory that the genie of democracy is able to turn these states into modern peaceful republics. Keep in mind, that Hitler came to power in a democratic Weimar Republic. I am, up to a point, willing for GWB to go ahead and try it. But we should be preparing our own people for the possibility of the failure of the scheme....and readying for the worst case scenarios...educating them as to what we really are fighting.
To: akash
Democracy in Iraq, three possible democratic states, with US and Westren Civilization support. This is the crux of opposition to America's war on terror in the Middle East. Approximately a two-thirds majority of countries "representated" at the United Nations do not allow their citizens any democracy and are either communist or run by dictators like the Arab Shieks. All tryants fear freedom and it's spread.
30 posted on
12/30/2002 10:08:46 PM PST by
Jumper
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You guys will want in on this.
Great article. Confirming what most FReepers figured out months ago, of course...
32 posted on
12/30/2002 10:26:13 PM PST by
okie01
To: akash
Excellent article and thanks for posting it.
To: akash
The world will be much safer for Americans and American interests when we establish that those who threaten us, or attack us, can expect three things on a grand scale: pain death impoverishment.
37 posted on
12/30/2002 10:54:04 PM PST by
185JHP
To: akash
A "Grand Strategy," indeed. Thanks!
42 posted on
12/31/2002 12:36:58 AM PST by
Turbodog
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Interesting that it takes a journalist from India to "get it" ..... our American media are too busy dreaming up reasons to bash President Bush to seriously analyze the situation.
43 posted on
12/31/2002 12:48:34 AM PST by
kayak
To: akash; Freee-dame
When Haass visited India, he made it a point to meet a cross-section of Indian Muslim leaders. Why? Because Indian Muslims are the second largest Muslim population in the world and among the poorest. Yet, he said, none of them is a member of Al-Qaeda or its affiliates. "I asked the leaders why this was so," Haas said, "And they said we live in a secular democracy. When we have problems we have alternatives to terrorism."
Third, US officials have quietly hinted that they are of the view that Iraq can be the wedge that will open the Arab world and Iran to the fresh air of representative government.
I guess Freepers are better than most in getting "hints." This strategy was certainly not a secret to me. Reporters in 'respected' media outlets must never have listened to anything that President Bush, Dr Rice, Secretary Powell, etc have said.
At least this writer can see the plan.
44 posted on
12/31/2002 6:11:42 AM PST by
maica
To: akash
HOOVER INSTITUTION
John Lewis Gaddis
John Lewis Gaddis was a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution from 2000 to 2002.
Gaddis is an internationally renowned historian of the cold war. His books on the subject include The United States and the Origins of the Cold War, 19411947 (1972, 2d ed., 2000); Russia, the Soviet Union, and the United States: An Interpretive History (1978, 2d ed., 1990); Strategies of Containment: A Critical Appraisal of Postwar American National Security Policy (1982); The Long Peace: Inquiries into the History of the Cold War (1987); The United States and the End of the Cold War: Reconsiderations, Implications, Provocations (1992); We Now Know: Rethinking Cold War History (1997); and The Landscape of History: How Historians Map the Past (2002).
Gaddis has also taught at Ohio University, the U. S. Naval War College, the University of Helsinki, Princeton University, and Oxford University. During the 20002001 academic year, Gaddis was again at Oxford as the George Eastman Visiting Professor at Balliol College.
Gaddis is on the advisory board of the Cold War International History Project. He served as a consultant on the CNN television documentary "Cold War" and is currently working on a book on a biography of George F. Kennan.
Gaddis received his Ph.D. in history from the University of Texas at Austin.
45 posted on
12/31/2002 6:14:29 AM PST by
maica
To: akash
US grand strategy and IraqYou misspelled "strategery."
57 posted on
12/31/2002 11:13:36 AM PST by
Poohbah
To: akash
Thank you for that posting. We will know when the job is done when the Islamic world embraces participatory government and emancipation of women, and at the same time "educated" opinion in Europe continues to maintain that the Americans are stupid. That sort of hegemony is much more effective than empire - and much longer-lasting.
To: akash
.....A fuzzy plan "turns out, upon closer examination, to be a plan for transforming the entire Muslim Middle East: for bringing it, once and for all, into the modern world......"
This statement is a rehash of my posts for the last year.
It has been stated over and over by guests on Fox news but always ignored by the Fox guys and the majority on Free Republic.
65 posted on
01/02/2003 8:19:31 AM PST by
bert
To: akash
Bump for later
66 posted on
01/02/2003 5:29:02 PM PST by
schu
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